This is what I meant when I said transgender people merely conform to typical gender norms in an inverse way.


Yeah I almost see it as a conservative thing in a sense because they are often adhering to what most heterosexual normative society thinks of as manly vs not manly etc. It is not at all really a breaking of boundaries of what men and women can do based on our genders/biological sex but a complete acceptance of them. Maybe there are trans people that aren't like this- but this is definitely how it's portrayed in the media and what I got from 'the movement's' message.

But the fight for 'GLBT rights' has almost always been a very conservative Delta-ish thing when you think about it. The right to get married, the right to serve in the military, the right to be as assholeish as any 'straight guy' - these are all very right-wing things. The right to be a sex hound was a bit more liberal, but all that got was a negative reputation because of the AIDS and disease thing, and rightfully so. "Radical genderqueers" are made fun of in both sides of the aisle and not respected in a political sense. But even the mild genderqueer people aren't respected as it's just viewed on the road to being rainbow radical. It's like being 'a little bit retarded.' The dominant message is, you can be different- as long as you're trying to be the same.

I only wanted the right to be myself without being bullied so much, I don't care about being equal to that heteronormative conservative crap. Kind of ironic but I don't feel unmanly at all even though I am so stereotypically unmanly in many ways according to straight society lol. Delta SJWisms never really worked for me because I never wanted to be included in something straight- I truly like being GAY or QUEER - as in being different. Gays accepted in the heterosexual framework of life- mehhh. That makes me vomit kind of. Gays and straights aren't 'equal.' If we were equal- there would be no straight or gay to begin with. So I kinda hate that saying. But some people think that if you don't think you're 'equal' to something- that means you intrinsically think that you are either below or above that thing which is not true as people aren't 2nd grade math problems. I can peacefully co-exist around straight people, and I don't think it's a better or worse thing (gahh Delta Fi valuers...) - but I'm not EQUAL to them.

Now I have the option to marry, or serve in the military - or be a conservative gay man if I wanted to but I don't want any of those things.... so I can't feel that empowered if we 'won' some conservative battle that only affected a Delta ST gay man and not me. Forgive me that I can't get all thrilled about that shit. But anyway sorry for going off topic as this thread is about trans not gay guys.