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Well that wasn't my main point. Reinin describes beta/Delta as authoritarian and Alpha/Gamma as Democratic. And I haven't found that to be the case after typing people I know well and have typed well. My typings aren't really in question either. I wish you would just stick to criticism of what's said and not make this about something it's not.
Because you typed them wrong. Obviously.

It had nothing to do with DarkAngelFireWolf69. You're just a turd if you think Stalin is when he was a murderous asshole who ruthlessly took power and ruled over the USSR killing anybody he didn't like or disagreed with or anyone that posed a risk to his power, only to have the USSR fall apart in a short amount of time regardless. He was a SHIT leader.
I agree, yeah, so your point with this is?

Well then why does no one ever talk about it? Show me where a conversation about it wasn't overshadowed by people saying Jung is different than socionics or that socionics is information metabolism or just that socionics is just different for whatever reason. I bet you can't.
It is addressed in DarkAngelFireWolf69's book, see up to page 36 from the beginning. Socionics is based on Jung's work and it is explained how and why they came up with the 16 types.

Here is just one an extract from page 19:

Jung distinguished four main foci of reality perception: Thinking,
Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition, which, in combination with extraversion
and introversion, provide eight main psychological types (Jung also
outlined some of the 16 types via the Auxiliary function, e.g. “practical
intellect for instance paired with sensation,” which we call “LSE” and
“speculative intellect breaking through with intuition” which we call
“LII”). This model was first offered by Jung in his work on the psychology
of individuation: Psychological Types. His theoretical constructs were
coined in parallel with their practical verification. Second only in
importance to extraversion/introversion (vertness), Jung emphasised
another scale marker: rationality/ irrationality (this was later expanded
upon in Humanitarian Socionics in its formulation of the socionic
temperaments). So, the system of differentiation characteristics is a set of
four dichotomous scales (that divide into two poles): logical/ethical,
sensory/intuitive, extraverted/ introverted and rational/irrational.
Combining these characteristics creates the following types.
Another one from page 15:

Considering Jung’s contribution, I would give the following definition
of the sociotype: a sociotype is a structure of the collective unconscious,
which controls the interaction of physical, informational (intellectual),
psychological, and social (mnemonic: PIPS) manifestations of personality
Then you also aren't qualified to assume other people can't type just because "you doubt" they can. That is all.
Thats what I said. I'm a merry aka subjectivist according to quadric dichotomies. I place weight on reputation. You guys have no reputation, I have no reputation, we aren't trained in this, so I disregard anything you guys say and I question my own observations and reasoning on other people's types. I did type myself across several models and systems, LSI is the only type that makes sense across the board for me due to many reasons. Idk about other ppl, I'm satisfied with knowing this about myself.

When someone comes to me saying they are my dual and they haven't been typed by someone with reputation, I don't believe them lol.. why would I?
When you stop missing every point I make every time I try and communicate with you, I'll stop seeing you as somebody with a stick up their ass.
Idk, you seem to me like you are emotional and angry. Its pointless to converse with you, I'm mainly writing this for other ppl reading.

Of course you wouldn't understand that genuinely getting to know people might actually give you a real understanding of their problems, or even better their "type". Because you don't type people, you let DarkAngelFireWolf69 do that for you.
yeah, but I don't care about your problems, nor do I want to type you. e_e I'm not your shrink, friend, parent or nanny..