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    Default What are your aims when it comes to Socionics?

    I suspect that people will have goals of some kind. But they may not be expressed, and there may be a lack of deliberate effort to effectively bring about their goals.

    I imagine the most common goal will be to define and understand your personality and the personality of others.

    Another will be to improve relationship quality.

    Also, to minimise deficiencies and fulfil needs.

    I think many such goals would be achieved more effectively without Socionics but that there is little recognition or desire for this.

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    An infinite number of reasons

    But mostly to increase the number of things I can do once I start to understand people
    self-discovery
    self-development
    optimism
    relationships
    communication
    high ideals

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    Well, if I would be completely honest about it, I would actually like to push it from pseudoscience label to actual science. To work on actual research and have findings that would make it worthy of acceptance in common circles. Ultimate goal is to start or be in an organization where the goal is to use Socionics to improve society by helping people self-actualize and realize their own self and relationships with people. Personally, to combine it with other concepts/ideas I’ve been thinking of for a long time now. But all of those things are just part of a greater thing I want to start, which is an organization/academia of my own or maybe a guild. I don’t know how to describe it in words and I’m on my phone but it will be a combination of research and production, theoretical to applied and back so it will be self-sustaining.

    But of course it’s quite lofty knowing I am not the most learned, and I admit I do not have the energy to do all of that alone. So I mostly just use it to realize myself and help some people I know. Sometimes I try to give them advice based on it. Or sometimes I mention some Socionics concepts in a simpler manner, though I don’t say that it is Socionics (most people will ignore you if you do that). So I can at least apply it even at a very small scale.

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    research reasons, want to see if it's real and if it can help with astrology. but i have my doubts..

    i got first interested in it for its IR aspects and because it looked more comprehensive than mbti, but tbh those things are the worst at this point

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    Good source of hypotheses and potential explanations for others' behavior (in the sense that if socionics says x type does y you can infer something about what makes people do y or get the idea in the first place that y is a thing people do)

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    Mainly to better understand myself since I really have a hard time seeing what kind of person I really am. I have CPTSD and depression so it is hard for me to see who I could have been or could be. I try to get feedback from my wife since she is the only one I really trust for feedback but her feedback turns out to be really vague.

    However, I have found socionics to just bring more questions than answers and while I used to feel confident in how I typed others, over the years, I have subjected all of that into question. Once I think I have found a type for myself or others, I tend to see contradictions that nullify my hypothesis.

    I think the reason I come back to this forum is because it's the only online space where I feel I have any history and have made connections with a few members. So I guess I feel a better sense of belonging here than on other forums.

    In real life, I have acquaintances but only one friend I actually hang out with. I don't really feel comfortable socializing with most people because I don't want superficial BS or to feel like I have to be fake. I'd rather click with someone and not have to expend energy trying to get to know someone.

    Also, because of COVID, I really don't go out like I used to.

    But the main reason is to help better understand myself, my capabilities, and to help shed this inferiority complex I wrestle with from constant rejection and ridicule when growing up and pretty much having no one I could trust to confide in. I just feel really lost sometimes and not sure what the significance of my life is or if I'm just coasting by until I die. Even though I have studied spiritual and such, I feel like life is what it is and the spiritual element is not something I naturally notice along with the deeper meaning of life, hence why I don't really plan for the future. I want to be happy but it's hard not to see myself through my father's eyes.

    Lastly, I really cannot really relate to anyone too deeply. I feel like an anomaly and maybe knowing myself better and see how there are others like myself can at least help me find people I can learn about and learn something from. When left to my own devices and reflecting on myself, I see nothing and feel nothing. It's like "who cares?"

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    lol, same. It must be a natural progression. (but I want to be a master shit-poster; good to have dreams!)
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    The only problem socionics has given me is a propensity to analyze every relationship from the lens of socionics and I also see that it is worse in my boyfriend. Nothing makes any sense that way and it does not really solve any problems.





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    At this point I want to attain a satisfactorily thorough understanding of information itself, and socionics provides me with an interesting and familiar context to do this with.

    In fact, an ongoing project of mine is to reduce the IEs and whatnot into mathematical concepts and then resynthesize them in various ways. I also want to expand on socionics dimensionality to account for IEs beyond the proposed 4 dimensions.

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    To make me and other people happier, wiser and stronger.
    By:
    1) better pairs, the making of which takes into account Jung types as one of important factors
    2) improving weak functional regions, to what should help pairs with good IR and good love feelings
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    after all these years, socionics and this particular forum are more or less indistinguishable to me and mainly it operates as my connection this fucked up community

    i take it marginally more seriously than astrology (sorry if that offends), which is to say i can see some truth and use in it, even if i think it's mostly imaginary.
    there are also little ancillary benefits to me that could find other routes to manifest if needed, like self-absorption, excessive rumination about relationships, and fantasy. it's unfortunate that not everyone recognizes those things for what they are, but everybody has a path and their place on it is only one factor in how much they annoy me on this forum

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    I intend to create a rigorous, mathematical framework for socionics which will resolve theoretical disagreements, give insight into the nature of the mind and reality, and, God willing, provide a framework for self-development.

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    it's a good way to cut up and dice the world into manageable pieces....and use it as an excuse for my problematicness


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    There wasn't ever a goal. I got introduced to it by an online friend shortly before the covid "pandemic" hit and due to quarantine, had some time to closely look at it. I didn't have as much interest in it until after I got typed by G because then I got to experience theories first hand. I continued with it because I like psychology and I'm fairly well-versed with Jung's cognitive theories before I got introduced to socionics. Now that I know more, my goal is to better understand myself and tackle certain areas to improve upon. Sometimes I'm compelled to clarify stereotypical misinformation that gets circulated by the Betas, esp. EIEs who are behind the flame wars and trolling, but that's an afterthought.

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    Socionics is mostly a collection of half truths which distorts by exaggerating/diminishing aspects of psyche and relationships to point of being fundamentally useless and less than descriptive.

    So yeah, I don't bother with it anymore.
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    It entertains me and I like it. Nothing more to it than that.

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    Extract some grain(or hopefully more) of truth from this system into something less based off Jungian functions and more on something like dual relationships, communication, stress, or really anything that could be much more easily experimented on.

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