Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
There's no point in discussing this further. If you honestly expect me to believe you really think thatall neurologic and psychologic debilities can be patched up by "rewiring" with self-talk, you must be too sheltered from the extreme bleeding edges of the human condition to be ready for a conversation. "Evewyone can be good if we just give them a chance uwu!", no they can't, any real rehabilitator would be harshly aware that lost causes are a thing.

Any person who is half of the things you claim to be would be well aware of lost causes, and would never indulge in this aggressive naivety you insist upon shoving down people's throats.
I have a background in behavioral psychology, have studied psychology, and have had mental health conditions treated. You used a logical fallacy called "all true Scots"....it goes something like this, 'My point is true because anyone who was a real specialist would say it was true.' .....that's not an actually sound point that could rationally convince us. It might be a tenuous belief, but it's not reasonable.

Yes, I've also worked as part of a treatment team for people with profound cognitive and or behavioral conditions (including Dark Tetrad traits).

I propound over and over that people (virtually ALL people) have the capacity for great evil, YES that little girl. YES, that human aid worker. YES, that religious worker. YES, that nice Jewish gay boy. YES, that cop. YES, virtually everyone has the capacity for PROFOUNDLY EVIL ACTS.

People get weirded out when I say that, but virtually anyone can rape, murder, and torture.


I'm probably the anti-thesis of what you call me on this issue (naive).

Extensive, hard science, real world, peer-reviewed research IN CONCERT with my own work in the field is why I point out the hope.

I'm not having a WISH.

I'm not sitting down in defeat because I've gone through some hard things like you seem to have and losing hope.

I'm just referencing the actual scientific literature findings which together with my actual hands-on experience as both a member of a treatment team for clients and as a client, myself, indicate that there are ways forward.

If you're not ready to hope yet, don't demean and throw your poop at those of us actually doing the work.