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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethany View Post
    Does he only type some people with a 'complex subtype'? Do some people get a single subtype? - e.g just H. Yep, I know they say subtype can change. Is a 'complex subtype' to do with transitioning from one to another or do some people just generally have more of a complex subtype than others, if that makes sense.
    I think most people were given just a single subtype. It wasn't about transitioning between them when you got a combined subtype. The people who got information about transitioning were moving from one single subtype to a different one it seems. They were one way in the past, and now they are moving towards being a different way.

    Instead, for the combined subtypes it was that there were characteristics of both. The reasoning he gave for a combined subtype on mine:

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    What can we say about her subtype? - The most probable subtype in DCNH system is the first one, i.e. dominant (D). Why?

    This is evidenced by her contactness (daring to face danger, a tendency to express her opinion and unwillingness to stand aside in controversial situations), as well as orderliness in affairs and relationships, supplemented by the desire to bring things to an end in the most important matters (terminality).

    Contactness in combination with terminality gives a dominant subtype. That is why it is so important for X not to have bosses over her. However, this craving for freedom together with curiosity leads me to the conclusion that she has a combined subtype, namely the dominant-creative one.

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    cuz gulenko is fkin garbage
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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    They could be having a break, focusing on another project or being lazy etc.

    Let's find out
    @Poptart when did you send your first mail and what was the email address?
    @Fay when did you send your first mail and what was the email address?
    First email was back in January iirc. The second was in March. I sent it through a form on the website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDemonSheep96 View Post
    IEI-N: Poet in Cinderella's clothes. Writes with ash instead of blood. I'd consider that an upgrade first glance because I don't have a clue about the ash....
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    ILI, lol? Video seems to depict Ni imagery (Ni<->Si). Yet you seem to have plenty of Ne that spins from Ni vacuum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    cuz gulenko is fkin garbage
    Some folks feel as if they are exalted or uplifted beyond all the rest, like their way, or their view is so superior and strong. To be skeptical, to entertain eavesdropping on the outer forcefields, and undress the curtain to get other sources of guidance, such as treasure hunts and rabbit soda pop can show us the real source of worlds above bookcases for cracking the clockwork of the ultimate system.

    I have observed that people on this website have a technical expertise that's really sharply identifying of little tree branches in the multi-fractal explosion of every fiber and twitch in your psycho-analytical cards of identity and dialect, but they could think that C3P0 is some sort of God!!
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    ILI, lol? Video seems to depict Ni imagery (Ni<->Si). Yet you seem to have plenty of Ne that spins from Ni vacuum.


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    People will always find flaws in any system and argue with anything.

    Personally, I find that his descriptions of Si don't make any sense with what Si actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    First email was back in January iirc. The second was in March. I sent it through a form on the website.
    Looking at G typing thread, other people must have sent email after you (after January) and get typed.

    However, probably noone on this forum send an e-mail in March maybe only Fay could be an exception.

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    the way Fay was talking, I was thinking she did the interview a while back, and she was just now sharing
    @Poptart did you try maybe sending them an email directly from your email to theirs, without using the form? Maybe it has something to do with the form, something not working with it...
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    They haven't responded to my email last night, usually they reply very quickly so something is not right. I didn't use the form so it must be something else. Not sure what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    They haven't responded to my email last night, usually they reply very quickly so something is not right. I didn't use the form so it must be something else. Not sure what.
    weird

    half tempted to try to contact them myself lol...you know, about their ‘classes’
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    weird

    half tempted to try to contact them myself lol...you know, about their ‘classes’
    Haha
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    I do trust his objective knowledge on certain topics but not all. It's not so much about like or dislike. I do think it's annoying how he seems to have this weird fetish for typing so many people as Betas. I don't really think that's the case- I'm not trying to be a special snowflake or anything ((nor am I trying to 'play a victim' even if that's how it comes off to narcissistic str8 people)), but if the world really did have so many Betas and we supposedly get along cuz of shared quadra values I think I would feel a lot more included in the real world then I really do. But I don't, I always felt like an outsider really even when things were going well for me. Then people fanwank things to mean what they want so they say things like 'well that's cuz Betas fight amongst themselves more than other quadras' or something ^_^' - which I personally think is nonsense and a dumb way to try and prove your point.

    It's a weird hero worship/sychophant thing when I see people overly value what he says just because he's incredibly logical or professional or something. He's definitely a thinker type. But I feel that way about anybody who treats somebody like that. It's like some people don't have much confidence and get easily gaslighted/manipulated by somebody saying things in an overly rational/logical/professional way even if it's not necessarily true. I suppose in a way it has to with my Te polr but a benefit of that I think is also a skill to see through bullshit when there is some to a point. He's a ILI right? He comes off soooo ILI-like in his demeanor and viewpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    He's a ILI right? He comes off soooo ILI-like in his demeanor and viewpoints.
    LII. His self-typing, at least.
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    They answered me last evening so they're still alive and kicking ^^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    First email was back in January iirc. The second was in March. I sent it through a form on the website.
    That's weird. People have gotten typed since then, so maybe your emails are going into their spam box or theirs into your spam box?

    I don't see another reason why they wouldn't answer in that long lol.
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    My book arrived. A few pages in and I like it. I think he seems like a good role model for me lol.
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    @BandD I personally think he comes across as quite open-minded and relaxed. He’s LII but he’s C subtype so maybe that’s why I like him. (I am H) C types seem like very independent thinkers with a humanistic touch.

    Also, I think maybe the reason people get typed as Betas..is well..everyone has a bit of Beta in them, (like we have a bit of all the quadras in us) and I think it’s the most raw, earthy part of them. Maybe for a psychologist, they just notice this part the most. Maybe he just goes with Beta if he’s not sure. Maybe he’s just a person who has off days with typing. Maybe he’s better at the DCNH part. Sorry so many maybes, I don’t mean to sound sassy I’m just half asleep and thinking lol.

    Eventually I’d like to read up on what other writers have to say as well as Gulenko. I think it’s taken me a while to properly read stuff because I felt like it was all a bit brain-washy for me and there was something I didn’t trust about it. I feel like maybe I can also see through the bs now I’m not sure it bothers me with Gulenko though. (Again maybe coz he’s C type which matches with my H type).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    I do trust his objective knowledge on certain topics but not all. It's not so much about like or dislike. I do think it's annoying how he seems to have this weird fetish for typing so many people as Betas. I don't really think that's the case- I'm not trying to be a special snowflake or anything ((nor am I trying to 'play a victim' even if that's how it comes off to narcissistic str8 people)), but if the world really did have so many Betas and we supposedly get along cuz of shared quadra values I think I would feel a lot more included in the real world then I really do. But I don't, I always felt like an outsider really even when things were going well for me. Then people fanwank things to mean what they want so they say things like 'well that's cuz Betas fight amongst themselves more than other quadras' or something ^_^' - which I personally think is nonsense and a dumb way to try and prove your point.

    It's a weird hero worship/sychophant thing when I see people overly value what he says just because he's incredibly logical or professional or something. He's definitely a thinker type. But I feel that way about anybody who treats somebody like that. It's like some people don't have much confidence and get easily gaslighted/manipulated by somebody saying things in an overly rational/logical/professional way even if it's not necessarily true. I suppose in a way it has to with my Te polr but a benefit of that I think is also a skill to see through bullshit when there is some to a point. He's a ILI right? He comes off soooo ILI-like in his demeanor and viewpoints.
    loll yeah he types himself LII-C, BandD, get with it

    not to be like..bitchy or anything lol, but your argument is really personal and seems to be influenced by how you are treated by people and not feeling accepted by society, which I think a lot of people that get into typology fall into the trap of. if a lot of your perception is influenced by this, the foundation is going to be a bit wonky. I mean maybe he’s right, maybe there are more betas. Maybe it’s a supply and demand thing and that’s what our species calls for ? Why does it have to be equally divided. I’ve seen other people say that on here, but why and where did they read that? Where’s the proof?

    anyway, I have to admit that I have fallen/tend to fall into the trap of listening to people who sound to me like they know their shit. It’s hard to decide sometimes whose full of it. I think lately I’ve realized a few people I’ve listened to in the past are (kind of full of it) People almost always see through it eventually when people are, but I think sometimes it can be a little bit more difficult maybe for ethical types about these things , especially when we aren’t stuck in our own Ti theories and try to ride on the coat tails of others Ti, and then maybe you realize somethings not right here Sometimes I go by peoples
    reputation (and yes I like to decide for myself, but I do think there is some importance there, something telling), and usually if they have a bad one, there’s a reason. He seems to have a good one.
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    Reading bits and pieces of the book and also taking a look at the descriptions on sociotype.com for the two subtype descriptions of each type (which includes Gulenko).

    I’m thinking of a couple of people I have been attracted to in the past (didn’t go out with them but felt a strong connection with them) and I have typed them as C subtypes but NOT matching subtype using the 2 subtype system. Found this interesting. Maybe both subtype systems can be used together for measuring compatibility?
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    I feel like my understanding on socionics has been in a state of constant flux over time. The way I understand and look at things at one time, isn't the way I will another. Sometimes I'm completely focused on one thing - like information elements, and another time I'll focus on something else, like reinin dichotomies. Sometimes I'll read a lot by one author and decide to try their approach, other times someone else even though I've had my favorites throughout the process. What this ends up doing is mixing a ton of concepts and ideas and it's a rather weird disjointed picture. (Partially why I tell people not to take my typings and what I say overly seriously) Even though I said just a couple posts ago that it's a good idea to choose one school and stick with that, it's actually hard for me to do in practice, because I have a tendency to want to look at everything. But I intend to try anyway, at least for awhile. As it is right now, I could argue with myself indefinitely if I wanted to by using different authors and concepts against each other.

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