Cool new Psychosophy test

[kuno]

Here is the link: https://www.advanced-personality.com...sophy-test.php

Be warned, it is 112 questions.

If you take the test, reply with your results pls thnx

Edit: My results are here

[necrosebud]

Gave me elvp

https://imgur.com/a/GCWhl4u

elfv might also be possible but I overall don’t relate strongly to these types

[kuno]

Gave me elvp

https://imgur.com/a/GCWhl4u

elfv might also be possible but I overall don’t relate strongly to these types

ELVF and ELFV are both popularly considered typical PY types for EII, so it might not be wrong! But that’s for you to decide ofc Really interesting.

[necrosebud]

ELVF and ELFV are both popularly considered typical PY types for EII, so it might not be wrong! But that’s for you to decide ofc Really interesting.

It seems there are many diff descriptions so I’ll pick one

i do feel like I could do a more extensive commentary if it wasn’t text but -

https://wiki.personality-database.co...-the-dramatist

ok some parts of it I do relate to but others not so much. The overall vibe seems very enneagram 4. I tend towards creative non-fiction (so like semi autobiographical) if I were to write a story, I don’t know what it would be if fictional. In consuming stories from others (books, films etc.) I do remember feeling frustrated by a very tragic ending ( butttt if it’s more of a complex one and the tragedy adds to a potentially deeper meaning it might be okay). I may feel more satisfied with happy endings. I don’t dislike birthday parties and don’t do stuff “in a fit of rage,” but I do remember when younger feeling tormented when the one I was obsessed with and talking seemingly didn’t even “care” that it was my birthday/wished me etc. like they meant a lot more to me than I did to them. I will say though I don’t know if psychology fully understand etiology for some things; just a few decades or centuries back something like ptsd might have been considered “cowardice” or “sensitivity” now it’s a legitimate problem we don’t blame the patient for. Similarly I don’t believe my “torment” is some sort of poetic dramatic way of describing what I felt. It was emotional pain, blindingly so. So that did color my world view for sure. Ofc being older now I hope I am better at dealing with such ‘triggers.’

as for cooking and cleaning I don’t like them but I’m not inert either I find alternative ways like frozen food etc. lol. If I have cook, I guess I will.

[kuno]

It seems there are many diff descriptions so I’ll pick one

i do feel like I could do a more extensive commentary if it wasn’t text but -

https://wiki.personality-database.co...-the-dramatist

ok some parts of it I do relate to but others not so much. The overall vibe seems very enneagram 4. I tend towards creative non-fiction (so like semi autobiographical) if I were to write a story, I don’t know what it would be if fictional. In consuming stories from others (books, films etc.) I do remember feeling frustrated by a very tragic ending ( butttt if it’s more of a complex one and the tragedy adds to a potentially deeper meaning it might be okay). I may feel more satisfied with happy endings. I don’t dislike birthday parties and don’t do stuff “in a fit of rage,” but I do remember when younger feeling tormented when the one I was obsessed with and talking seemingly didn’t even “care” that it was my birthday/wished me etc. like they meant a lot more to me than I did to them. I will say though I don’t know if psychology fully understand etiology for some things; just a few decades or centuries back something like ptsd might have been considered “cowardice” or “sensitivity” now it’s a legitimate problem we don’t blame the patient for. Similarly I don’t believe my “torment” is some sort of poetic dramatic way of describing what I felt. It was emotional pain, blindingly so. So that did color my world view for sure. Ofc being older now I hope I am better at dealing with such ‘triggers.’

as for cooking and cleaning I don’t like them but I’m not inert either I find alternative ways like frozen food etc. lol. If I have cook, I guess I will.

This description of yourself still sounds generally like ELVF imo, but I only get a small picture of you online, so there may be a lot I’m not seeing, ofc. You do seem very 2L to me, if nothing else.

I think tests can be very hit or miss. I still fail to see how I am supposed to be FEVL lol. I’d say the only consistently reliable tests are Big 5 tests. But I still find them entertaining

[I am a frog]

LVPE = 24
EVPL = 24
VEPL = 21
LEPV = 19
LEVP = 10
PEVL = 6
VLPE = 5
LPVE = 4
EPVL = 4
ELPV = 3
EVLP = 2
VELP = -1
PVLE = -2
LVEP = -2
ELVP = -6
PVEL = -6
VPLE = -7
PELV = -7
EPLV = -9
PLVE = -10
VPEL = -11
LPEV = -13
VLEP = -21
PLEV = -27

[kuno]

LVPE = 24
EVPL = 24
VEPL = 21
LEPV = 19
LEVP = 10
PEVL = 6
VLPE = 5
LPVE = 4
EPVL = 4
ELPV = 3
EVLP = 2
VELP = -1
PVLE = -2
LVEP = -2
ELVP = -6
PVEL = -6
VPLE = -7
PELV = -7
EPLV = -9
PLVE = -10
VPEL = -11
LPEV = -13
VLEP = -21
PLEV = -27

Wow, you're tied between LVFE and EVFL! I guess it might be safe to assume you're 2V and 3F. 2V is a good placement to have, according to what I've read

[necrosebud]

This description of yourself still sounds generally like ELVF imo, but I only get a small picture of you online, so there may be a lot I’m not seeing, ofc. You do seem very 2L to me, if nothing else.

I think tests can be very hit or miss. I still fail to see how I am supposed to be FEVL lol. I’d say the only consistently reliable tests are Big 5 tests. But I still find them entertaining

you know I was just thinking of how I have never quite related to "dramatic" even in the enneagram 4 sense, people irl I don't think have ever described me as that

usually its "quiet" at first glance, when they have gotten to know me, I have gotten "complex" esp. when I was younger, or intense, etc. but never dramatic
at most, "sensitive" (but it wasn't in a way that was undermining responsibility of someone else - which is what I don't like) but never... dramatic
"good person" (I think sincerity is implied) etc.

...not that I cnanot have the more "complex" side as well. I understand I am not 100% "good" or something, even if it's unintentional

maybe there might be something to that, perhaps 'dramatic' is not the best descriptor for me

[kuno]

you know I was just thinking of how I have never quite related to "dramatic" even in the enneagram 4 sense, people irl I don't think have ever described me as that

usually its "quiet" at first glance, when they have gotten to know me, I have gotten "complex" esp. when I was younger, or intense, etc. but never dramatic
at most, "sensitive" (but it wasn't in a way that was undermining responsibility of someone else - which is what I don't like) but never... dramatic
"good person" (I think sincerity is implied) etc.

...not that I cnanot have the more "complex" side as well. I understand I am not 100% "good" or something, even if it's unintentional

maybe there might be something to that, perhaps 'dramatic' is not the best descriptor for me

I don't think 4s always have to be dramatic. SP 4s tend to be known as the calmest and least dramatic 4s, but the other subtypes of 4 can also be outwardly calm, and not dramatic. You have other 4 traits which you've explained to me. ELVFs don't necessarily have to be dramatic, either. What defines an ELVF is that they are directed by their emotions primarily, whether they fully realize it or not. 1E people can actually lack any sense of histrionics, because some 1E people prefer to keep their emotions to themselves. What doesn't change is that they prioritize their feelings about everything first and foremost. Some 1E people are dramatic and highly expressive, while others are not.

[necrosebud]

I don't think 4s always have to be dramatic. SP 4s tend to be known as the calmest and least dramatic 4s, but the other subtypes of 4 can also be outwardly calm, and not dramatic. You have other 4 traits which you've explained to me.

I don't agree with Naranjo/Beatrice Chestnut derived subtypes so I don't really use those descriptions

ELVFs don't necessarily have to be dramatic, either. What defines an ELVF is that they are directed by their emotions primarily, whether they fully realize it or not. 1E people can actually lack any sense of histrionics, because some 1E people prefer to keep their emotions to themselves. What doesn't change is that they prioritize their feelings about everything first and foremost. Some 1E people are dramatic and highly expressive, while others are not.

ok

was confused at first since the type is called "the dramatist" or at least on that website

[kuno]

was confused at first since the type is called "the dramatist" or at least on that website

I think “dramatist” in that instance means someone who writes plays. ELVFs are stereotyped as being artsy and moody people, people who are creative and channel their emotions into art.

[necrosebud]

I think “dramatist” in that instance means someone who writes plays. ELVFs are stereotyped as being artsy and moody people, people who are creative and channel their emotions into art.

oh thats dumb of me

makes sense

[kuno]

oh thats dumb of me

makes sense

No no, shh... you are not stupid. I thought the same as you, at the beginning

[WinnieW]

To my own surprise... I did that PY test and my result is ... ELVF
Hard to believe that a Socionics NT type can be ELVF in PY.

I looked at the correlations an to my next surprise an ILE can be ELVF. So I'm a much more emotional NT type, if the test is correct.

Interessting the subtypes. I'm 2L-2, which means the "golden" placement for logical reasoning,
and 3V-2, the least bad placement for 3V.

4th placement for physics is not a surprise for me. 1st placement for emotions is, however.

[Muira]

Be warned, it is 112 questions.

Only typology nerd are the type of people to take a 112-300+ question test to find out their personality type, a whole community of test-loving masochists

[Nunki]

I took this test awhile ago, and it was way off for me. I can't remember the results, but I do know that I'm an LEVF.

[kuno]

Only typology nerd are the type of people to take a 112-300+ question test to find out their personality type, a whole community of test-loving masochists

That’s how you know someone is deep in the typology sauce. I swear, at this point, all I want for Christmas is for a cool new PY test to drop lmao. This is what my life has come to

To my own surprise... I did that PY test and my result is ... ELVF
Hard to believe that a Socionics NT type can be ELVF in PY.

I looked at the correlations an to my next surprise an ILE can be ELVF. So I'm a much more emotional NT type, if the test is correct.

Interessting the subtypes. I'm 2L-2, which means the "golden" placement for logical reasoning,
and 3V-2, the least bad placement for 3V.

4th placement for physics is not a surprise for me. 1st placement for emotions is, however.

I’ve met a few ENTPs in MBTI and ILEs in Socionics who identify as ELVF, so I really don’t think it’s all that rare! 2L and 4F fit ILE perfectly. I’m glad you found a PY type you identify with!!

I took this test awhile ago, and it was way off for me. I can't remember the results, but I do know that I'm an LEVF.

I can see you being LEVF. I don’t know you all that well, but I’ll say: the way I see you usually write and express yourself is rather terse (characteristic of both 1L and 4L), yet you still come across as introspective, self-revealing, and intellectual, which suggests high use of logic. I also note an inner intensity in you that seems characteristic of 3V, but you’re generally agreeable and easygoing with others, which I can see correlating with 2E in your case.

[FreelancePoliceman]

Only typology nerd are the type of people to take a 112-300+ question test to find out their personality type, a whole community of test-loving masochists

You're excluding yourself?

[Muira]

You're excluding yourself?

Nope!

[WinnieW]

I’ve met a few ENTPs in MBTI and ILEs in Socionics who identify as ELVF, so I really don’t think it’s all that rare! 2L and 4F fit ILE perfectly. I’m glad you found a PY type you identify with!!

Thanks. I did a research on PY subtypes.
I can identify myself best with 1E-3 2L-1 3V-2 4F-1, based on the descriptions.

[Muira]

Thanks. I did a research on PY subtypes.
I can identify myself best with 1E-3 2L-1 3V-2 4F-1, based on the descriptions.

Low Fe, Unvalued Fe, etc, align more with 3-4E.

1-2E is strong emotions, engaging, using such to your own advantage(both, the most ethical socionics trait), it overwhelms you(1E).

High L is correlated to N and T.

You being 1E would signify you'd be more of a NF delta.

My reasoning is that while 1E is a bold placement of emotional sensitivity, 1-2E still use their own sensitivity towards their own advantage, such as gaining friendships and connections to exert influence/maybe even gain money(like a SEE), gain attention for a sense of fulfillment(SF gamma), and so on. Which all align with Fe demo, base, creative, and even ignoring(EII, ESI unlikely).

Types that are 1-2E are SF gammas, NF Betas, IEE, SF Gammas(for ESI if they are sx4, sp4 ESI is 3E), and EII(if so4).

Maybe you could be 4E even, maybe even having strong emotions, but it's not a big deal, which SEE sx8 seems fairly compatible with VFLE.

3E is more stoic, 1-2E being strategic, 4E being bold sometimes, bound to happen, but not a priority/insecurity/insignificant.

If you were ILE, maybe your E and V should swap out for VLEF, which would be more fitting. LII would be LVEF or LVFE.

[WinnieW]

Hello, Nemo, I get your reasoning behind it, but there are people out there who did research and statistics, and based on their research, 1E in PY does positivly correlate with intution in general, more so than emotions or ethical judgement.

Here is a link to a chart: https://www.reddit.com/r/attitudinal...nic_types_and/

If that's correct LII and ILE can actually be 1E in the PY system, in contrast to LSI or SLE, there are most unlikely 1E in PY.

The other possibility, I missjudged myself in the test, at least a few questions,
or I'm a really nerdy and scientific inclined NF-type,
but I identifiy myself better with the values of alpha quadra, less of the delta quadra.

[Squirrel]

This test is better than most PY tests there

[anotherperson]

VELF

not what i expected

but not a bad result per se

[Squirrel]

VELF

not what i expected

but not a bad result per se

You can scroll down to find your results for all types, personally the second most likely result is what I think is the most suitable for me

[qaz00]

https://i.imgur.com/1N6bOVi.png

[Apoxian404Redbull]

I often type as ELVF but I'm not entirely sure of my psychosophy type.

[yuuga]

LEVF = 94
ELVF = 90

i always get LEVF on psychosophy tests. it's what i initially typed as before coming to the conclusion that it just doesn't make sense for a social 4 to be 1L lol
pretty sure i'm ELVF

[stormtrooperate]

Interesting. ExLx leads by large, I suppose that is a good starting point.


EPLV = 68
EVLP = 66
ELPV = 34
PELV = 32
ELVP = 26
PVLE = 20
VELP = 14
EVPL = 12
EPVL = 6
VPLE = 4
PLEV = 0
LPEV = -6
LEPV = -8
LVEP = -8
LEVP = -16
VLEP = -18
PLVE = -20
LVPE = -20
PVEL = -22
LPVE = -26
VLPE = -30
PEVL = -30
VPEL = -38
VEPL = -40

[misanthropex6]

cool test.

[Squirrel]

I usually correlate PY to Enneagram, not Socionics but for those who care , here are Talanov's statistics about correlations betweens the two systems :

1F combos :


1L combos :


1V combos :


1E combos :


Among people I'm sure of their type , Enneagram and PY , I personally know SEE VELF 2So , and EIE VLEF 7So