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    Default Peter Nygård

    He has been in the news recently

    When I saw his smile I immediately thought LIE.

    His subtype is not really clear to me. Creative?

    The way he talks reminds me a little of Arnold Schwarzenegger (whom I also type LIE).





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    Definitely a strange person with some Te flair.

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    Peter Nygård - ESFP Napoleon



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    *** bump ***

    Could I have some more opinions, please. So far we have LIE and SEE
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    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Seems like classical story LIE.
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    SLI-Te Ni-Harmonizing sx/so

    Offbeat look, talking about progress, humanitarian project is about (stemcell) research instead of actual here-and-now help indicates Ne valuing instead of Se valuing
    "I reverted my aging by taking stemcells" = seems like he doesn't understand he'll die one day = sp-last

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post
    SLI-Te Ni-Harmonizing sx/so

    Offbeat look, talking about progress, humanitarian project is about (stemcell) research instead of actual here-and-now help indicates Ne valuing instead of Se valuing
    "I reverted my aging by taking stemcells" = seems like he doesn't understand he'll die one day = sp-last

    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post
    SLI-Te Ni-Harmonizing sx/so

    Offbeat look, talking about progress, humanitarian project is about (stemcell) research instead of actual here-and-now help indicates Ne valuing instead of Se valuing
    "I reverted my aging by taking stemcells" = seems like he doesn't understand he'll die one day = sp-last
    How can a Te sub be harmonizing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    How can a Te sub be harmonizing?
    I never do 2 subtype theory but contact/inert theory instead. So when I say Te subtype for SLI, then it means boosted contact functions Te, Ti, Ne & Ni, not just Te.

    In DCNH, there are 2 types of Harmonizers, Ni or Si:



    He looks creative subtype but I think it has more to do with his instinctual stacking which I think is sx/so. The dude looks connecting, initial & distant when looking at the DCNH dichotomies.

    EDIT: I realized I didn't completely answer your question. Harmonizers have, according to Gulenko, fixated Si & Ni, and emphasized Polr, here Fe. However DCNH fixation isn't the same as "boosting" of model A functions. Boosting means increased processing power and flow of information. Fixation means having strong views on how a function has to be used, but it doesn't mean you're "better" at processing information on those aspects. For example, normalizers have strong views on how to behave correctly(fixated functions are responsible for "behavioural regulations" : Ti & Fi), but normalizing Ejs aren't that good at determining what's "correct".
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post

    Hey, I made that chart It seems to have drifted off on the internet.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Hey, I made that chart It seems to have drifted off on the internet.
    haha so nice! I use your knowledge to convince people

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    Isn't he the typical robber baron? Also known as LIE dominant. It materialized in fashion sphere so it makes him just bit more flashy compared to the regular robber baron.From Gulenko's description LIE creative tends to be fatter and look like a child while being driven towards more esoteric fields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007 View Post
    Isn't he the typical robber baron? Also known as LIE dominant. It materialized in fashion sphere so it makes him just bit more flashy compared to the regular robber baron.From Gulenko's description LIE creative tends to be fatter and look like a child while being driven towards more esoteric fields.
    Yes. I can totally see LIE-D. He just seemed like slightly C also. But the LIE-Cs I've met are more "in the head" than he is.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    LIE

    Peter's overall energy is high and projecting outwards, like he's trying to communicate to the audience his plans to make the world a better place. Head nods/shakes byproducts of speech.(EJ)

    Doesn't give off an impression of EP (animated) or IP (stillness)

    Te is apparent in speech, lacks warmth of an Fe

    Optimistic. Visionary. Eccentric in clothing/appearance. Embracing technology into the future (Ni > Si)
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    LIE. I agree with your schwarzenegger typing tallmo
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    I don’t know many LIEs, but I think it’s correct.

    His way of talking and the way he carries himself reminds me of EIEs’, actually, likely because of the factors @Petersononfireee mentioned. But he’s obviously not an Fe base.

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