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    I would like some assistance with figuring out my DCNH subtype.

    It would be very helpful if people could provide descriptions of each DCNH subtype for IEIs, or how to spot each subtype in IEIs. Any other helpful DCNH information is appreciated as well.

    Thanks!

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    Dominant Subtype

    Lyrist — Mocker

    Prototypes: Those who mock the shortcomings of an existing system
    Distinguished by impulsivity, this subtype is prompt in her actions. She
    suddenly initiates work, then gets distracted by something else, though
    after a while she returns to her task. She’s internally restless
    and inconsistent in her desires. She can have sudden mood swings —
    from laughter to tears and vice versa. Passionately arguing her ideas, she
    takes advice only when she’s calm and then follows it only until her next
    emotional outburst.
    She loves to talk about a variety of unusual events or emerging
    developments. Sensing danger, her anxious mood spreads. At the same
    time, she doesn’t lose faith in winning. She may even reassure the
    discouraged, giving them an emotional boost. She closely associates moral
    anguish with physical suffering.
    She never backs down when faced with sudden aggression or tension. In
    extreme situations, she inspires admiration or surprises others with her
    fearlessness in the face of danger. She never gives in to forceful pressure
    and is able to stand her ground.
    She has tendencies towards practicality and thriftiness, but a regular
    working rhythm is something she cannot sustain for a prolonged time.
    Sometimes wasteful and uneconomical, under a rush of emotions, she may
    indulge in superfluous purchases. She looks down upon people who are
    miserly or greedy with small things.
    She is often ironic and sarcastic, and even prefers to present unpleasant
    things jokingly, with a smile. Quite in need of praise and encouragement,
    she is sensitive when her work is criticized but also takes offense if her
    efforts go unnoticed. She seeks to lead in personal relationships.

    Creative Subtype

    Lyrist — Excited

    Prototype: Admirer of rare phenomena or unusual behaviors able to
    reflect and direct their feelings into creative products
    This subtype is emotional, charming, and sociable. She easily and
    naturally makes contact with people, although it is difficult for her to keep
    herself constantly in high spirits. Her gifts are spontaneity,
    sincerity, and cordiality. Figuratively, and with subtle humor, she talks
    about her experiences and what she has seen. She knows how to lighten the
    mood around her, discussing unusual situations and stories.
    She does not tolerate routine and monotony well, and she dislikes
    stereotypical expectations and strict rules. She cannot submit to
    regulations and instructions and is prone to impromptu and improvised
    actions. She chooses an opportune moment to suddenly attract attention.
    She willingly gives compliments, especially to those considered
    authorities. Her requests are laid out in such a manner that makes it
    difficult to refuse.
    Well-versed in the feelings and moods of people, she is able to find an
    individual approach for each person. Using her ability to inspire
    confidence, she forges useful contacts to achieve her goals and finds the
    most appropriate players available. It happens that successes occur in
    those instances where she is motivated by a strong desire and favorable
    circumstances.
    She permits an “artistic” mess in her apartment or workplace. She
    hardly considers economical and sober approaches to her affairs, yet in
    extreme situations she can be quite adventurous.
    She is graceful and gentle in motion and strives to express herself
    through clothes, but she won’t cross the line separating originality from
    vulgarity. She demonstrates sophistication in her specific manner of
    communication, from which she draws the attention of others.

    Normalizing Subtype


    Lyrist — Reconciler

    Prototype: A mediator between parties on the same team with
    conflicting interests
    Sensitive and attentive to people, she is able to maintain friendly
    relations. She can be relied upon. She exhibits a tolerant attitude to other
    people’s shortcomings and weaknesses. She finds it difficult to
    create or deal with conflict. In disputes, her focus is not on differences
    but rather on unifying points, aiming to reconcile. She hopes that her
    kindness and dedication will eventually be rewarded.
    She is fairly apprehensive and is prone to doubt and fluctuations when
    making important decisions; therefore, she’s in need of moral and physical
    support. She needs to be involved in matters with clear objectives in front
    of her. She completes assignments responsibly. She respects strong,
    influential people who confidently explain their position and give specific
    instructions. In work, she tends to lose a sense of reality, and is distracted
    by trifles she never has time to complete within a set period due to more
    important things.
    Owing to distractions, she sometimes forgets to fulfill promises, but is
    then eager to make amends. For the sake of maintaining good relationships
    with family and fulfilling the requirements of her position, she tries to
    develop business skills and carry out family responsibilities. She is quite
    organized and thorough in everyday life.
    She will not impose her own feelings if they are not reciprocated;
    however, relationships that have run their course aren’t severed
    immediately, as she becomes accustomed to people. She is able to wait
    patiently, coaxing them to start all over again. She may endure severe
    hardships for the sake of her ideals or present feelings.

    Harmonizing Subtype

    Lyrist — Dreamer

    Prototypes: Naive optimistic dreamers, such as Manilov of Dead Souls
    by Ukrainian playwright Nikolai Gogol
    The harmonizing subtype is soft and considerate. She has a soulful,
    poetic personality, and at heart is a dreamer and romanticist. She possesses
    a sophisticated view of the world and is willing to share her views and
    concerns with others. She seeks understanding, empathy and support.

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    8. Intuitive Ethical Introvert (IEI): The Lyric Poet

    Light, reconciling, hopeful about the future, while disorganized

    General Description

    IEI is a romantic dreamer and visionary. She is curious, and interested
    in anything that is novel, unusual, or fascinating. She leaves an impression
    with her unexpected, sometimes extravagant behavior and statements. She
    has a refined sense of humor and knows how to comfort a person and
    uplift their mood.
    She is emotive and charming, and may smile even when she is saying
    something unpleasant. She is insistent in her demands when she is strongly
    motivated. She knows how to pick a good moment to approach a person
    with her requests. She freely manages her own time and that of others.
    IEI is attentive to her own appearance and that of others, and is aware of
    how appearances influence people. If necessary, she dresses elegantly,
    even exquisitely. In a demobilized state, she complains about her life and
    hardships. She likes when she is looked after, when someone is attentive to
    her worries. She finds it difficult to give up comforts that she has grown
    accustomed to.

    Without strong directives, she becomes disorganized and demobilized.
    She cannot focus her attention on a task for lengthy periods of time. In
    handling money, she is uneconomical and careless: she may spend a large
    sum of money on something “for the heart and soul.” She may make
    promises that she hasn’t considered thoroughly. She entertains herself to
    drown out disturbing premonitions.

    Appearance


    The most characteristic feature, which makes it possible to assume with
    certainty that a person belongs to this sociotype, is an elegant appearance.
    IEI is very sensitive to harmony and balance. The feeling of composition
    allows her to dress very exquisitely at times. She perfectly selects her
    accessories and makeup, etc. She can be overly concerned and particular
    about her appearance. This applies to both women and men. The second
    feature relates to gait and figure. Figures of IEI can be both thin and quite
    full, and the more developed the intuitive component, the more
    pronounced the propensity to fullness. But regardless of the figure, IEI
    owns her body well. The gait is often graceful, sometimes even artsy, with
    pacing. A more emotional version of the IEI is easily recognizable by
    vigorous gestures. The eyes are typically narrow, but the more intuitive
    subtype’s eyes are wide and curious. During a conversation, sometimes she
    has a tendency to look into the eyes of the interlocutor, and also take them
    by the hand.

    Detailed Description

    In her behavior, the IEI is guided by her intuitive presentiments. Due to
    this quality, she is capable of surviving in the most difficult situations. She
    quickly distinguishes falsehood, hypocrisy, artifice, and degradation. She
    often acts as if she has time to spare and puts off much until tomorrow.
    She is inclined to optimism and believes in a bright future. Pictures and
    visions that IEI creates in her mind are usually much more attractive to
    her than everyday life proves to be. She can calm people down, instill hope
    and inspire them by telling of coming changes for the better. In conversation, she dislikes
    highlighting mistakes of the past.

    IEI is well-versed in nuances and ways of emotional life. She is able to
    discern when a person is in a good mood and will then turn to them with a
    request; therefore, it can be difficult to turn her down. She graciously
    responds to the humor in life. She tells jokes and anecdotes, acts in jest,
    and prods those close to her, evoking positive emotions in different ways.
    She responds to conflicts between people who are close to her with
    sensitivity. She seeks reconciliation and readily agrees to compromise. She
    will willingly sacrifice herself to settle conflicts. She is internally troubled
    and experiences a lot, but hides her agitation and poor mood behind a soft
    smile.

    IEI invests time and effort to look after her appearance. She knows how
    to dress in style and good taste. Her graceful, aesthetic movements are
    pleasing to the eye. She is flexible and adaptable, and she does not impose
    herself on anybody. Instead, she puts in the effort to adjust to the habits
    and tastes of those around her. Sometimes she complains about her health,
    poor care, or indifference; however, in extreme situations will pull herself
    together and suppress her pains. In a comfortable environment around
    familiar acquaintances, she gains confidence and strength. In such
    situations she may even allow herself to issue orders.
    IEI is not inclined to save up money or keep strict track of her finances.
    She may spend substantial sums on aesthetically pleasing (from her point
    of view) items that aren’t always useful. If she falls into financial
    difficulties, she knows who to turn to for help or finds something that she
    can sell. In long-term relationships, she does not forget to take into
    account pragmatic considerations. She does not get along well with those
    who force her to work at an unusual or uncomfortable pace and rhythm.
    She hopes for leniency, indulgences, and “smoke breaks” at work.
    She gets along with people who are sure of themselves, who are strong
    and determined. However, she does not allow her relationships to turn into
    despotism — in such cases, IEI will openly declare the
    stupidity and primitiveness of blunt force. She has a good sense of
    which kind of force to apply to achieve her goals. She resorts to forceful
    methods only when she feels a physical threat to herself or her loved ones.
    If she is in a constant state of discomfort, she begins to behave
    provocatively, rudely, and aggressively; she does it to hide her soft nature.
    In the absence of strong leadership, IEI becomes relaxed and disorganized
    to the point of carelessness. It is easy to knock her off the right track, to
    tempt her with something that promises a pleasant experience. She easily
    acquires bad habits, and getting rid of them requires a lot of effort.
    When there is no clarity and the situation is ambiguous, IEI’s mood
    spoils; she feels lost and confused. Chaos, disorganization, and lack of
    support plunge her into despair. She begins to act enthusiastically when
    she is relying on a thoughtful, logical plan aligned with a clear end goal in
    sight. She is in need of various designs, schemes, and methods. In extreme
    situations, she becomes cool and unemotional. Her thoughts become
    clearer, and she finds it easier to undertake informed decisions. She
    dislikes strict, meticulous control. Constant, firm discipline is not for her.
    Life values and ideals are one of IEI’s weak points. She feels very
    worried if time passes, compromises and concessions become delayed, and
    still no resolution has been found. She is intolerant of oppression, of the
    leveling of her and others’ abilities. She lives by the principle of noninterference
    in the internal world of the individual, though she can give
    valuable advice on unraveling one’s abilities if she is asked about this. Of
    her own abilities, the IEI is usually very critical and often underestimates
    them. She is afraid of being incompetent, not useful, and unneeded;
    therefore, she is in need of compliments and encouragement. She is good
    at choosing the most promising ideas from available ones. She searches
    for an occupation that would correspond to her ideal of service to others.
    She supports her attitudes with actions. For those whom she loves, the
    IEI can do a lot. She is adventurous and enterprising if
    she feels she has the approval of others. She regularly performs her
    duties only on a team with an established system of interpersonal
    relations. She warns that personal enmity and discord will lead to the
    collapse of the project. She tries to ensure that her professional
    relationships are also accompanied by favorable informal ties. She
    contributes to a group a harmonious beginning. When persuading people,
    she manages relationships in a manner that seems most beneficial to her.
    She successfully relates to her acquaintances and uses personal charm.

    Manner of Communication

    In interaction, a notable trait that allows us to reliably identity a person
    belonging to this sociotype is an apprehensive, somewhat shy smile, which
    appears when IEI feels agitated, or when the conversation subject turns to
    her. She is curious about all that is unusual and original and is inclined to
    chatter about all sorts of interesting trivialities. It’s difficult to focus her
    attention on essential things. She may disrupt the general line of the
    conversation by suddenly asking off-topic questions. She likes listening to
    interesting or simply entertaining and funny stories and will also recall
    funny episodes from her life. Sometimes in conversation she wavers,
    becomes coquettish, and delays giving a final answer, but has already
    decided on everything for herself. She is inclined to make empty promises
    and always finds excuses to get out of her commitments such as: “I wanted
    to, but could not,” “because of the circumstances,” etc. She likes to talk
    about her impracticality, but despite this, she also can take up and finish
    commercial and business projects fairly well. She is flexible and
    resourceful; this helps her to keep her position for a long time. She’s not a
    bad manager or leader due to the fact that she can usually pick reliable
    associates. She persuades and calms people who are upset and confused,
    telling them that not all is lost, that everything ahead is still to come, and
    other encouragements in the same key.

    Features of Behavior

    Watching the IEI for some time, it is easy to notice a particular contrast
    between her behavior in public or unfamiliar company and among
    familiars, including at home. In public the IEI always behaves gently and
    politely, not permitting herself any rudeness or disrespect. But in a circle
    of close friends, she can sometimes behave uninhibitedly. She likes to fool
    around, to create unusual situations. She stirs people up to evoke positive
    emotions. At home she can be moody and capricious, stubbornly getting
    her way. She may even put on tears and provoke scandals. These emotional
    outbursts pass quickly, however, without hurting her very deeply. Her
    emotions are very flexible, switching on and off consciously. In dealing
    with money, she can be a spendthrift and cannot refuse herself anything,
    even going into debt if her own means are not enough. She loves a
    beautiful, lush life, and thus makes great demands. She is inclined to
    marriages of convenience. She likes to be cared for, to be healed and
    treated, for someone to listen to her complaints about her poor state of
    health, suffering, etc. She accumulates complaints about herself so that
    later when a good opportunity comes up, she can spill them out all at once.

    I. Command Function +T — Temporal Intuition


    In her behavior, she is guided by intuitive presentiments. Due to this
    quality, IEI is able to survive in the most difficult situations, as she
    quickly distinguishes artificiality, falsehood, hypocrisy, and degradation.
    IEI freely disposes of her own and others’ time. She always acts as if she
    has plenty of time to spare. Much is postponed for tomorrow, as she is a
    great dreamer and has a lyrical nature. The paintings that her imagination
    draws, vivid and bright, are much more attractive to her than everyday
    life. She believes in a good future. She calms people and gives them hope
    in phrases about quick changes for the better. She does not focus on the
    mistakes of the past.

    2. Realization Function —R — Relations Ethics

    IEI reinforces her attitude with actions. For loved ones, she will do a lot.
    She becomes enterprising if she feels she is gaining sympathy from others.
    She reliably performs her present duties only in a team with an established
    system of interpersonal relationships. She warns that personal enmity and
    disagreement will lead to the collapse of the business. She does everything
    she can to ensure that business relations are accompanied by favorable
    informal ties. She introduces a harmonizing force into the work collective.
    Capable of persuading people, she manages her relationships in such a way
    that the business turns to its advantageous side. She successfully uses
    acquaintances and personal charm.

    3. Role Function +S — Comfort Sensation

    Much effort is put into her appearance. She can dress elegantly and
    tastefully. Graceful, she pleases the eye with aesthetic movements. IEI is
    not intrusive and makes efforts to fit in with the habits and tastes of other
    people. She is very agreeable, yet, she complains to people about health,
    poor self-care, and indifference. Nevertheless, in extreme situations, she
    collects and suppresses the pain. She acquires confidence and strength in a
    comfortable environment with a familiar circle of acquaintances. In this
    case, she allows herself to lead.

    4. Triggering Function -L — Structural Logic

    When a situation is unclear and ambiguous, it spoils her mood, and she
    becomes confused. Chaos, lack of organization, and a lack of support cast
    her into despair. She acts with enthusiasm when relying on a thoughtful,
    logically adjusted plan with a clear ultimate goal. IEI appreciates schemes
    and technologies created by others. In extreme situations, she becomes
    cold-blooded: her brain works more clearly, making informed decisions
    more easily. Her mood is ruined by micromanagement and petty control. A
    constant firm discipline is not for her.

    5. Demonstrative Function +E — Emotional Ethics

    She is well-versed in the laws of the emotional lives of people. She is
    able to make requests at the right time (when a person is in
    a good mood), so it is difficult to refuse her. She reacts sensitively to the
    funny things in life and she loves humor. She jokes, fools around, and
    bothers people close to her, creating positive emotions in a variety of
    ways. She is peaceful and cannot tolerate quarrels between people who are
    close to her. She forgives easily and is willing to make sacrifices for the
    sake of remedying a conflict. She is inwardly anxious. IEI experiences a
    lot, but hides excitement and a bad mood behind a soft smile.

    6. Dual Function -F — Force Sensation

    IEI gets along with people who are strong, determined and selfconfident.
    However, she will not allow this to come to despotism. She
    openly declares the primitivity of dull power. She knows the amount of
    force to exert to achieve her goals; however, she decides to use forceful
    methods only when she feels a physical threat to herself or her relatives. If
    she is constantly in uncomfortable situations, she begins to behave in an
    emphatically rude and defiant manner. She does this in order to hide her
    mild, victimized character. Without firm leadership, she is relaxed and can
    lean toward disorder. She is easily knocked off of her path and can be
    seduced by something that promises pleasant sensations. She develops bad
    habits easily and abandons them only with the help of an external force.

    7. Braking Function +P — Business Logic


    She does not know how to save money or keep a strict accounting of her
    finances. She spends her money on beautiful, but not necessarily useful
    things. If she gets into financial difficulties, she knows who she can turn to
    for help; she may sell some of her possessions if necessary. Long-term
    relationships with her often include pragmatic calculations. Marriage of
    convenience is more attractive to her than a union for love. Relationships
    with those who make her work hard or work in a rhythm that is not
    characteristic of her are bad. Instead, she hopes for indulgence,
    forgiveness from bosses, and mini breaks during periods of hard work.

    8.Controlling Function -I — Opportunity Intuition


    IEI’s life values and ideals are one of her vulnerable points. She
    becomes very worried if time passes and compromises and concessions
    are delayed without finding a solution. She does not tolerate oppression or
    the leveling of abilities, both her own or those of the people around her.
    She lives by the principle of noninterference in the inner world of an
    individual, though she could offer valuable advice on the disclosure of
    abilities if allowed. She is very critical of her own abilities and often
    understates them, yet she is afraid to remain mediocre and unnoticed. She
    needs compliments and encouragement. She chooses the most promising
    ideas among those available and is always looking for an occupation that
    would correspond to her ideal of serving people.

    Recommendations for Self-Improvement

    Your forte is a developed intuitive perception that allows you to learn
    from the mistakes of the past in order to ensure a better future. You
    envision the future in optimistic terms. You are imaginative and romantic
    in nature, and enjoy the beauty and art in life. Your creative nature does
    not tolerate banality and mediocrity. You bring elements of elegance and
    originality into anything you do.
    You are well-versed in the attitudes of people and have a good sense of
    humor, knowing how to use it to improve your own mood and the moods
    of others. You possess a rich inner world of diverse impressions and
    feelings, and you’re very dependent on the nuances of your own inner
    states. You experience heightened, sublime emotions and tend to idealize
    people. You introduce aspects of celebration and sublimity into your
    surrounding world.
    Your main problem is that you find it difficult to regularly perform
    boring, everyday tasks of a purely material or pragmatic nature. You are
    usually not economical with your finances and have difficulty with
    housekeeping. You find it difficult to resist the temptation to purchase
    beautiful things, the cost of which may be beyond your budget. Be
    careful not to waste money on unnecessary trinkets: you are at risk of
    suffering financially.
    how more restraint in spending so as to not put yourself into a
    humiliating position that requires you to find ways to pay off debts, even
    selling your things. Don’t be tempted by your lofty visions and illusions of
    an “easy” life while ignoring moral considerations and attempting to avoid
    the daily grind. Let your sincere feelings guide you towards the right
    choice when you have to select between the material and the immaterial
    aspects of life.
    Your other problem is that you are not inclined to hide your frustrations
    and complaints from others; you may tire others with your complaining,
    making them question the sincerity of your sentiments. Refrain from
    making excessive demands of others or complaining about the lack of care
    in your relationships. To gain the attention and goodwill of others, try to
    temper some of the moodiness in your character.
    Be more generous and show active support for people. Try to earn good
    favor through diligence and hard work and by active participation in
    common affairs. Refrain from giving empty promises. Do not spend your
    free time in dreams, barren emotional conversations, or analyzing secret
    anxieties. If you devote more of your time to real concrete activities, your
    chances to succeed in life will increase significantly

    LOL idk how I ever thought I was IEI.. I mean I prefer to tough it out and endure hardship and I ain't gonna spend resources "for the soul", too thrifty for that.

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    @shotgunfingers Is the end of the H description missing or is it just that short? anyway, thanks : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatte View Post
    @shotgunfingers Is the end of the H description missing or is it just that short? anyway, thanks : )
    Its that short.

    I always get the feeling that Gulenko considers "H" to be an unhealthy state to get away from. I agree with that idea tbh. I have been working for a while on moving from H to C without even being conscious of what I'm doing for example.

    He noted it in my report:

    Subtype
    What can we say about his subtype? - The most probable subtype in DCNH system is the fourth one, i.e. harmonizing (H).
    This is evidenced, firstly, by his distantness (thoughtfulness, initial detachment, unwillingness to actively intervene in conflict situations) and, secondly, by the lesser orderliness of everyday life with a greater interest in change, rather than routine (initiality).
    Distantness combined with initiality just gives a harmonizing subtype. But it becomes clear from the interview that the respondent has changed significantly over time. He develops the qualities of contactness - more emotionality and sociability, as well as ease going. If these efforts are supported, for example, by friends, family, etc., it is possible over time to move to a creative subtype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Its that short.

    I always get the feeling that Gulenko considers "H" to be an unhealthy state to get away from. I agree with that idea tbh. I have been working for a while on moving from H to C without even being conscious of what I'm doing for example.

    He noted it in my report:

    Subtype
    What can we say about his subtype? - The most probable subtype in DCNH system is the fourth one, i.e. harmonizing (H).
    This is evidenced, firstly, by his distantness (thoughtfulness, initial detachment, unwillingness to actively intervene in conflict situations) and, secondly, by the lesser orderliness of everyday life with a greater interest in change, rather than routine (initiality).
    Distantness combined with initiality just gives a harmonizing subtype. But it becomes clear from the interview that the respondent has changed significantly over time. He develops the qualities of contactness - more emotionality and sociability, as well as ease going. If these efforts are supported, for example, by friends, family, etc., it is possible over time to move to a creative subtype.
    I've been searching for these subtype descriptions for other types, could you share a source if you have it please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frddy View Post
    I've been searching for these subtype descriptions for other types, could you share a source if you have it please?
    I'll PM you

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    I'll PM you
    Do you have the SEI descriptions with subtypes? I don't have G:s book but I know SEI subtypes pretty well from real life. Would be nice to see what he says.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Do you have the SEI descriptions with subtypes? I don't have G:s book but I know SEI subtypes pretty well from real life. Would be nice to see what he says.
    Dominant Subtype
    Mediator — Distributor


    Prototype: A convenient mediator helping people negotiate
    SEI leads an active lifestyle, although physical activity takes away a lot
    of strength. She is fond of nature and willingly takes on interesting
    work with enthusiasm, hoping to achieve concrete results with low labor
    input. She does not easily give up interests until she is satisfied. She
    systematizes her efforts to overcome obstacles.
    She desires to make the world better a place, so she thinks that
    everything should be in a sensible order, built on the consideration of the
    interests of each individual. SEI possesses skills in production,
    distribution of goods, and advertisement. She understands people’s real
    needs and knows her customers. She is able to become successful in
    marketing.
    She doesn’t take far-reaching initiatives, pursuing very specific shortrange
    goals instead. SEI has a good sense for knowing whom to contact
    and getting their business. Being attentive to situations, she may intervene
    in other people’s conversations. During illness or bad moods she retreats
    and lies down, waiting out the adversity. Setbacks with time tend to
    become unworthy of her attention.
    SEI passionately defends her ideas and beliefs. She describes events
    with detail, color, and artistic, active gestures, thereby reinforcing her
    words by telling a story. She never refuses to participate in comical events.
    SEI confidently shows her feelings and takes initiative in dealing with the
    opposite sex, but she can become pretty jealous of her chosen partner and
    does not forgive betrayal. Her benefits or merits are emphasized when
    given the appropriate opportunity.
    Welcoming to her friends, she loves to have everything beautifully
    cooked and served. She takes care of guests with high standards, so she
    spends a lot of energy on holidays. Therefore she does this rarely. SEI is
    adventurous in matters of comfort and relaxation, including activities
    involving travel or sporting events. Trying to raise others’ vitality, she
    pretends to resent their passivity and inactivity. If playful hints do not
    work, she becomes stern with words in order to get her desired reaction.
    SEI often becomes the soul of a small gathering that spends time
    together, especially if there are many relatives and friends. She knows

    howto cheer people up with humor, innuendos, and sometimes jokes; if
    she sees someone starting to get angry, she clarifies what looks like a bad
    joke to steer the conversation away from conflict.
    Due to her sociability and talkative nature, she has many acquaintances,
    but at heart she is happiest amongst close friends. SEI looks everywhere to
    find information about recent developments, fashions and hobbies. Where
    her emotions are, is where she tries to be.

    Creative Subtype
    Mediator — Composer


    Prototype: Pluralists able to unite opposing parties
    This subtype knows a lot about a variety of pleasures. She is able to
    enjoy herself without leaving others behind. She is a lively and inquisitive
    person who collects a variety of information and shares it willingly with
    others. She loves debating with others, animating the conversation, but
    handles aggressive people poorly. She can respond to rudeness with equal
    rudeness, but then spends a long time away from such stress. She is
    attentive to the mannerisms and behaviors of other people, assessing their
    talents and abilities as well as their possible use.
    SEI tries to avoid superiors, evading tedious business conversations.
    Usually, she does not criticize herself, nor does she criticize those around
    her. She is able to assert her independence while maintaining good
    relationships with everyone. Generally surprised when someone takes
    offense at her, she won’t make repeated attempts to get close to such a
    person. She never tries to change people since she understands the futility
    of such efforts. Rather, she opts to accept people as they are, integrating
    different personalities within whatever interesting task she may be part of.
    Sometimes overwhelmed by communication, she can become
    considerably overexcited. As a result of this, she finds herself relying
    on artificial methods of relaxation, such as drinking. She enjoys feasts,
    not so much because of the food, but because of the interesting memories
    and social conversations involved in such occasions.
    SEI is never jealous or mistrustful. Sometimes it’s hard to know when
    she is joking or serious. If she is let down, she may do the same in return.
    She finds it hard to spend a lot of time at home relaxing, so she may go
    hiking or try some bohemian activities. She is attracted to unusual people
    with unique hobbies and seeks intellectual or creative parties where she
    can talk informally with extraordinary people.
    SEI has a pronounced wave-like activity pattern guided by emotional
    impulse. She either puts all of her effort into something or sits it out,
    excluding herself. Quickly regaining her strength is not easy. Afterwards,
    she will wait for a new wave of inspiration, and so on until the next
    downturn.
    Good composers, SEI is able to combine various materials into a single
    comprehensive product: for example, in coordinating the logistics, supply,
    packaging and delivery of goods or the provision of complex services. The
    same characteristic also applies to her ability to unite diverse people in
    any practical activity, from choir singing to tourism trips. She is also
    characterized by combining various professional characteristics or places
    of work.

    Normalizing Subtype
    Mediator — Rallying


    Prototype: A caring parent, the center of the family’s communication
    Wherever she is, she is equally friendly and attentive. She is initially
    wary with strangers, keeping a distance until trust is established in the
    relationship. SEI avoids cold and arrogant people, preferring to create a
    harmonious and relaxed atmosphere. When agitated, her speech often
    becomes hurried and vague.
    She takes responsibility for whatever she is assigned and easily gets
    used to order. She copes well with routine chores when she feels they are
    necessary. At times, in order to separate work from personal relationships,
    she operates rigorously and strictly. She enjoys artsy things, mostly done
    with her own hands. In her territory, she tries to have everything organized
    properly. She strives for autonomy and self-sufficiency, only seeking help
    in extreme cases.
    SEI possesses the gift of calming and soothing those who oppose her.
    She knows how to be a patient listener, although ironically, she isn’t for
    the depressed or sorrowful. Often acting as a peacemaker, SEI persuades
    people to compromise. It is not easy for her to deny requests, so she
    behaves cautiously, occasionally alienating people; she is afraid of being
    clung to by people who might abuse her caring nature. It is difficult for her
    to understand what people expect from her. She tends to negotiate
    important issues on an informal basis and won’t air her “dirty laundry” in
    public.
    She is very affectionate and needs close relationships with people whose
    interests and needs fit with her life. She doesn’t quickly bond with new
    people, but once she does, she is able to maintain strong relationships. She
    greatly values those people who share her outlook on life. She loves it
    when the family gets together spontaneously and when there is a common
    topic of conversation. She appreciates when the young respect their elders.
    SEI knows how to persuade someone into particular affairs, but doesn’t
    always know what business is really profitable or promising. Therefore,
    she becomes wary of deadlines, which she blames for failures. She hides
    offenses, so as not to spoil an established relationship and is good at
    understanding the nuances in others’ emotional states.
    She comes to the aid of those in need of personal support, making her
    well-suited to service and social sectors. She knows how to make
    concessions and compromises and wants to make life peaceful and
    enjoyable for all those close to her.

    Harmonizing Subtype
    Mediator — Resolver


    Prototype: Aestheticist living by the rule of the golden mean
    This is a person who know how to relax and indulge in the range of
    sensations, possessing very sensitive tastes. Other people are treated
    attentively and thoughtfully, especially her loved ones. This is her
    speciality, though she does show obvious displeasure when she lose her
    sense of peace. At such moments she can he quite indignant and harsh.
    Normally she is always soft and charming in every way, preserving her
    peace of mind and harmony with the surrounding world. SEI dislikes
    drawing attention to her troubles and failures. When in need of assistance,
    she resorts only to those close to her or to knowledgeable experts. By
    nature, she is secretive and vulnerable, trying not to burden her friends
    because she knows how unpleasant it is. She never demands attention if
    she feels it is not warranted. However, she will respond to others’ calls for
    help.
    She loves nature and beauty in its natural manifestation, having a good
    visual memory to paint from, as well as tastes and tactile sensations. SEI
    acutely experiences situations minute-by-minute. She expresses her subtle
    perception of the world in products made by her own hands. Everything
    she does is done by the heart, with taste. She doesn’t dress in flashy attire
    and isn’t into trends, preferring only clothes which are hers by style and
    taste. She loves a variety of original jewelry and accessories, such as
    watches that blend with her clothes. She pays a lot of attention to the
    issues of eveiyday life. The best professions for her abilities are in areas
    such as painting, decorating, designing, etc.
    SEI won’t compete or force others to do anything against their will.
    Therefore she is not interested in leadership careers. At times she may
    give the impression of a passive or inert person. This is due to the fact that
    she sees no point in needless fussing and wasting effort. Thanks to this
    trait, she occasionally has a reputation as a talented bum, going through
    life contemplatively and endlessly waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Its that short.

    I always get the feeling that Gulenko considers "H" to be an unhealthy state to get away from. I agree with that idea tbh. I have been working for a while on moving from H to C without even being conscious of what I'm doing for example.
    Stuck in a rut subtype. Consistent with all 16 of H's. Probably in much higher need for mobilizing than others (as recipient not in terms of producing necessarily).
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    @shotgunfingers

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

    I didn't see anything like what you posted online anywhere!

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    heh IEIs sound like better duals to me than EIE. At least they won't fuss about spending too much on quality, prefer to fix problems than to flip out and start drama and have that creative Fe I seem to like+Ni which is never boring. Also not Si PolR, which is awesome. With EIEs I always get this sense that I'd have to leash then and keep them in line e_e.. annoying.
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    ::feels activator-y vibes from this:: No homo. Er wait... I mean specifically no homo vibes to you but I mean I liked that.

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    My experience with most LSIs (well I have more experince with LSI females) is that they will kind of be very distrustful of me at first and be annoyed with me but then grow to really like me- so I think it is like duality in the sense it probably needs to grow over time. The psychology is compatible but it can be awkward knowing how to communicate with each other with the T and F thing.

    I like LSI's cognitive empathy advice, because I'm much better at affective empathy & my cognitive empathy tends to be in the toilet. Also Gulekno says that IEI's don't like to pry into other people's thinking processes like that, and it's true to me. I can play Hannibal with people like that but it's weird and awkward for me. I am kind of too selfishly paying attention to my own thinking then really thinking about other people's logic. I'm more like 'ooh I can really feel this person's hate/love/jealousy/sadness/whatever.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGF View Post
    Dominant Subtype

    Lyrist — Mocker

    ...

    Sensing danger, her anxious mood spreads. At the same
    time, she doesn’t lose faith in winning. She may even reassure the
    discouraged, giving them an emotional boost. She closely associates moral
    anguish with physical suffering.

    She never backs down when faced with sudden aggression or tension. In
    extreme situations, she inspires admiration or surprises others with her
    fearlessness in the face of danger. She never gives in to forceful pressure
    and is able to stand her ground.

    ...
    I actually wonder a bit what the bolded sentence means.. hm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGF View Post
    Creative Subtype

    Lyrist — Excited

    Prototype: Admirer of rare phenomena or unusual behaviors able to
    reflect and direct their feelings into creative products
    This subtype is emotional, charming, and sociable. She easily and
    naturally makes contact with people, although it is difficult for her to keep
    herself constantly in high spirits. Her gifts are spontaneity,
    sincerity, and cordiality. Figuratively, and with subtle humor, she talks
    about her experiences and what she has seen. She knows how to lighten the
    mood around her, discussing unusual situations and stories.
    She does not tolerate routine and monotony well, and she dislikes
    stereotypical expectations and strict rules. She cannot submit to
    regulations and instructions and is prone to impromptu and improvised
    actions. She chooses an opportune moment to suddenly attract attention.
    She willingly gives compliments, especially to those considered
    authorities. Her requests are laid out in such a manner that makes it
    difficult to refuse.
    Well-versed in the feelings and moods of people, she is able to find an
    individual approach for each person. Using her ability to inspire
    confidence, she forges useful contacts to achieve her goals and finds the
    most appropriate players available. It happens that successes occur in
    those instances where she is motivated by a strong desire and favorable
    circumstances.
    She permits an “artistic” mess in her apartment or workplace. She
    hardly considers economical and sober approaches to her affairs, yet in
    extreme situations she can be quite adventurous.
    She is graceful and gentle in motion and strives to express herself
    through clothes, but she won’t cross the line separating originality from
    vulgarity. She demonstrates sophistication in her specific manner of
    communication, from which she draws the attention of others.
    I'm not sure how much stock I put in DCNH subtypes at this point, but thanks for the descriptions, SGF. Going off of this I the creative subtype fits me perfectly!
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