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    Default Morality of using porn by pornstars who found Jesus

    What's your take on the rightness/wrongness of using porn by ex-pornstars that have since found Jesus (or Muhammad / Moses / Vishnu / etc.)? Discuss.

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    porn is generally bad anyway and the history of your income generation or survival strategy doesn't usually correlate to the intensity of your mistakes

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    WTF? They should ask their god to remove their porns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    What's your take on the rightness/wrongness of using porn by ex-pornstars that have since found Jesus (or Muhammad / Moses / Vishnu / etc.)? Discuss.
    I mean.... Just because they found Jesus doesn't mean they're against porn. Could be an off chance they're progressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    What's your take on the rightness/wrongness of using porn by ex-pornstars that have since found Jesus (or Muhammad / Moses / Vishnu / etc.)? Discuss.
    oh, like they don't consent? That's a problem with porn in general, but I think you're talking about the situation of someone who is actively saying they don't consent and people are still exploiting the content. Constructive question

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanashi View Post
    oh, like they don't consent? That's a problem with porn in general, but I think you're talking about the situation of someone who is actively saying they don't consent and people are still exploiting the content. Constructive question
    Yeah, it's about retroactive consent.

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    You mean them using it or the general public fapping to their vids after they've found Jesus? Porn is one of those things where I'm sure people most still look it up even if they denounce how immoral it is in public... ((like my boy Jesse Santana says)) I don't care if somebody is against it or finds it immoral (I don't) but I don't like hypocrites.

    Reminds me of Jake Genesis tho lol. He has since denounced doing porn since he found religion: https://www.christianpost.com/news/e...ic-church.html

    However, most of his scenes were incredibly boring before he quit so his heart really wasn't much into it in the first place. Gay porn was much better in the 90s and early 00s, now it's mostly just incredibly boring. I don't even know how the hell you could say the gay version is 'immoral' since it often tries to be so inoffensive it's just goddamn boring. And anything extreme or kinky, usually lacks intimacy and the guys don't look like they even want to be there and they are spaced out/zombified. (with a few rare exceptions)

    I haven't paid much attention to the str8 stuff lately- but it seems more tame than it used to be and just Stepdaughter fantasy stuff.

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    People should stop breathing because some of the air molecules were previously inside crazed zombie murderers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    What's your take on the rightness/wrongness of using porn by ex-pornstars that have since found Jesus (or Muhammad / Moses / Vishnu / etc.)? Discuss.
    I don't see the connection.

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    Christianity main idea is about love - to God, people, world. Not about sex with people or what to eat.

    Indirectly the prostitution can be soul related, psychology problem - as people who choose it, often do not seek relations with deep love and limit interests by surface sexual attractions. They get sex without love feelings which gives lesser than could, relations without friendship. Sexual attraction helps to have higher interest to other human in general, helps to have better emotions and relations. It should help to get better love. It's misused when "just sex" relations are chosen.
    Sex is a form of joining with other human, a part of means for love. The task should be love. Not sex itself.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Surely if they are happy to receive their royalties there is nothing wrong with carrying on paying them? That is all that matters.

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    Pretty sure it's the consent they gave in the moment that matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Christianity main idea is about love - to God, people, world. Not about sex with people or what to eat.

    Indirectly the prostitution can be soul related, psychology problem - as people who choose it, often do not seek relations with deep love and limit interests by surface sexual attractions. They get sex without love feelings which gives lesser than could, relations without friendship. Sexual attraction helps to have higher interest to other human in general, helps to have better emotions and relations. It should help to get better love. It's misused when "just sex" relations are chosen.
    Sex is a form of joining with other human, a part of means for love. The task should be love. Not sex itself.
    I disagree with the speculation about motivations of prostitution but wanna like this for the first paragraph<3

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    Sometimes, people who engage in sex with strangers just want sex. I did. And sometimes, people who engage in sex with strangers for money just want money.

    It is possible to speculate that a person might have sex for money because they don't see the consequences of their actions very well, but the same could be said about people who don't save for the future. In either case, they can find themselves down the road and might not be happy about their situation and might regret their previous actions.

    Is their problem my problem, too?

    OK, I'm gambling at roulette. I choose red and the ball falls on black. Oh, wait. I regret my former choice. I want a do-over, and you should stop allowing people to gamble.

    STOP ME BEFORE I MAKE A PERSONAL CHOICE AGAIN!

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    I think if you consent to do porn to begin with, especially in the era of the internet, you're probably assuming that your stuff is going to be online forever. If I changed my mind about porn in the future, but I was a porn actor, I would be like, "Yeah I don't agree with that now but that ship sailed a long time ago. There's not much I can do about that." Especially in the case of some people who actually buy porn and pay for it with their own money, you have to balance that against the perspective of the person who acted in the porn. Is it really right for someone to want to take away what someone else has already paid for? I don't have a global answer to that question myself and can't answer based on principle, but I don't think I would be ok telling someone else that they had to delete a porn I agreed to be in for money just because I no longer believed in it.

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    You have to prove that a god exists before we can entertain the existence of morality.

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    Notwithstanding the terrible grammar, I agree that they should ask god to remove their porns

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    porn is generally bad anyway and the history of your income generation or survival strategy doesn't usually correlate to the intensity of your mistakes
    Tangent, how opposed are you to cartoon/animated erotica?

    Assuming it's the type that never used a human actor in its modeling creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    I disagree with the speculation about motivations of prostitution
    Prositution is variant of sex without love. When people seek or do such kind of sex, they have lesser interest and efforts to get relations with love (includes friendship), hence lesser chance for this. It's rather evident.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Tangent, how opposed are you to cartoon/animated erotica?

    Assuming it's the type that never used a human actor in its modeling creation.
    I'm sure as hell not a legitimate judge and I didn't reply to this right away when i saw it bcuz I know that sounds flippant and I gotta say it. but the fact that you're asking me is sweet and my answer while posturing impartiality is that. I see 2 things. Real people getting hurt and bad ideas about sex infecting people. Cartoons at least eliminate one of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Tangent, how opposed are you to cartoon/animated erotica?

    Assuming it's the type that never used a human actor in its modeling creation.
    Hey, tentacle-monster sex is exactly how every twelve-year-old guy feels.

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    So what about the ones that found jesus and still make porn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Hey, tentacle-monster sex is exactly how every twelve-year-old guy feels.
    I’m not sure what you mean here, but I’ve always thought tentacle monster sex was weird, not particularly hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alomoes View Post
    So what about the ones that found jesus and still make porn?
    I suppose if they rejected Jesus after finding him there’s no problem.

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    I’ve chosen to disregard all questions of personal morality like these. It’s a trap that can’t be escaped; if you start assigning personal blame you can’t stop. There’s nowhere to stop until you arrive at the conclusion that everyone is almost 100% responsible for their bad lot in life. The only thing to do is treat people like automata. Change their input until you get the output you want. So here the thing to do wouldn’t be to judge the fapper but to judge the society that produced such alienation and loneliness they have to fap to some e-girl rather than ejaculate inside the neighbor girl next door.

    I’m extremely tired and only half-sane right now but this seems sound. I welcome challenges.

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