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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I think it's a bioweapon. I didn't want to go that far. I would much prefer to hold a view that others that had not looked beyond the goverment narrative would be more willing to get on board with me about. But a convincing Dr. video*, forgot his name, but eminent, told the truth and I could not un-see it.
    The spike protein is problematic. The way some mrna nanoparticles get into tissues its not supposed to be in and cause them to make spikes on their cell walls is problematic. It may also inhibit DNA repair and that is problematic. There are several other issues. Its not a bioweapon in and of itself though. It was tech hastily put together by a greedy corporation who blackmails health authorities into using it, in fear of actual covid-19.

    Now covid 19 may have been part of a covert bioweapons program run by the PLA in China. The PLA took over operations of the WIV in 2017-18, shortly after its new facility construction. This is all public record as well. The funny part is covid might have escaped from a Level 3 facility, with protocols no more stringent than a dentist office. They put the furon cleavage site onto the virus and also used serial passage to make it look natural. They used published techniques by Zheng - Li Shi and Peter Daszak, who himself was on the WHO investigation team, but was later removed because of outcry into his conflicts of interest. You can't have the leading researcher investigating his own laboratory. Unfortunately all evidence was scrubbed a year before WHO arrived, and the investigation into the lab was a public sham. The cover-up was complete.


    What do you think of the test/study results from this great experiement being sealed from view for 75 years?? Unprecedented!
    Ofc they did this. The data shows the vaccines are not all that effective and they used statistical math to prove they worked without a control group. They don't want any negative attention, seeing how their prophylactic symptom reducer made them billions and billions of dollars this year. The records are sealed until anyone who can be held responsible are dead. Very clear optics here.

    It is stunning that there is not more gigantic and constant protests against mandates and masks. A little, but not as much as European cities, where millions now jam the streets to protest in major cities every weekend. But as to that, partly the lack of huge citywide protests in the USA is becase European cities are more compact and walkable, vs. US cities being more sprawling. An example is Houston, which has a highway loop around it that takes 2 hours to drive! Yes, our cities are much more spread out, so it is less efficient to strike up a weekend million man protest here. We are having a lot of rallies though.
    Europe is the birthplace of modern fascism. They have more fight in them when it comes to control. I agree, North America is designed for the car. But, legacy media is centrally owned and what they want you to see they show you.

    Here in CT we are still wearing masks in schools, which is so uncomfortable for talking all day. I hate it. It must be nice to live in Florida, where no one is mandated to wear one, including school children and teachers (at least in some districts now), and of course, there is less covid in FL even with the huge more statistically-vulnerable retired-person population. They are so lucky to have that governor!
    The masks are the best we have got. But, ventilation and filtration is another. Still, its airborne, always was. Anyone with half a brain can see the masks are minor effective at best. IMHo the way they are used and worn, they are nothing more than theatre props. I've been very vocal about this on the forum since the first month of the first year but no, call me schizophrenic.

    Dem. politics are becoming more and more ridiculous, evil and destructive, but finally some of the most party-loyal minion are awakening. There is the Republican Florida Governor acting so enviably, and now the Democratic West Virginia Governor is willing to go counter-party for the good of his state, and they are both becoming much-loved. I hope that other Dem. Governors see that and decide to go counter-party, too. If they haven't got it in them to do it on principle, they might jump in for personal popularity and political gain.
    You need to understand, its not just a matter of red vs blue. The entire planet is involved, and the hundreds of other governments and their parties as well. That it has become partisan is America's particular brand of covid-19 issues.

    But I already know, in the end (which is soon!), the people win -- because that is what the prophets are saying, and I believe them! So however it happens, it will be good and when God pours out his Glory on our nation and then the world, we will all be happy and prosper.
    I do not subscribe to Armageddon type thinking. Its archetypical, unnecessary, and speaks to a need in people to see their external world end. I'm always interested in Terence Mckenna's opinion about history being pulled towards a strange transcendental object at the end of history, but its not worth getting into here. Is the end times literal, or metaphorical, or self fulfilled prophecy, or witnessed pattern in history's forgotten past, what?

    Last spring, prophet Robin Bullock AND his wife, Robin, both powerfuly told of God's wrath against Cuomo, and prophesized his ousting from the governorship. And we won't be seeing any more of him (just old pictures). He was truly evil and God's had mercy on us and justice was done.

    This week another reliable prophet gave us prophecy that God said the replacement NY governor (forgot her name), whose policies are the same or worse than Cuomo's, and her vainglory is dispicable, will be ousted soon, too. The next governor for NYS after that will be someone who is a true servant of the people. I am so glad for NYS!
    Sometimes the inevitable occurs, and when its something we want, we call that merciful. When its something we do not want, we call that tyrannical. I think grace, the field past right doing and wrong doing, the objective point of view, is the ideal to strive for.

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    *I really don't care if anyone who hasn't listened to real science thinks about what I think. I think people are asleep or they are deluded, from the onslaught of lies, or both. Being overwhlemed and hopeless and afraid makes people not research things (anyway, NY Times says critical thinking is dangeroous! You should just stick with the narrative given by the first ten sites that come up on google for any question you have! Goodgle will direct yolu to fact checkers for any questions you have!) I think most people believe what they have been told: that the world is going to hell in a handbasket and they can't do a thing about it. All ther is to do is trust the people ini charge to manage it.

    But if you happen to be interested in the aforementioned video I can look it up if you want. it was an hour or more, and rivieting. But really, if you get off the highly-censored Google search and use Duckduckgo, you will find so much. The search results includes the CNN and MSNBC etc. communist narrative links, but you can also find so much more than on google. Also Rumble.com. Also Mercola.com. The Plandemic movie part. 1 & 2 should not be missed by anyone. Millions have seen it, but too many have not.

    And if you really want to know what is going on, it is the World War III that we have been in, that is almost over! To learn of that, see "Q and the Plan to Save the World" on Rumble. That is no more than 15 minutes and tells why and how our world is about to flip for the better. It's the practical explanation of what is actually happening. [It is alleged to be JFK Jr. narrating, and I think ther is plenty of evidence for that.] That video gives the whole overview of who is involved in changing the world (a lot of military) and why, and how.

    But above all and through this there is also our God, the Lord of all, who says our nation is like a ship sailign upside down and that He is soon going to FLIP it, and set it sailing on a right course. We will know it is God who acted, and He will get the glorty. In fact He will pour his glory out on earth and this year, 2022, a mightly revival like never seen before will spread across our nation and the world. Hearts will hunger and thirst for Him and He will manifest Himself. He is going to pour his Glory out on us, and there will be healing miracles like never before. Miraculous full healings will be commonplace! Even children in schools will heal other children! (I have watched the rise of autism over the years, and worked with so many of these children, and I believe ALL of that is over this year!) People everywhere will become whole! Depression will be gone. Mental health conditions, PTSD, Borderline. missing limbs and organs: God is going to heal it all. And He, who owns the gold, will prosper us. We have a great future!
    I think covid has really opened up the world, the corporate world, and showed the existential problems of our new century that we have to fight over. I think its made people so buggy in the meanwhile. Its torn a lot of families apart.

    Utopia, there is no such thing. I think the lesson inherent in the Santa Claus myth, that your parents and authority lie to you and the truth is not real, doesn't seem to last long.

    Can there be redemption, can there be peace, as well as the conflict and suffering? To me, that's what a true sage really asks.

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    Fauci says kids under four will likely need three doses of the Covid vaccine

    Alternative headline: federal government recommends child abuse.

    Never mind the fact that kids statistically don't die from Covid; never mind the risk of inflicting on children myocarditis; never mind the fact that Sweden recommends children not get "vaccinated" at all. This is child abuse.

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    I've seen some bad takes, like the belief that Sweden's low count refutes the effectiveness of lock downs. Even if that were true (and it really might be for all I know), it's wrong to use it as an indisputable fact. There are lots of variables to consider, like Sweden's population genetics and its interaction with COVID; Swedes' choice to self-distance, strengthened by the high discipline of Sweden's population; the fact that Swedes already live a solitary lifestyle and tend to stay home; and so on.

    It wouldn't be a problem if these takes were presented cautiously and exploratively. That would be skepticism in action. Instead, they light up social media. They're shouted bombastically with complete confidence, even more dogmatically than the alleged dogmatism of scientists. They're crafted to accuse rather than explore.

    In the long run, if people are inundated with too much conflicting information, my fear is that they become more accepting of regulatory censorship (and of technocracy in general). I used to think that it was cool when people stuck to their guns. But past a certain point, you stop being scientific.

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    Quebec's health institute admits "no documents" justifying curfews and vax pass

    Despite Quebec’s use of repeated curfews and vaccine passports, the province’s national institute of public health (INSPQ) has admitted that it does not have any documents related to studies showing the effectiveness of these two measures.
    These and other revelations came in response to an access to information request filed on Jan 11 asking a number of questions related to the COVID-19 pandemic.
    The request inquired whether the INSPQ had any studies proving the effectiveness of curfews, to which it stated that it holds “no documents for this question.”
    The same answer was given to a question about whether the INSPQ had studies proving the effectiveness of vaccine passports (apart from increasing vaccination rates through coercion)...
    Despite this lack of documentation, a directive from Quebec’s Ministry of Health reveals the INSPQ had advised that workers who are double or even triple-vaccinated are to be considered only partially protected.
    However, the ministerial directive also stated that non-immunocompromised healthcare workers who had been infected with COVID-19 since Dec. 20 2021 are considered “protected” regardless of their vaccination status.

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    The group used data from the INSPQ to back their claim, concluding that the curfew imposed by the government of Quebec was not only ineffective when it came to preventing the spread of COVID, but harmful to society at large.
    What a surprise

    In other news,

    Scotland's Covid data will not be published over concerns it's "misrepresented" by "anti-vaxxers."

    LMAO.

    “The main important point around all of the analysis is we understand whether the vaccines are working against catching it and against getting severe Covid, and that’s where the vaccine effectiveness studies come in which are a completely different methodology.


    "The case rates, hospitalisation rates, the death rates are very simple statistics, whereas for the vaccine effectiveness studies we use modelling, we compare people who have tested negative to those who have tested positive and match them on their underlining co-morbidities.
    WTF is this weasel wording, lmao. "We know the vaccines are effective because we've 'modeled' them, so you can't trust those lying numbers saying otherwise." And since when is "modeling" from assumptions used to form conclusions when you have actual data to work with, anyway?

    ...Oh, that's right, we can't publish the data because it would make "anti-vaxxers" think they're right.



    Hahaha. What a thing to admit. So much for informed decisions.
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    The CDC isn't publishing large portions of the Covid data it collects

    I wonder why?

    Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.”
    Oh, of course, I'm sure there's a lot of data to collect, and it takes time to release. That's understandable --


    Another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted, Ms. Nordlund said.
    Aha, there it is.


    The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public.

    Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire for not tracking so-called breakthrough infections in vaccinated Americans, and focusing only on individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk comparisons with unvaccinated adults, rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients stratified by age, sex, race and vaccination status.

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    The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.
    "Guys, trust us, the vaccines are effective, which is why we've been hiding the numbers proving that they are lest they make you think that they aren't."

    Of course the comments are turned off.

    Will anyone who thought unvaccinated people were selfish, or stupid, or wanted them negatively triaged, or wanted them locked up, either publicly apologize or privately reflect on how easily they were fooled into hating them? Doubtful.

    I hope, at the very least, that after this phrases like "trust the science" or "trust the experts" can never be used again.
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    I had my first and second dose of Moderna last year. Got my booster earlier this year.

    My employer gave me a bonus and time off for getting each of the vaccines. I'm pretty happy about that.
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    I'm by no means anti-vaccine, but I liked this sympathetic article written about anti-vaxxers. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-covid-vaccine

    Left-leaning people wonder ‘what’s wrong’ with the unvaccinated. But what if their non-compliance isn’t that surprising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    I'm by no means anti-vaccine, but I liked this sympathetic article written about anti-vaxxers. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-covid-vaccine
    The fact that governments are admitting to having hidden the data they used to claim that the vaccines were effective because they're concerned the data will prove the vaccines not to be effective is something which should be added to that list.

    There's also the fact that Pfizer was penalized with the largest criminal fine in American history...for marketing an ineffective drug as effective.

    There's also the fact that Moderna never released any approved drug before the Covid vaccine, and despite the fact that there's never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus before, they managed to produce it in under a year.

    There's also the fact that Fauci and the FDA have a history of disregarding safe, effective, and relatively cheap treatments in favor of untested, dangerous, and expensive experimental treatments.

    And of course Fauci also has a history of fearmongering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    and despite the fact that there's never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus before, they managed to produce it in under a year.
    That could be a part of some scandalous plot to key up (or outright manufacture) a pandemic.

    But another possibility is that pharmaceutical companies were so busy producing profitable, recreational drugs (like Viagra) that they never allocated the necessary resources into researching more serious ailments. Coronaviruses have been known about for some time, meaning that their under-investigation (in favour of short term profits) is a market failure. In fact, for all we know, the "correct" timeline for vaccine production should have been far less than a year. If we are hell-bent on uncovering hidden motivations, this latter possibility sounds scandalous enough.

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    The vaccines failed though, so all your arguments are moot.

    I guess they can just keep changing the definition of a vaccine to keep it working.

    Even Bill Gates said omnicron vaccinated everyone, so the vaccines are useless now.

    But I guess all that Government sunk costs needs to be used somehow..

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    Omicron Omnicron, ah who cares. Moron=Bill Gates Omicron morOnic
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