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    I was just wondering which types you think are the most common, and which types you seem to frequently encounter. I also wonder which types you donít come across often. Please know that my thoughts are just based on experience, not statistics. Statistics are valuable, but there are not a lot of statistics in Socionics.

    I find that Si bases are the most common. I always seem to encounter a ton of SEIs and SLIs. ESEs are definitely one of the more common types as well. I also think that ESIs and LSIs are quite common, with ESIs being more common than LSIs. I think that LSEs are also pretty common, but I donít come across a lot of them IME. I come across more SEEs than LSEs in my life. SLEs are pretty rare IMO; I only met a few of them.

    Out of the intuitives, I find Delta NFs to be the most common. Alpha NTs and Beta NFs are rare, but I definitely come across some of them. Gamma NTs are very rare.





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    To be completely honest, I’m not sure enough to say. I don’t get out much, for one. And for another, I think I’d have to study up on socionics a lot and be pretty confident in my typings of people to say, and then maybe I could write a bunch of people down and their types and come up with a number, because I think it’s possible to be prone to bias and selective memory otherwise. Recently my understanding has changed and I think I may have been wrong about a lot of people, so now I’m having to rewrite my complete understanding....and I’m noticing there a lot more gammas and betas than I originally realized. So there’s that. But you could also argue it’s because I’m leaning more on gulenkos system now.

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    It highly depends on where I'm at. If I'm at work, usually at HQ I see an equal smattering of the quadras and at the plants, I see mostly betas and deltas with a few (literally 1 or 2) alphas and slightly more gammas.

    If I'm at a family gathering, it is a sea of deltas

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    In the environment I was raised in I'd say betas.

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    Depends on the setting- in everyday real world settings I see a lot of ESEs/SEEs/SLEs/ESIs/LSEs/SLIs. I stereotypically see a lot of LIIs like in academia or a library or the work place but not so much in say- the laundromat or arcade or grocery store or the gym because their Se polr avoids a lot of places like that. I don't see LIEs much either for some weird reason- tho I know American Society is littered with 'em. I imagine both Se & Si polr would make you avoid a lot of places & stick to your 'home turf' a lot? Te polr too kinda but not as much as those. (other IEIs are kinda rare but I still see them quite a bit along with SEIs)

    I see ILIs from time to time. It's so-so. It seems they prefer just going to school and/or work then home, or the extra places they go to are way different then the extra places I would go to.

    I don't see a lot of LSIs- but when I do- they always carry themselves like they can't decide on whether they want to become a cop or be a criminal & go to prison. (at least the males) They look torn and like they're always internally fighting something inside? (but it's often hot to me) SLEs usually feel a lot more relaxed and less tense (but also boring as hell to me- the way duality usually works.) I usually only really fully appreciate them until way after the fact or I realize it's the best thing I needed but by then it was probably too late. SLE males are often like the stereotypical criminal bad boy type, the porn star type, the generic nice Chad working at Mcdonalds/construction worker type - or just the boring nice dad type.

    ILEs like to be in control of what they are in control of- but I don't see them that often because they don't really like to show up unless they have full and total control IMNSHO. They really dual-seek Si to teach them to be more balanced and in harmony with everything lol. If they don't want control they just wanna be somewhere where they can blend in with other Alphas and laugh and guffaw and be loud a lot.

    LSEs are common enough. They are usually Republican cowboys who hate fags & love rules and authority and/or religion or whatever. ((my obvious conflictor)) yeah not every LSE is going to be like that but - it's pretty common in America.

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    Sorry guys, but SEI is the rarest, most special type. We are a rose among thorns. The brightest bulbs in the sky.

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    In my experience, betas are the most common, with gammas and alphas being pretty commn too. Delta is more uncommon, especially rational deltas. I've met more SLI-IEE than EII-LSE, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Delta is more uncommon, especially rational deltas. I've met more SLI-IEE than EII-LSE, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    Sorry guys, but SEI is the rarest, most special type. We are a rose among thorns. The brightest bulbs in the sky.
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    There is nothing to suppose they are not close to equally spreaded.
    The difference is possible from a point of concrete human which may notice some types better and which has an activity attractive for some types.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Depends where you are. You'll meet different types at a Wisconsin cheese festival than you will at a Hollywood party or a corporate business meeting or wherever.

    Interests and activities are often grouped by club ime (ie more NFs at a poetry slam and more STs at a car show) and workplace environments have different mixes of types based on the individual workplace and the industry.

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    The best shot at trying to figure this out would probably be at a high school. Even housing communities and neighborhoods are bound to attract certain types.

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    Where I am
    Deltas (specifically irrational) and alphas. Followed by gamma, then beta.
    I'd say SFs in general are pretty common. I don't think alpha NTs are all that rare. Or maybe I"m just good at finding them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatte View Post
    Where I am
    Deltas (specifically irrational) and alphas. Followed by gamma, then beta.
    I'd say SFs in general are pretty common. I don't think alpha NTs are all that rare. Or maybe I"m just good at finding them?
    I agree with Betas being *probably* being the rarest quadra. In my experience, I find Beta irrationals to be rarer than Beta rationals. I only met a few IEIs and like 2 SLEs. I have yet to meet a SLE-N or SLE-H. I only met 1 SLE-C and 1 SLE-D.





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    Quote Originally Posted by eiemo View Post
    I agree with Betas being *probably* being the rarest quadra. In my experience, I find Beta irrationals to be rarer than Beta rationals. I only met a few IEIs and like 2 SLEs. I have yet to meet a SLE-N or SLE-H. I only met 1 SLE-C and 1 SLE-D.
    aw. that bodes ill for my finding of duals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliMeat View Post
    The best shot at trying to figure this out would probably be at a high school. Even housing communities and neighborhoods are bound to attract certain types.
    Gotta agree. Be pretty sweet if registering for an email account required an accurate socionics typing.

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    I’m not sure there is much meaningful difference. The only possible trend I can maybe make out is that intuitive types are rarer than sensors. I’ve known many more ESIs than EIIs, SLIs than ILIs, SLEs than ILEs, and so on. Even for duals this seems accurate: more ESE than LII, more LSI than EIE. My theory is that intuitives represent more evolutionary risk since they’re more mentally unstable in certain respects. I could imagine a society of only SLIs functioning; I can’t really say the same of ILIs. Can you imagine?? Or ILEs. Or EIEs. Even XII might appear to be the most temporarily successful of all the intuitive types, but only up until the point we start getting hungry; then we’d get too bitchy to work with each other and collectively starve.
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    In my experience, S-types were five times more plentiful than N-types, F-types were twice more plentiful than T-types, and p-types were slightly more plentiful than j-types so I concluded that XSFps must comprise the biggest group followed closely by XSFjs.

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    Betas are quite common in my experience, some it has to do with being in behavioral control/emotionally disturbed environments since i was 6 years old and psychiatry being a beta institution (although mainly w/ creative function subtypes so not as aristorcratic) and the fact that vast majority of my extended families (maternal and paternal) are mostly beta. Alphas, Gammas, and Deltas less common in my experience.

    Really, the people I know best and the most of are SLE-Ti, ILE-Ti, EIE, LSI-Se, and ESI-Fi and 2 ESI-Se I've spent quite a bit of time with. Only been like 6 IEE I've spent much time with, only one considered me a friend another was my maternal grandmother's younger brother. 4 or 5 IEIs I've spent a lot of time with. Only been like 3 EII I've spent much time with. Only been a few LIE I've spent much time with. Never spent time with anyone I knew to be SEE. Only 1 LII-Ti, he was a professor we couldn't stand each other. Only can remember spending just a little bit of time with just one ILE-Ne right off the top of my head. Seen a few LSE, didn't spend more than say 10 minutes with one, and met the other in passing. Only spent a little bit of time with 3 ESEs. None with anyone I knew to be SEI.

    Types I've spent the most time with: SLE, EIE, ESI-Fi then after those ILE-Ti and finally ESI-Se with more LSI-Se individuals than ESI-Se but less time spent with any of them than one of the 2 ESI-Se. Never spent time with a female I knew to be ESI-Se. I like LSI-Se females better than ESI females anyway but ESI-Se males better than LSI males.

    I guess my exposure to the world is low since I'm an ESI-Fi and that's one reason why I have such little experience with types other than the ones I listed above. Another might be because ILE-Ti and SLE-Ti aren't very judgmental of the whole person, especially SLE-Ti so willing to talk with me, .
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    I’m not sure there is much meaningful difference. The only possible trend I can maybe make out is that intuitive types are rarer than sensors. I’ve known many more ESIs than EIIs, SLIs than ILIs, SLEs than ILEs, and so on. Even for duals this seems accurate: more ESE than LII, more LSI than EIE. My theory is that intuitives represent more evolutionary risk since they’re more mentally unstable in certain respects. I could imagine a society of only SLIs functioning; I can’t really say the same of ILIs. Can you imagine?? Or ILEs. Or EIEs. Even XII might appear to be the most temporarily successful of all the intuitive types, but only up until the point we start getting hungry; then we’d get too bitchy to work with each other and collectively starve.
    I've met a lot of EIEs. I do think xNTx are less common. I don't think p types could keep a whole society or system working for too long.

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    Ime


    Most common to least in each group.

    ISxx
    1.SEI
    2. LSI
    3. ESI
    4. SLI

    ESxx
    1.ESE
    2.LSE
    3.SEE
    4.SLE

    INxx
    1.IEI
    2.EII
    3.LII
    4.ILI

    ENxx
    1.EIE
    2.IEE
    3.ILE
    4.LIE

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    Si egos
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    I AM YOUR WORST ENEMY
    I AM YOUR DEAREST FRIEND
    MALIGNANTLY MALEVOLENT
    I AM OF DIVINE DESCENT


    I AM YOUR UNCONSCIOUSNESS
    I AM UNRESTRAINED EXCESS
    METAMORPHIC RESTLESSNESS
    I'M YOUR UNEXPECTEDNESS

    I AM YOUR APOCALYPSE
    I AM YOUR BELIEF UNWROUGHT
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    Quote Originally Posted by serenaeva View Post
    Si egos
    What's your tritype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    What's your tritype?
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    I AM YOUR HOLY TOTEM
    I AM YOUR SICK TABOO
    RADICAL AND RADIANT
    I'M YOUR NIGHTMARE COMING TRUE

    I AM YOUR WORST ENEMY
    I AM YOUR DEAREST FRIEND
    MALIGNANTLY MALEVOLENT
    I AM OF DIVINE DESCENT


    I AM YOUR UNCONSCIOUSNESS
    I AM UNRESTRAINED EXCESS
    METAMORPHIC RESTLESSNESS
    I'M YOUR UNEXPECTEDNESS

    I AM YOUR APOCALYPSE
    I AM YOUR BELIEF UNWROUGHT
    MONOLITHIC JUGGERNAUT

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    as I hate most of the people (all of them, but as lazy a*ses say, let's take it easy), I think Si egos are common.
    SLI : the quiet guy who is so nice at what he does, just like a soldier, he will be sent to do something, and has no F**KING idealogy. he'll do anything you say. and at some cases, can be a lazy kid who plays video games 24/7/30/365!!!
    LSE : the guy which seems so cool. the successful guy with a lamborghini driving through the city with an expensive suit.
    ESE : grandmas, actors/actresses, st**id caretakers.
    SEI : I have no special idea how they are. maybe like yuji? something like SLI but a bit softer and more interesting.

    common people..........I hate them so much. boring, contented and with no ambition or passion to jump into a conflict, no interest in destroying political systems to create their own.
    if I want to live like them for a min, I'll get a high level untreatable depression lol ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenaeva View Post
    4w3-5w4-8w7
    good good
    have you tried MBTI or Psycho Yoga?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    good good
    have you tried MBTI or Psycho Yoga?

    Psycho Yoga?
    I seem to be an ISxP in Myers-Briggs too.. leaning ISFP although quite a lot of people argue ISTP or INTJ for me.
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    I'M YOUR NIGHTMARE COMING TRUE

    I AM YOUR WORST ENEMY
    I AM YOUR DEAREST FRIEND
    MALIGNANTLY MALEVOLENT
    I AM OF DIVINE DESCENT


    I AM YOUR UNCONSCIOUSNESS
    I AM UNRESTRAINED EXCESS
    METAMORPHIC RESTLESSNESS
    I'M YOUR UNEXPECTEDNESS

    I AM YOUR APOCALYPSE
    I AM YOUR BELIEF UNWROUGHT
    MONOLITHIC JUGGERNAUT

    STRAY BULLET
    FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE
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    Quote Originally Posted by serenaeva View Post
    Psycho Yoga?
    I seem to be an ISxP in Myers-Briggs too.. leaning ISFP although quite a lot of people argue ISTP or INTJ for me.

    Interesting Interesting
    ISPs are more common in ESI rather than INTJ. also, ISFP is more possible with 4w3.
    in MBTI, cognitive functions and quadrants can help you.
    but I recommend you to follow and learn other tests first, because MBTI is a bit....creepy to start with at the first
    (I did it, and well, I screwed)

    you may want to look at psycho yoga.
    test link :
    https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/take-the-free-test/

    you can read and learn all about this test on that site.

    however, you can ask me your questions about it, send me pictures of your results and I can introduce different tests to you if you're interested.
    if you were interested to do this and weren't fluent on this site (I'm not so fluent with it's forms, specially if I want to send pictures or communicate continuously), we can discuss on telegram or instagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    if you were interested to do this and weren't fluent on this site (I'm not so fluent with it's forms, specially if I want to send pictures or communicate continuously), we can discuss on telegram or instagram.
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    T in male types and F in female Ps more than Js
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
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    I have a desire for that lol

    but I don't think most of people still know what it is. we still have a lot of "fake asexuals", those people who says don't care about sex, don't want/need sex and etc.
    we have a sh***y mess called "feminism" too.

    in the stu**d country I live in, people are like this, id**t, as**ole, bi**h. I don't know how it is in other places, but from what I've seen in cyber space, in places like tiktok (a stu*id app), most of people are like that, id**t, as**ole and bi**h.

    BTW, good advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    T in male types and F in female Ps more than Js
    don't correlate gender with personality. put these bu**sh**s aside, destroy them, keep your focus on realistic and valid things. not these stu*id things of "male and female" in personality. we have a soft, and a savage personality, both of them are available in both genders. if you want to give statistics, do it independent from gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    don't correlate gender with personality. put these bu**sh**s aside, destroy them, keep your focus on realistic and valid things. not these stu*id things of "male and female" in personality. we have a soft, and a savage personality, both of them are available in both genders. if you want to give statistics, do it independent from gender.
    Iím talking about biological sex not about mental choice of sexuality
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I’m talking about biological sex not about mental choice of sexuality

    doesn't matter. personality has nothing to do with any kind of sex.
    leave stu*i*ity behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    doesn't matter. personality has nothing to do with any kind of sex.
    leave stu*i*ity behind.
    Personality type does have biological implications. I am saying type is genetic. That is my opinion so make whatever point you want and move on
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Personality type does have biological implications. I am saying type is genetic. That is my opinion so make whatever point you want and move on

    personality isn't a biological thing. whoever said that, includes you, are id**ts. it's just how you think, interact and behave. it has nothing to do with genetic.
    opinions don't matter. what is Pseudoscience, is Pseudoscience. personality isn't a material and touchable thing. it can't be experimented.
    although, a healthy Intellect would realize these things without any need to read or hear them from someone.

    I fight against bu**sh*t. doesn't matter it's opinion, politics, law, science or etc. bu**sh*t is bu**sh*t, it should be destroyed, and it will.

    so don't be id**t. be rational. be concrete. sex is sex, personality is personality, two separate things, and no f**king stu*id creative like connection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    as I hate most of the people (all of them, but as lazy a*ses say, let's take it easy), I think Si egos are common.
    SLI : the quiet guy who is so nice at what he does, just like a soldier, he will be sent to do something, and has no F**KING idealogy. he'll do anything you say. and at some cases, can be a lazy kid who plays video games 24/7/30/365!!!
    LSE : the guy which seems so cool. the successful guy with a lamborghini driving through the city with an expensive suit.
    ESE : grandmas, actors/actresses, st**id caretakers.
    SEI : I have no special idea how they are. maybe like yuji? something like SLI but a bit softer and more interesting.

    common people..........I hate them so much. boring, contented and with no ambition or passion to jump into a conflict, no interest in destroying political systems to create their own.
    if I want to live like them for a min, I'll get a high level untreatable depression lol ;D
    Well most people just don't want to change anything regardless of type because it's too damn hard.

    See my boyfriend (ILE) is a communist (I guess???) but he won't join the party or anything like that because he just thinks if we pray to God everything will go better for everyone. He doesn't care as much about actually changing anything, he just wants a normal life. I don't really blame him because he lives in Russia, and politics there is on hard mode. Everyone is some kind of political nihilist and they don't actually give a damn about doing anything because they know it will go badly if they try. The opposition leaders are either nonexistent or just lame and weak.

    On the other hand I really wouldn't be able to organize an efficient political party, I mean I don't really speak or act like I should be the leader of anything. I could see myself running a charity but that is about it.

    You need all kinds of people to organize into a team in order to create a new political ideology. If you hate most people and you actively project that, no one is going to follow you. You need ethics, and logicians, and sensors, and intuitives. You need people who will actually give a damn about others and the future of this planet and not just create a new political ideology for fun or just because they want to raise hell. Then you create your party and sit out, actively recruiting new people and building a new culture surrounding your political ideology. Develop actual plans for what your party would do if they got control of the country. Make a party network all across the country and make sure that the people in charge aren't totally evil or revisionists. Then wait until people get angry enough against the current government to actually want to take action. Remember not to destroy civilian things and have a party that loots innocent people. You need a controlled mob, not an unruly one that starts shit for fun. That is easier said that done, so I don't think people will be making their own political systems anytime soon.

    Most people aren't really contented with anything, we always want more and more. There are plenty of things to achieve in life and new things to become passionate about and develop skills in. You just mistake not giving a shit about politics as being "contented" with life.

    The problems are truly just:

    1. Making a new political ideology is very hard and requires a lot of skill and leadership which not everyone has.
    2. Not everyone actually has real compassion for others and actually give a damn about the future of other people and the planet as a whole.
    3. Not everyone's ambitions or passions are to go into political matters, most people just want to further a career or strengthen their hobbies.
    4. Lots of people are unhappy with current governance but they won't actually do anything either because they don't know how or they don't really care enough.
    5. People are afraid of backlash and possible hardships and/or jail.
    6. They simply are political nihilists and think that nothing will change. (Which is wrong, it will once things get bad enough for sure, read a history textbook.)

    May I ask exactly what you have done for politics as a whole? What conflicts have you joined? What are the goals of your political ideology? What about current governance do you hate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    Well most people just don't want to change anything regardless of type because it's too damn hard.

    See my boyfriend (ILE) is a communist (I guess???) but he won't join the party or anything like that because he just thinks if we pray to God everything will go better for everyone. He doesn't care as much about actually changing anything, he just wants a normal life. I don't really blame him because he lives in Russia, and politics there is on hard mode. Everyone is some kind of political nihilist and they don't actually give a damn about doing anything because they know it will go badly if they try. The opposition leaders are either nonexistent or just lame and weak.

    On the other hand I really wouldn't be able to organize an efficient political party, I mean I don't really speak or act like I should be the leader of anything. I could see myself running a charity but that is about it.

    You need all kinds of people to organize into a team in order to create a new political ideology. If you hate most people and you actively project that, no one is going to follow you. You need ethics, and logicians, and sensors, and intuitives. You need people who will actually give a damn about others and the future of this planet and not just create a new political ideology for fun or just because they want to raise hell. Then you create your party and sit out, actively recruiting new people and building a new culture surrounding your political ideology. Develop actual plans for what your party would do if they got control of the country. Make a party network all across the country and make sure that the people in charge aren't totally evil or revisionists. Then wait until people get angry enough against the current government to actually want to take action. Remember not to destroy civilian things and have a party that loots innocent people. You need a controlled mob, not an unruly one that starts shit for fun. That is easier said that done, so I don't think people will be making their own political systems anytime soon.

    Most people aren't really contented with anything, we always want more and more. There are plenty of things to achieve in life and new things to become passionate about and develop skills in. You just mistake not giving a shit about politics as being "contented" with life.

    The problems are truly just:

    1. Making a new political ideology is very hard and requires a lot of skill and leadership which not everyone has.
    2. Not everyone actually has real compassion for others and actually give a damn about the future of other people and the planet as a whole.
    3. Not everyone's ambitions or passions are to go into political matters, most people just want to further a career or strengthen their hobbies.
    4. Lots of people are unhappy with current governance but they won't actually do anything either because they don't know how or they don't really care enough.
    5. People are afraid of backlash and possible hardships and/or jail.
    6. They simply are political nihilists and think that nothing will change. (Which is wrong, it will once things get bad enough for sure, read a history textbook.)

    May I ask exactly what you have done for politics as a whole? What conflicts have you joined? What are the goals of your political ideology? What about current governance do you hate?


    changing personality isn't hard kid, it's something that can't be done. you're what you are, I'm what I am, this will never change, accept it, be happy and effective, deny it, make a theater and fool everyone, includes yourself.


    let me ask you a question :
    why did you write these things, and ask those questions?
    you think advice and question can change my mind?

    no argument, no advice, no pain, no threat, no praise, no idea/theory, no evidence, no fact, no one and nothing can change my mind.

    as I wrote, I'm idealogic, a conflict lover, I fight for whatever I want (not like those fights which 10 years old kids do in motivational speeches lol). also, I hate all of people.

    are you giving me two choice of "love people and win" and "hate people and lose"?
    I should inform you, I never took advice from people, I don't, and I won't. I'm the one who creates the third choice, make it happen and get it done, what no one could ever imagine, because they weren't strong and capable to imagine it.

    don't advice me kid, not you not the others. I enjoy boasting myself through these stu*id advices which I don't give a d**n about, I love conflict, but you're the one who wasted time for writing something for the one who nothing can influence on him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OredrebelO View Post
    personality isn't a biological thing. whoever said that, includes you, are id**ts. it's just how you think, interact and behave. it has nothing to do with genetic.
    opinions don't matter. what is Pseudoscience, is Pseudoscience. personality isn't a material and touchable thing. it can't be experimented.
    although, a healthy Intellect would realize these things without any need to read or hear them from someone.

    I fight against bu**sh*t. doesn't matter it's opinion, politics, law, science or etc. bu**sh*t is bu**sh*t, it should be destroyed, and it will.

    so don't be id**t. be rational. be concrete. sex is sex, personality is personality, two separate things, and no f**king stu*id creative like connection!
    In my opinion, I don't really think being a certain gender predispositions you to being either F or T. Societal gender roles do affect behavior, but societal constructs don't have anything to do with brain functions. Men try to act more logical and rational minded and women try to act more soft and emotional historically because of gender roles.

    It's not like T type would be more likely to die before making a child or more likely to mistreat their children compared to F type, so why should it be that evolution would stand against T type in women?
    I guess the only way to settle it would be to provide an explanation of why evolution would be against T type in females. DNA is genetics and in your DNA is code for building your brain, which provides the basis of your inborn personality. Let's not forget that there are two types of personality, the one you gain by interacting with the world and the one that is hard coded into you.

    Personality isn't material but hard coded Socionics personality is formed from the brain, which is material and formed from DNA at birth. Your personality which you gain from experiences is not material but shaped by experiences and the brain's thought process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    In my opinion, I don't really think being a certain gender predispositions you to being either F or T. Societal gender roles do affect behavior, but societal constructs don't have anything to do with brain functions. Men try to act more logical and rational minded and women try to act more soft and emotional historically because of gender roles.

    It's not like T type would be more likely to die before making a child or more likely to mistreat their children compared to F type, so why should it be that evolution would stand against T type in women?
    I guess the only way to settle it would be to provide an explanation of why evolution would be against T type in females. DNA is genetics and in your DNA is code for building your brain, which provides the basis of your inborn personality. Let's not forget that there are two types of personality, the one you gain by interacting with the world and the one that is hard coded into you.

    Personality isn't material but hard coded Socionics personality is formed from the brain, which is material and formed from DNA at birth. Your personality which you gain from experiences is not material but shaped by experiences and the brain's thought process.

    "Men try to act more logical and rational minded and women try to act more soft and emotional historically because of gender roles." : gender roles are meaningless and unimportant. those who care about them are id**ts. also, gender roles don't exist actually. they're just contracts, imagine, you and me make a deal that say we've seen aliens, it's just a contract, it didn't happen. it's worthless. it's the same for gender roles. meaningless, worthless and dangerous, they should be destroyed.

    don't accept whatever you read/hear kid, doesn't matter what socionics and socionists say, personality has nothing to do with real world, it's like gender roles, contracts! they don't exist, they're just theories that people create to make things easier to understand. but don't let your laziness and curiosity get you distracted or make you look like a schizophrenia.
    personality has nothing to do with brain, DNA and etc. don't repeat what you've read on wikipedia and wikisocion for me. there are a lot of b**lsh**s in this stu*id world, a lot of people develop them, determined people don't get influenced, weak people get fooled.

    have a classified and up-guard mind. when you open your mind, every sh*t can get into it. be closed minded, it's a gift if you can do it.


    edit : opinions don't matter. what isn't visible and material doesn't exist and never, ever and ever have to be correlated to material things. that' s a big mistake which schizophrenia people do. don't join them, I really don't recommend it. facts don't listen to you opinions ,kid. close your mind before it's too late.

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