Quote Originally Posted by qaz00 View Post
When a system is created on doubtful fundamentals, does it really matter if you use a simple version of it (horoscopes) or advanced, with more elements?
For me it's important, because it means your criticism of it only reaches the surface level. If I would criticize something, it should be something I would have to know completely. In a way criticism is just an entryway to realize what's real, because you can learn from other people's mistakes. Some types are probably not like this though, and if you have other things you think are important to spend time on, then it's efficient to have a quick judgment (by using logic or statistics) so that you can build on that conclusion already and move on to your actual goal. Say you just want to know your type, you may just want to find a system that is most "valid" and scientifically accurate as an SLI. So it's not useful for you to learn all the systems and see how they went wrong.

I am not convinced with DCNH, but there is no harm in suspending my actual judgment of it right now. I'll read about it more and after I'm done that's when I'll judge.


but then it's a bad sign about this person's way of thinking in general
More like, if you care about the facts, then you will clash with these people because you are opposites. This is difference in values.

People like DarkAngelFireWolf69 imo chose the bad way of developing the theory, instead of trying to prove existence of basic concepts like functions or intertype relations with help of statistics, neuroscience and already proven psychological concepts
It could be because he's an LII who ignores Te. He has an incomplete knowledge of things, but if you do what he did the other way around, then you'll end up with the same incomplete knowledge.

It's easy for us to disregard other people's values when these values are not part of our Ego. Not sure if you are familiar with TWFP and DaveSuperPowers, it's clash of Te and Ti. It's the same thing here. Both want to know the truth of typology, but they are attacking it from opposite sides. Both of them think the other is wrong, but the ideal is combination of Ti and Te. It's a good thing that Eric is ILE with good handle of both Te and Ti. If he were an LII he'll just be like DarkAngelFireWolf69.