Yeah like Marx. Have you read some of his stuff? The man hated God with a passion kekw. funny he actually ended up causing the death of a lot of Christians..
I also met this guy on the INTP forums ^^' he hated religion and God with so much passion I had to grab him by the shoulder and tell him he must be a feeler or some shit..
Eliza, you just shared bullshit. Please delete it. You're scaring people and spreading untruths.
"Watson was wrong about his broad claim, but he was correct about links from Biblehub.com being banned.
Facebook does not censor Bible passages or posts with religious content. However, links to Biblehub.com were banned and prohibited from being posted.
After Newsweek reached out about the issue, Facebook stated it was in error and corrected it." https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...ssages-1565190
IF someone puts bible verses on a shitty website, it makes sense the shitty website being blocked might be seen as the bible being blocked. IT WAS NOT, though.
I'm not a believer, saying god and godess do not exist make no sense, because we have no proof to prove it. If you say gods do not exist, you are no different than those "believer".
As I said, I value practical knowledge, so I ll keep my doubt about everything. No knowledge is absolutely right, but still I can use some knowledge that have the highest chance that its right or closest to the truth, so I can make profit from it.
I don't mess with Gods because I don't like the idea worshiping them (like a pitiful slave), it's a personal taste.
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ok I'll be srs for a sec. Imo there is something to panpsychism. If ppl are familiar with Brahman in Hinduism, same idea. I think people have a deep need for religion and its not a good idea to take it away from them. People however do a lot of harm in the name of something else, often its religion. Christianity isn't as bad as ppl make it out to be. Case in point: atheist communists for example banned religion at the time and killed ppl for having faith. Same shit as killing in the name of a God. >) just need a good excuse.
Someone doesn't know about Ti and metaphysics.. oopsies..
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Sometimes I have thoughts during meditative prayer that I have to interrupt myself to write down. What?
I was only wondering if there was a venn diagram somewhere with "guns don't kill, people do" and "religion doesn't kill, people do." I think it sounds like an overall psychological bent toward a certain outlook maybe? Not making any particular point.
And um, yeah? I think about this while meditating, so what? I try my best bbl
Ti is metaphysics, especially if paired with intuition. To prefer thinking that is pragmatic and rooted in experience is Te. Ti is concerned with the structure of reality, Te with the object's information.
A lot of ppl who I have met who were LSI or LII were all religious in some way.. and had convoluted explanations as to why. I assume this is due to being Ti lead.
To absolutely require empirical evidence is either Te preference or Moharu is parroting standard atheist lines without much research into what ppl thought about the subject.. (¬‿¬)
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From my experience (maybe wrong), the alpha NTs I've known don't have the same point of view of religion like the others do. They can have a "metaphysics" point of view, but it doesn't need to be a religion, a god to worship. They forcus on exploring and understanding the structure of the world rather than "worship" something. And their Ne is weird, the way they see things is, even if it is a god .... I don't known how to describe...
And they, with their logic and crazy Ne, are very hard to counter. If I have to say what type I feel like the most intelligent, it would be alpha NTs.
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I'm barely paying attention to this thread, but the way religion is being discussed as existing in different spheres- ie the (super)natural impulse being expressed in alternative ways, like politics, consumerism, etc. Is an interesting subject. And I wish you guys were henpecking about it more. I know there is disagreement and I'd like to suggest a new thread (:
yea when people think of "worshipping" they automatically associate that with "religion" and "worshipping some God," but I think that's a superficial way of looking at things.
I think at the end of the day we all worship something (either knowingly or unknowingly); some non-religious philosophy we adhere to, superficial things like money, hedonism, etc
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
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"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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Scientific evidenced based reasoning is insufficient when dealing with anything which isn't strictly science.
Is pragmatic action in complex environments simply just superstition? Since one can't sensibly get all the data necessary to make decision before it has to be made.
ἀταραξία
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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I probably was too harsh in this thread so I apologize if I offended anybody - but I have a bad personal experience with crazy religious people treating me like a horrible person when I know I'm not. Well I am bad in some ways- but not as bad as they were making me out to be and I was a sensitive kid then and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean really, I hate that "Christian" cunt who treated me like I was a sex offender just cuz I simply said I had a crush on a boy my own age when I was 16 years old and I was NOT being pervy with her or anything like that, I promise. I was very nice about it and she still treated me like shit. I should forgive her, but I'd rather just pretend to beat her up in a story to deal with it.
It can't be said enough times , those who act like they are the most righteous are most often the most awful.
The ones that aren't like this was NOT enough for me to over come the bad I experienced. But again I'm sorry if I was harsh because I know my language can be kind of too brutal at times. I realize there is beauty in religion for a lot of people- but scapegoating and demonizing 'my people' to get that, I won't fucking tolerate that!
If you think suffering is good, then to me, it is difficult to see how you could consider anything bad.
I don't think I could ever trust a person who thinks that suffering is good and who not only does not have their own self-preservation at heart but does not have the self-preservation of others at heart either.
I'd prefer to learn without suffering, personally.
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
If action isn't based on evidence, I don't see how it can be pragmatic. You could be doing more harm than good.
I'm not sure what you mean by "complex environments". Religion is superstition because it involves belief in something which has properties that cannot be observed.
It's one thing to act in relation to something that can be observed, and quite another thing to act in relation to something which doesn't have any property that can be observed. But in both cases, it is possible to act without evidence.
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Seeing the good reasons for the suffering you have endured and not having self-preservation at heart are incompatible. If you encountered suffering because of low self-preservation repeatedly, you obviously hadn't been learning anything, therefore there was no growth, and little to appreciate.
In my view, if suffering, pain etc. has a purpose, it is to encourage you to take steps to prevent the things causing the suffering/pain. The suffering itself is not good - it is only because there are other things that are sometimes worse that it has utility. Hence why I say "Christianity is a slave cult devoted to a selfish being who is capable of preventing suffering but chooses not to."
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
In terms of type, some types were created more dispositioned to be flame fodder:
https://www.16personalities.com/arti...rsonality-type
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
u are a failure and a disappointment. u are a loser. u probably wear crocs. u are also a coward, an absolute embarrassment and just a parasite to those with different beliefs. a deluded dirty car salesman with a frail ego really. i've exposed u and i hope people recognize these scumbag tactics that this forum full of narcs use.
from this moment on, anything you say is just garbage to me. everyone you pollute in ur alternative world will realize the garbage u are and leave u in the trash bin like a prom dumpster baby.
that or u get chained to a rock and vultures eat ur liver.
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