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    What is the difference between Fe HA/Fi PoLR of ILE versus SLE?
    What is the difference between SEI and IEI's covering of their duals' PoLR?

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    Good question. Let's consult the book. I picked out the Fi part of Gulenko's descriptions on the wiki.

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    "The main problem of your life - the lack of tact and diplomacy in dealing with people. Sometimes you openly demonstrate intolerance of other people's shortcomings and weaknesses. To achieve your goals sometimes you can step over the interests of other people, which can evoke negative evaluations and moral judgment of others in your address.

    Remember that the formula of "the end justifies the means" is not always true. Cultivate tolerance, and respect the dignity and feelings of others. A deep study of philosophies and religions where human values are advocated and justified will help you to better understand the essence of man. Cultivate in yourself polite and proper manners."


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    "Once you have intuitively figured out a person, he or she is no longer interesting for you. You don't know what to do with this person next. This can work to make people dislike you. You also don't see your true enemies and opposition. Try not to jump to conclusions in your assessment of people around you. To make such assessments, try to orient yourself by people's objective, observable actions. Then you will be able to figure out the people who are unfriendly, antagonistic, and unsympathetic towards yourself.

    You have a difficulty establishing stable, positive relations with people who are close to you. You can accidentally be tactless and disrupt the established harmonious relations. Try to hold back on your immediate reaction towards the various statements or actions of a person who is close and dear to you."
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    Basically, SLE is like a barking dog. ILE is like a raving lunatic. Dr. Chaos would whip out a stun gun and stun gun his friends for the hell of it, and that sounds like something ILE would do. I'd consider it, and then muse on how people actually do such things.

    That's why the advice for ILE is to not say what they can until they thought it through, and it's good advice. They're very good at thinking things through, better than I am.
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    The thing with being watchful of people is like saying: you're going to stab me. I find this attitude non-constructive and very primitive.
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    no differences in Socionics
    only baseless heresies

    There can be influence on the related behavior of _other_ functions. Alike SEI may use tasty food (Si) to try improve relations/emotional situation (Fi) of ILE with her and other people.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007 View Post
    The thing with being watchful of people is like saying: you're going to stab me. I find this attitude non-constructive and very primitive.
    If you're afraid and suspicious, people can sense it and won't find your company enjoyable and think you're hiding something. Just don't be.

    We're just humans, we all do stupid stuff that hurts people, even the ones we love. That's the human condition, you can't prevent it; it will happen some time or another.
    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    personal anecdotes and observations are welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatte View Post
    personal anecdotes and observations are welcome
    Marshawn Lynch is a good example of extreme Fi PoLR.

    Fi PoLR - unclear relations/ethical situation
    Fe Ha - show each other how we feel outwardly, good or bad energy can escalate or deescalete the situation
    Se - willing to force your hand right now
    T - direct, putting the situation in order over being considerate

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    Some background because the video is hectic.
    American football player invites kids to who want to be future pro running backs, to come train with him at his camp. This woman's kid was about to get run over not paying attention and Marshawn cussed at him to get back to the sidelines. The kids mom gets upset and starts stirring shit with the other moms in the stands. Marshawn catches wind of it, runs up the stadium steps to clear up the situation and keep her from starting drama on him behind his back. She confronts him about his his language etc, Marshawn sees people filming and he doubles down and goes extra non-PC to show her she isn't going to be able hold her feelings over him in his camp.



    I wonder if she may be EIE or SEE. I think part of her enjoyed that.

    He tells some Fi PoLR stories at the beginning and around 6min in



    He talks about his distrust of the media acting nice to his face and talking shit behind his back. YouTube his press conferences.




    IEI cover Fi PoLR way ahead of time, just talking about what people are uptight about, how they deal with people, who gives them shady vibes, what to look out for etc.

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