Francisco Franco

[CuriousSoul]

"Our regime is based on bayonets and blood, not on hypocritical elections."
Francisco Franco Bahamonde

What was his type?
I get gamma vibes from him, so is INTP possible, or ISFJ maybe?

More pictures for VI:

[implied]

i get gamma vibes, too.

[FDG]

ESTp, pretty obvious.

[Dioklecian]

I knew a guy from Kurdistan that looks like that. He was very militantly political.

[Dioklecian]

[Dioklecian]

[Dioklecian]

[Dioklecian]

Check out the priest with the ****** salute:

[Dioklecian]

[Dioklecian]

How about these possibilities:

ISTP

ENFP

ENFJ

ISTJ

ESFP

[implied]

not ESFp, at least i don't think.

[Expat]

Some videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ury2tN6P5T4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAm0UepX8s


I'm not sure, either from his life or from VI.

ESTp or ISTj.

[CuriousSoul]

How about these possibilities:

ISTP

ENFP

ENFJ

ISTJ

ESFP

Well, socionics theory says Beta and Delta are the autocratic quadras...
Or is it just VI again?

In this picture he looks much like my (late) ISTP grandma:



His "definitive" biography by Paul Preston sheds light on his world view:


"Despite fierce discipline in other matters, no limits were put by Millin
Astray or by Franco on the atrocities which were committed against the Moorish
villages which they attacked. The decapitation of prisoners and the exhibition of
severed heads as trophies was not uncommon. The Duquesa de la Victoria, a
philanthropist who organized a team of volunteer nurses, would receive in 1922
a tribute from the Legion. She was given a basket of roses in the center of which
lay two severed Moorish heads.[84] When the Dictator General Prime de Rivera
visited Morocco in 1926, he was appalled to find one battalion of the Legion
awaiting inspection with heads stuck on their bayonets.[85] Indeed, Franco and
other officers came to feel a fierce pride in the brutal violence of their men,
reveling in their grim reputation. That notoriety was itself a useful weapon in
keeping down the colonial population and its efficacy taught Franco much about
the exemplary function of terror. In his Diario de zona bandera, he adopted a
tone of benevolent paternalism about the savage antics of his men. In Africa, as
later in the Peninsula during the Civil War, he condoned the killing and
mutilation of prisoners."{29}



Even the Catholic Basques were not spared by Franco:

"With the Nationalist forces inexorably marching westwards, the Basques finally
agreed to surrender to the Italians at Santona to the east of Santander on 26
August, 1948. In accordance with the agreement made, Basque political
personalities embarked on two British ships, the SS Seven Seas Spray and the
SS Bobie, under Italian protection. On 27 August, with Nationalist warships
blockading the port, on Franco's orders, Divila told the Italians to disembark the
refugees, which they refused to do, although they advised the Basques to go
ashore. The prisoners were held by the Italians for four days but, on 31 August,
Franco ordered Bastico to hand them over. He hesitated and only after
assurances from Barroso that the surrender conditions would be respected did
he relinquish the captives on 4 September. Summary trials began at once and
hundreds of death sentences were passed. The Italians were appalled by
Franco's duplicity and cruelty. Bastico sent Roatta to Salamanca to plead with
Franco to stop the executions and allow the Basque leaders to leave the country.
Roatta reminded the Caudillo that the Basques had surrendered after being
offered such terms and pointed out that Italian honour was at stake. The
Generalisimo simply ignored his arguments."{285}
http://www.mcn.org/e/iii/franco.htm

[Rick]

Some videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ury2tN6P5T4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAm0UepX8s


I'm not sure, either from his life or from VI.

ESTp or ISTj.

I have some doubts about SLE, because he seems a bit too calm and dispassionate and not physically dynamic enough. Perhaps LSI? Anyone know about his relationship with ******, out of curiosity?

[CuriousSoul]

Anyone know about his relationship with ******, out of curiosity?

[img]http://www.triangles-roses.org/franco_******.jpg[/img]

Well, this incident is often cited:

World War II
England, France, and the United States recognized Franco's Goverment in 1939. Subsequently, Franco joined Germany, Italy, and Japan in an anti-Comintern Pact. When World War II was launched by the Germans, Spain declared neutrality. After the fall of France in 1940, Franco declared non-beligerant status. Franco was, however, one of the few European leaders at the time to defy ******. Franco refused to allow German forces to seize Gibralter. ****** was furious, understandably as it was German aid that made Franco's victory possible. German inteligence chief Admiral Canaris who was apauled at what ****** was doing in Poland was sent to Franco to arrange for passage of German troops. Canaris was on close terms with Franco, having worked with him during the Civil War and actually convinced him to refuse ******. (Explaining that the Wehrmacht was preparing and attack on Russia and could not be diverted by an attack on Spain.) ****** took the unpresidented step of traveling to Spain to personally persuade Franco to join the War. Franco was unconvinced. Afterwards ****** was to say it was one of the most painful experiences of his life, he would prefer to have had a tooth pulled. While Franco did not officially joint ****** in the attack on the Soviet Union in 1941, he did contribute one division of "volunteers"--the Blue Division. Subsequently when the War began to go against the Germans, Franco returned to a neutral policy.
http://histclo.com/youth/youth/org/nat/spa/natsp.htm

Having quoted that statement, I do not think Franco and ****** had a personal relationship, where the intertype relations would have truly come to play.

[Expat]

Well, socionics theory says Beta and Delta are the autocratic quadras...

Do you mean Aristocratic?

[CuriousSoul]

Yes, I thought they were pretty much the same concepts - correct me if I am wrong. Anyway there are many different theories in socionics that do not always seem to be fully compatible with each other.

[Dauphin]

ESI

[flames]

LSI

[Marep]

SEI

[Dauphin]

SEI

There's as much a chance of an SEI becoming a dictator as there is a chance of me owning a purple camel.

[khcs]

Francisco Franco - INTP - Balzac

[Disturbed]

Probably LSI-Se, albeit a VERY intolerant and moralistic one (although many LSI are moralistic). SLE less likely because they're not moralistic and religious and disturbed by people of different ethnicities quite like Franco was. He was also said to be calm and methodical, didn't seem like he did much for fun like SLE generally would. If he were an SLE, then he probably would've been impressionable enough to join the communists and republican forces.

ESI-Se can be quite moralistic and violent against innocent people (think Wilson) but wouldn't be intolerant of people in the way Franco was. Gamma unlikely, he was too aristocratic. Too conservative to be an Alpha, and stronger internally than Deltas.

[Marep]

SEI 6w5

[Sol]

INTP


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