Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
Literally this whole conversation was me trying to explain why you should stop trying to get what you can't get, so yeah, no shit no one deserves anything.
Pretty sure that your error here is about conflating "getting a girl" with "locking a girl up".

If you think that a "normal" desire of wanting to "get a girl" somehow turns into wanting to "lock a girl up" because you can't manage to keep them around for long enough or something, then I'd find that to be dubious. Even so, that seems to be more about having insecurities about somebody leaving you or something, and so you'd have to resort to force and violence. So it has nothing to do with the "normal" desire of wanting to "get a girl", rather it has more to do with 1) personal insecurities and 2) lack of conscience (and hence sociopathic desires). The insecurity here is about prioritizing your own anxieties over the other person, so this has to do with some kind of extreme self-centered thinking. Of course there is the perspective that lacks any kind of moral thinking that doesn't even make sense, such as that you personally fear the consequence of being locked up, but you still want to lock another person up. It's a failure of even the bare minimum of "the golden rule".

Even if you're unable to "get a girl", that doesn't somehow turn into "wanting to lock a girl up". The latter is simply about lacking a moral or conscientious perspective, and hence it's sociopathic. It'd be like admitting that you're a sociopath.

I think that my point here is to "have a moral perspective that counteracts immoral desires or actions". Your argument is that an otherwise "normal" or "healthy" desire turned into the extremes will morph into an evil desire. Well perhaps, but even so there's no excuse to oppose it from a moral perspective. If you lack it, then you are simply anti-social and sociopathic. It'll also start to create some obvious contradictions, such as that you personally fear the consequence of being locked up, but you'd still want to lock up another person.

Most people have some form of "evil" desires, but they don't act on them because they oppose it from a moral perspective. If you think that your suppression of wanting to "lock a girl up" is extremely difficult and self-sacrificial, then you're simply doing what most people do on a daily basis. Ok, then you'd go on about how you're "not normal". Perhaps. But this all just seems like some kind of extreme self-pitying at its core.

Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
Nah, if you have sexual activity then you'll want to do it again and again. It's literally addictive. How far that addiction takes you or doesn't take you depends solely on your ability to discipline yourself.

Sexual crimes just result from an uncontrolled sexual appetite. People who can control this appetite can allow other people's consent and agency to trump this appetite, but the fringe cases who fly off the handle simply lack the self-control to let a no be no, and choose instead to physically overpower people.

The outcomes are different for different psyches, but at bottom, the primal instinct is the same: it's a hunger. All lust is a rape waiting to happen. There is no "good" lust.

Just like normal hunger exaggerated to a ridiculous degree will make you a cannibal
Then maybe you should tell, why the vast majority of women do not rape. Maybe here is one reason: perhaps it's about not objectifying the other person.