How do I determine if I'm LII or ILI

[Outlier]

I don't known if the other ILIs are the same

I am the same.

[squark]

For typing seriously - rational vs irrational and quadra

Now for some unserious typing:
Years ago, if my memory serves, you mentioned that you thought Jim and Pam from the Office were a kind of ideal relationship. I hadn't watched the Office at that point, so it meant nothing to me. I have since, and they're very cute, Fe, alpha sorts. Silly pranksters, not Gamma business folks. And Adam thought your comment was "dickish" and well, ahem, Fi quadras sometimes take things a bit too seriously imo and believe things are rude or "dickish" when they're just normal. Your comment was fine.

Disregard the Jim and Pam comment if you never actually said anything of the sort and I just imagined it. But I still think you're Fe>Fi.

[The Internationale]

Your Fe is just way too noticeable and good to be ILI, sorry man. I think in a way you are like envious of the 'Gamma Bite' but don't be. Accept your Fe softness and wear it with pride.

I wish I had the "gamma bite" when I'm doing political action. I end up being kind of weak. Hopefully I'll attract some tough people into the organization soon.

[Adam Strange]

For typing seriously - rational vs irrational and quadra

Now for some unserious typing:
Years ago, if my memory serves, you mentioned that you thought Jim and Pam from the Office were a kind of ideal relationship. I hadn't watched the Office at that point, so it meant nothing to me. I have since, and they're very cute, Fe, alpha sorts. Silly pranksters, not Gamma business folks. And Adam thought your comment was "dickish" and well, ahem, Fi quadras sometimes take things a bit too seriously imo and believe things are rude or "dickish" when they're just normal. Your comment was fine.

Disregard the Jim and Pam comment if you never actually said anything of the sort and I just imagined it. But I still think you're Fe>Fi.

@squark, I don't actually believe that ILI's being "dickish" is a bad thing. I mean, it doesn't bother me because I realize that they are mainly filtering for SEE's, for whom this doesn't bother, either, and this behavior generally keeps them out of bad intertype relationships, which is something that I could use more of myself.

[squark]

@squark, I don't actually believe that ILI's being "dickish" is a bad thing. I mean, it doesn't bother me because I realize that they are mainly filtering for SEE's, for whom this doesn't bother, either, and this behavior generally keeps them out of bad intertype relationships, which is something that I could use more of myself.

Point was that he wasn't dickish imo, even though you insist on calling him that. It's subjective. Not everyone agrees with your estimation.

[BandD]

What he said about SEE and ILI duals was also not true and putting waaaay too much of a pretty ribbon on the entire 'dual' thing. I've seen SEEs get upset at ILI before if they are too dickish. If somebody does something the other finds 'dickish' it's going to be a turn off/off-putting no matter how much "duals" you are.

I suppose it might be safe to say that generally speaking - you might find other people maximizing/catastrophizing your dual's dickish behavior in ways you feel unfair and call them out on that. I think that's a more accurate thing to say. Growing up I thought people were taking some of what SLE did too seriously and trying to punish them too much to virtue signal and look morally superior- but I also couldn't really deny that a lot of it *was* in fact, dick ish.

[Alomoes]

Strong convictions are reason to be skeptical.
Just be prepared for someone to talk out of their convictions, and essentially say nothing. I see it all the time.

For example, calling someone dickish...