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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Fi vs Fe?
    Yes, empathy and sympathy are related to the Jungian functions. (In which context are the words empathy and sympathy used? Are they nouns or verbs?)

    To which functions are they related? @Uncle Ave You got it almost right. Think about it a bit more.

    How people behave when they empathize or sympathize with someone or something?

    Most people use the English words empathy and sympathy interchangeably. They do not know the difference. (There are spoken languages in which these words do not even exist.)


    It is essential to know the Jungian functions well for accurate typing results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    I don't know how expensive it is to get typed by gulenko, but if you're unsure about your typing, he is probably the best person to help you figure it out. he has decades of experience and makes most people on this website look like amateurs (no offense). I had four skype conversations with his team which lasted around 3 hours each and the knowledge they have about the theory is just much greater than that of any english socionics researcher I've read about so far. (I translate a lot of his work into german and his team explained their theories to me). even when I disagreed on a typing from their gallery, they usually offer me a very good explanation on how they came to a certain conclusion.
    Did he confirm you as LII?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    Did he confirm you as LII?

    I didn't do a typing interview with him because I never really had doubts about my type. I wrote him on facebook that I have a german socionics website with a lot ot translations of his work, then he invited me to a skype conversation with his school. one of my friends translated for me since she speaks russian. gulenko understands written english btw, which made the contact pretty easy. the people of his school also speak english very well, so they explained humanitarian socionics to me in a few skype sessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlytherinPower View Post
    Is Si more aesthetics in socionics vs in mbti?
    I would say so yes, I don't recall aesthetics being mentioned in that context in MBTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    Thank you Aster and @Consilience Gulenkos observations match much more closely with my own and with that of people who are close to me. Ive been typed as similar elsewhere as well via live voice/video. This forum/people from it has seemed to be the main hub for the delta NF typing which the more I have read and learned I realized was pretty off... its like you said though Aster, some people are very insistent. Consilience, you nailed it. Typing people based off a bunch of text on a forum/server whatever, often yields poor results from what Ive seen.
    Well, I have to admit when I saw you were typed LSI (on sedecology) it threw me for a bit of a loop at first, but I also saw you thought it was right and why. So I began reframing my understanding of a bunch of things. I think when people come to the forum typed as one thing, people can get stuck with that in their minds and forms a stereotype of what that type is like.


    Im going to explain one day soon why I think my typing is right (on here), but I havent been feeling well lately, dont have much free time to write it out right now, and I want to explain it well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Honestly, I dont know what to say, but yes, it was the type I was expecting to be typed. Not at first, but after I watched my second video. And I figured there would be people who wouldnt agree. And yes, some people have consider this type for me such as @thehotelambush and @mu4 after seeing a video I posted on here a few years ago. I did consider it for a time but a few people (not mentioning any names) basically bullied me out of considering it.
    I'm fairly sure that's not the best typing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Gulenko's view is definitely more than "just one opinion among others". You as well as I know his track record and knowledge in this field. Of course he can make mistakes, everybody knows that. Lots of things matters when judging who is reliable: Mr G.s own type (LII), his discovery of DCNH ( a huge improvement for more reliable typings), his experience etc. That doesn't mean that one can't be critical of his typings also, but I would never shoot down a typing by him directly, because his experience has more weight than mine.
    DCNH does not increase my confidence in his typings. His model has strayed quite far from Model A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Well, I have to admit when I saw you were typed LSI (on sedecology) it threw me for a bit of a loop at first, but I also saw you thought it was right and why. So I began reframing my understanding of a bunch of things. I think when people come to the forum typed as one thing, people can get stuck with that in their minds and forms a stereotype of what that type is like.


    I’m going to explain one day soon why I think my typing is right (on here), but I haven’t been feeling well lately, don’t have much free time to write it out right now, and I want to explain it well.


    But I will.
    There is far more I can explain, I have on Sedecology as well, but I feel like there is no need also. Those who really know me, know. No need to pain yourself over it, you know yourself best and the opinions on this forum do not matter. My only real reason for sharing anything here was to illuminate that Gulenko is not speaking out of his ass. Hope you feel better soon, I have been a bit under the weather myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    DCNH does not increase my confidence in his typings. His model has strayed quite far from Model A.
    He seems to just have re-positioned and renamed the functions based on function strength, but they all still end up being the same overall structure when the IEs are inserted.
    All you have to do is put them side by side and contrast. Its obvious. DCNH imo serves as a way to explain behavior differences between people who have the same information element usage within the functional structure.

    I for example still have Ni-HA, role Fi, Si demo and Ne-PolR. Thats how I know I'm LSI even in model A. Idk about other ppl who got typed by G, but I always double check with my own reasoning e_e.. its a curse of being Ti and type 6, I always overthink and cross-examine everything right down to the nuts and bolts. Compulsive overthinking.. I even made sure Reinin dichotomies fit.. any way I slice it looking at konwn and understood dichotomies.. only LSI patterns appear.

    Considering I'm melancholic in temperament, considering I'm a highly risk averse type 6... e_e it all comes together neatly like a puzzle basically describing the same kind of person across several models and even personality theories.

    They say a 6 should stop thinking about it when he is 70% sure, I'm 90% sure lol. Gulenko typed me correctly imo.. in contrast to the forum which is filled with bumbling idiots who mislead ppl. I equate it to a kind of infuriating gas-lighting of ppl trying to understand themselves and I will fight you fuckers down to the bone if I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Yes, empathy and sympathy are related to the Jungian functions. (In which context are the words empathy and sympathy used? Are they nouns or verbs?)

    To which functions are they related? @Uncle Ave You got it almost right. Think about it a bit more.

    How people behave when they empathize or sympathize with someone or something?

    Most people use the English words empathy and sympathy interchangeably. They do not know the difference. (There are spoken languages in which these words do not even exist.)


    It is essential to know the Jungian functions well for accurate typing results.
    "What is difference between sympathy and empathy?Empathy is a term we use for the ability to understand other people's feelings as if we were having them ourselves. ... Sympathy refers to the ability to take part in someone else's feelings, mostly by feeling sorrowful about their misfortune."

    From Grammarly

    From that point of view, to me, it makes sense that introverted ethics (Fi) is related to "understanding" people's feelings. Whereas sympathy, the ability to take part in them, is more related to extroverted ethics (Fe).

    Fi will not try and participate in the emotion, but it can understand and empathize - Fe participates.

    Again, this is going by the definition given above from Grammarly, and applied to my understanding of the functions.

    Or would you say it is the other way around - that I am mixing up Fi with Fe perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex View Post
    You yourself don't even know all of his typing methodology so how can you criticize it? Different Socionists is a different matter entirely and that's why people should look into what methods they like and respect from a Socionist. People are of course going to have different opinions on a theory, but the heart of the matter is most English means are outdated, so why not go to a source itself? There's a lot to learn from there and I'm not sure why this goes over people's heads.
    I've seen several of his type assessments with the reasoning attached. He has also talked about it in different publications. I haven't seen it being a special secret sauce, really. He determines the temperament and then goes by dichotomies, finally ending up with DCNH which he uses to smooth out some other inconsistencies. The analysis is pretty surface level, with single anecdotes used to rationalize a dichotomy. That's to be expected when it's basically a short questionnaire with the second part customized. The main work of Gulenko has been translated and there's a lot of stuff you can read with the help of google translate as well. You're underestimating (projecting?) if you think it goes over the heads of people. This is literally not rocket science.

    Nobody here got typed by Gulenko because "he's popular". Nobody even mentioned that so that's your perception of "this fad". Also, what you say in terms of someone "being good at a theory but not being able to apply it" is not very logical. If anything that shows how little you know about the theory. The theory is meant just to examine how people think on a cognitive level and how they metabolize information, that's it. This isn't an idea based on things that are physical or tangible that can be put out into an applicable plan. Most people of his caliber wouldn't even need much to examine how people think. This is a theory and anyone who knows a theory inside out, especially from the mind of the woman who created the theory, is going to be able to apply it for what it's meant to do. He's objectively one of the best Socionists out there with 30 years under his belt, trained by the originator, carrying on her theory, and running his own school which still uses Model A and another Model to enhance it. It makes no sense to say that someone with so much experience and who still uses the same Model, and has done so much research, who everyone in the sphere of Socionics talks about and refers to, bears no weight on Socionics or has no credible opinion due to "his method", and this shows how you "apply it" yourself imo.
    I didn't say people got typed by Gulenko because he's popular. I said it would be foolish to unquestioningly trust him based on that. Are you implying that you do unquestioningly trust him? If not, then this statement does not apply. Being good with theory but not being good at applying it in the field is something that happens in the real world all the time, in most fields. Is this something you're going to debate?
    Here the "applying it in the field" refers to the ability to determine a person's type in the system. That isn't necessarily easy to do even if you know the theory inside out. Unless you redefine your theory so that it locks down a simple methodology that always applies by looking at some specific surface details (thinking Vultology/CognitiveType here), but that doesn't seem to be very useful seeing how complex personality is. The rest of your arguments are basically ethical singing of Gulenko's praises: "Most people of his caliber wouldn't even need much to examine how people think." - seriously?

    I mean pretty much everyone is disputed in every field, Gulenko is really undeniably the most credible OG Socionist out there though. Nobody here who got typed treats him like a gold standard, though it's undeniable to see his work in the field. We just see the reasoning we got from him as far superior from which we received from the forum. People here can still think whatever, the forum is largely for fun for most forumites.
    No, most facts and theories within fields of actual sciences are not disputed. Socionics is a jungle where few agree with each other outside of basic Model A. I wasn't talking about Gulenko personally being disputed as a "socionist" (although these people undoubtedly also exist), I was talking about how widespread the acceptance of Model G and DCNH is among people working on Socionics. It's good if none of you think Gulenko's typing is automatically gold standard and instead see the reasoning as very solid and fitting. I was hoping this would be the case.

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    I forgot to mention that I agree with "Don't let this fad turn into a cult and remain critical." Because critical thinking leads to original thought and also leads theories, structures, insights, and the like leading forward and advancing. Though what you say in all your other posts that I've quoted here go against this aspect of critical thinking IMO.
    Good. Personally I see it goes against critical thinking if you mostly base your arguments on the weight of someone's perceived reputation in a field where nothing is objectively proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    could you tell me more about this? if you are comfortable. I am curious what the process is like for people who do seek to be typed (I haven't). Over some time I mean, on this forum.
    I came here thinking maybe I'm SLI or ILI for example. I thought I was most likely not MBTI INTP (what i test as), but ISTP based on months long interaction with actual INTPs. I gave a short video in a type me thread. Based on that ppl immediately said Ne lead, probably ILE, either that of SEI aka generally alpha quadra e_e based on "vibes" aka "you have alpha quadra vibes".. some agreed with ILI. I disagreed on Ne, because not having a clear path and having a breath of options was/is infuriating and annoying, it just caused me to be paralyzed and overthink again. I'm not a creative person either (ppl with strong Ne are by default), that only occurred to one ILE here, but was ignored. Then I was told I have Fi PolR based on me saying that I feel nothing about some social disaster half way around the world that has nothing to do with my life lol.. and triggering some ppl. Due to disagreeing with a self typed LIE lmao he kept thinking SEI (cus muh conflictor and ITR). I kept arguing with them, meanwhile I figured out that I am probably beta quadra and that I'm like what the beta quadra describes. I saw LSI as Dolores Umbridge type, because that is the misconception and stereotype here.. so i thought maybe i am IEI and I'm not aware of just how feely I am or something.

    The arguments went on, I sincerely thought some ppl were just messing with me at some point saying things like "you change types too often, must be Ne".. when I get conflicting information from multiple sources, have too many options and my own analysis is pointing at some kind of beta type, It was a complete mess and a nightmare for any Ne PolR type (which I eventually turned out to be).

    So one day ppl in chat were talking about Gulenko offering typing services and linked to an ILI who was typed earlier. I decided to just cut through the crap and pay Gulenko to type me. Turns out my hunch of being beta was right, came out LSI-Harmonizing... Ne PolR, which is the furthest away from being Ne base type ILE (my supervisor).

    I do NOT recommend being typed by the forum nor listening to what they have to say about one's type. At best they will get it wrong and at worst they will try to force a certain type onto you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex View Post
    You say "several" but there's only been a handful of people who have been typed as of late, and even fewer who have been open enough to share something like their analysis. Most people are still getting typed due to how busy G is. You can undermine the methods but clearly most people on this forum don't have the same deep understanding as people who have trained 10+ years in a specific field. This is what I'm getting at in all my previous posts. There's a huge difference in mood and tone from when SGF was typed by Gulenko and your reaction to him and now towards all these different people (don't say I'm dragging him into this because I'm not also lol at your IEI typing of him since he was obviously Ti ego). You recognized him as Beta and even said "Welcome to your Beta home" on his thread. I say there's a lot to learn by going to the source in different posts, which I meant is the case with any Socionist a person gets typed by since I think it's important to see how a specific Socionist would type, why, and how. It's as "hands on" as it gets. That is what I mean when I say it goes over people's heads. You say it's not rocket science but Socionics may as well be at this point, if there have been so many Beta on this forum all along and you haven't been able to recognize them.
    Yes, more than two but not dozens of course. They are all the same format, determination of temperament and installation by using dichotomies. It's very MBTI/Keirsey. It's basically still this method: https://www.socioniko.net/en/articles/gulenko-mbti.html
    I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad method, it's very straightforward and quick but I don't see anything "game-changing" about it. Are you referring to my tone and mood? I haven't been specifically questioning SGF's typing if that's what you mean, I actually commended Gulenko on that typing back then and haven't changed my mind about it. Almost everyone getting typed as betas suggests a systemic bias but I'm not convinced yet that it means most forum members actually are betas.
    If you're reading my intention as attacking everyone who has been typed Gulenko, you're reading it wrong.

    Why would you say "it is foolish to unquestioningly trust them based on their popularity" if a person didn't trust someone enough to type them? That's just illogical. How can a person know a theory but not apply it? That also makes no sense. Vultology and CT are different AFAIK (though I think inspired by Socionics) so I don't care about those. However, again I will say this isn't a personality theory. That's MBTI or Psycheyoga. Socionics is a psycho-social theory which is meant to look at how people think and interact as a result.
    What exactly is illogical now? It's common for people to be good at knowing or formulating theories but not necessarily at applying them in practice. Or do you see a lot of theoretical physicists building bridges despite their knowledge on statics? Yes, the major difference to MBTI is the intertype theories, however I haven't seen this aspect being used for type determination by Gulenko for example.

    You're making a lot of assumptions here. I'm pretty critical of Socionics as a whole, which I've spoken about multiple times in different posts. You yourself have not given any actual logical reasoning, just off topic rambles such as "it's not real science" or "Vultology bad", and other opinions like "I've read his publications on his methods which were OK" (which may not have even revealed all his methods that he teaches or uses, that would be too exploitable).
    I was talking about Gulenko's contributions to the structural theory when I mentioned his publications, not his skill in the "craft of typing" which is a very debated subject where no two people seem to agree on methodology for typing actual people. It's a sad state of socionics if there are "secret methods" that need to be protected from "exploitation" (of other competing "schools"?), because finally coming up with a workable system of typing real people would do much to elevate socionics as a whole.


    Finally referring to this Timur quote:
    Socionic type has almost no effect on how you behave, it is not related to the level of intelligence, social success, personal qualities like honesty or kindness. Socionic type shows what kind of information your mind processes better, and which one is worse, which one it needs, and which one it ignores at all. Socionic type is a “skeleton” of our psyche, its deep mechanism, like our temperament.

    I find this to be in contradiction to how determining someone's type is literally based on their behavior when answering a set of questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    There is far more I can explain, I have on Sedecology as well, but I feel like there is no need also. Those who really know me, know. No need to pain yourself over it, you know yourself best and the opinions on this forum do not matter. My only real reason for sharing anything here was to illuminate that Gulenko is not speaking out of his ass. Hope you feel better soon, I have been a bit under the weather myself
    Yeah, that’s exactly my thoughts as well. I write some snippets on here from my life, but people don’t really know me (I don’t even get on shoutbox very often). I feel like, as others have said, that Gulenko asked the right questions. I was thinking I was going to get IEI-N before I got my diagnostic back after watching my second video, so I wasn’t surprised, and I think it made a whole lot of sense. But I wasn’t even considering it when I made my first video. Or really even my second. Just afterwards. I’ve definitely been rethinking a bunch of things lately.


    Been feeling off myself since around thanksgiving. I noticed my lymph nodes swelling up, body aches, and a lack of motivation, so I’m assuming I might be sick or something. lol hope it’s not the ‘rona. Been staying home just in case.
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    So this is why you're "playing dumb"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    So this is why you're "playing dumb"?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex View Post
    Yeah, this is the definition of "several".

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    Gulenko is paying me 15 hryvnias for every heretic that I convert here. Line up.
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    He earned four times the minimum wage in Ukraine by doing 2-3 typings of confused people flooding his service because they had an identity crisis.
    He better use that money to turn that Eastern European-kindergarten-looking room into a lounge full of velvet and fine wine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex View Post
    If I'm IEI, the cashier down the street is SEE, and the dude who sells my weed is SEI, what do you think the group sex would be like? Asking just for socionics reasons.
    I have heard that Gulenko likes to do social experiments, mb you should let one LII to join in for your group experiment. For the science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    He seems to just have re-positioned and renamed the functions based on function strength, but they all still end up being the same overall structure when the IEs are inserted.
    All you have to do is put them side by side and contrast. Its obvious.
    Not at all - the suggestive function is supposed to have "high energy" in Model G. There is no reasonable sense in which this makes sense (including the ways it has been explained by Model G proponents themselves).

    DCNH imo serves as a way to explain behavior differences between people who have the same information element usage within the functional structure.
    That's the intended purpose of any subtype theory. But DCNH qualities are better attributed to differences between type. Subtypes are widely used as a justification for poor typings. To see the absurdity of this, what the heck is a "Dominant" EII supposed to look like?

    I for example still have Ni-HA, role Fi, Si demo and Ne-PolR. Thats how I know I'm LSI even in model A. Idk about other ppl who got typed by G, but I always double check with my own reasoning e_e.. its a curse of being Ti and type 6, I always overthink and cross-examine everything right down to the nuts and bolts. Compulsive overthinking.. I even made sure Reinin dichotomies fit.. any way I slice it looking at konwn and understood dichotomies.. only LSI patterns appear.
    The fact that you think the Reinin dichotomy descriptions make sense also does not help your case.

    Considering I'm melancholic in temperament, considering I'm a highly risk averse type 6... e_e it all comes together neatly like a puzzle basically describing the same kind of person across several models and even personality theories.
    That would be nice, but some models are just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Not at all - the suggestive function is supposed to have "high energy" in Model G. There is no reasonable sense in which this makes sense (including the ways it has been explained by Model G proponents themselves).
    Define "high energy".

    That's the intended purpose of any subtype theory. But DCNH qualities are better attributed to differences between type. Subtypes are widely used as a justification for poor typings. To see the absurdity of this, what the heck is a "Dominant" EII supposed to look like?
    One with accentuated Fe. Probably MBTI INFJ.

    The fact that you think the Reinin dichotomy descriptions make sense also does not help your case.
    I think several do not make sense, but other people have been saying for a while that for example process type makes sense for me even if I don't see it and I use causal determinist cognition. From the ones I'm sure of such as subjectivist, static, introvert, declaring, obstinate, emotive, carefree, aristocratic, logical.

    That would be nice, but some models are just wrong.
    It is probable that some models are flawed. I'm still Ni-HA, Si-Demo, Ti-base, Fi-Role and Ne-Polr by model A standards. I don't have to rely strictly on model G tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    To see the absurdity of this, what the heck is a "Dominant" EII supposed to look like?
    My ex.

    I'll send you video and picture of her, so you can see for yourself.

    There's really nothing strange about this, unless one has a too onesided view of how a type can manifest.
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    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    My ex.

    I'll send you video and picture of her, so you can see for yourself.
    that is not necessary

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    That's the intended purpose of any subtype theory. But DCNH qualities are better attributed to differences between type. Subtypes are widely used as a justification for poor typings. To see the absurdity of this, what the heck is a "Dominant" EII supposed to look like?
    I can tell you that, because one of my friends is an EII with a dominant subtype. he's the organiser of a meetup group called eye contact experiment. he describes the group as an opportunity to see into the soul of another person and to find your soulmate. the group has 4000 members.

    https://www.meetup.com/de-DE/Berlin-...ct-Experiment/

    he's the leader of his team, looks for venues and organises his team. if you behave in an inappropiate way he will directly tell you to stop your behaviour, but he will also tell you "sorry for that" a few hours later. you need to spend some time with different subtypes of a type to see the differences. normalising EII are much more passive and spend most of their time at home reading books. my friend has hundreds of contacts but still prefers to occasionally be alone.

    it could be that you're a normalising subtype hotel, so DCNH might not really be for you. gulenko knows that his school is mostly interesting for creative subtypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
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    that's not my friend, but it's interesting that you type people based on dark pictures. no wonder that you come to all these nonsense conclusions
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    that is not necessary

    yes it is
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    that's not my friend, but it's interesting that you type people based on dark pictures. no wonder that you come to all these nonsense conclusions
    khcs just likes to troll, don't take him seriously lol, unless its about politics and not typology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    khcs just likes to troll, don't take him seriously lol, unless its about politics and not typology.

    I know that he trolls me, but I also enjoy to criticize him, because I have no respect for him. I find his political posts here especially annoying and disgusting, and I'm suprised that he hasn't been completely banned yet, considering how little value he brings to this site. But I guess I have a more authoritarian mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    it could be that you're a normalising subtype hotel, so DCNH might not really be for you. gulenko knows that his school is mostly interesting for creative subtypes.
    The question of what subtype I am has no bearing on the validity of DCNH, any more than me valuing Ti or not has any bearing on whether socionics is valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    that's not my friend, but it's interesting that you type people based on dark pictures. no wonder that you come to all these nonsense conclusions
    I think they typed Game of Thrones characters by... VIing /the actors/.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    yes it is
    I'm sure there are websites where you could share her pictures more efficiently and with a wider group, if that's your kinda thing.

    But seriously, I am not going to be convinced unless 1) we agree on the person's base typing (pictures are obviously useless for that, and random videos probably not much better) and 2) you can sufficiently explain why the person fits the subtype in addition to that. Step 1 will probably fail in most cases, because DCNH types are not independent of sociotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Define "high energy".
    The suggestive/manipulative function in Model G is described as follows:

    "Function receives as much energy as is needed to solve challenges. The more complex the task, the more energy at its disposal."

    This is exactly the opposite of how it is. The suggestive function is perpetually inadequate for the task at hand. It's a 1D function so it has very little in the way of energy and struggles with more complex tasks.

    ym0whd11v0211.jpg model_g_launcher.png

    The issues with Model G come from the fact that Model A is already a model of energy metabolism. It makes little sense to come up with a "different model" for the same types with the same functions, yet describe them differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    I think they typed Game of Thrones characters by... VIing /the actors/.

    oh yeah I saw that one. one of the highlights here haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    I know that he trolls me, but I also enjoy to criticize him, because I have no respect for him. I find his political posts here especially annoying and disgusting, and I'm suprised that he hasn't been completely banned yet, considering how little value he brings to this site. But I guess I have a more authoritarian mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    The suggestive/manipulative function in Model G is described as follows [...]
    Hotel, it is described as 'higher energy' /only in comparison to/ brake (PoLR) and control (ignoring). In what you posted.

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    *waves* I’ve been inactive for a while here but seen this post and thought I’d chime in...I was typed a month or so back as IEI-Harmonising subtype by Gulenko. Which I’ll admit has confused me because I can see a good case for it and when I read the profile sent to me along with the reasonings for the conclusions I was awed at how it fit so well, but for so long I’ve believed myself to be EII and INFP in MBTI. I still see myself as EII and in other Socionics groups that’s been thought of as my best fit type. Though yeah, I’m still learning and more open minded now to just living and accepting that different people see different types in me.

    I would recommend the experience though if you have the money spare and interested in typology overall. I found the process really simplistic to go through and now looking into how Model G works

    I find it so cool though that more English speaking people are reaching out and getting typed. Makes me feel less alone in that experience!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    So, to all the people that were typed, did you all send back a reaction video and any agree to have it posted on their YouTube channel? I havent made one yet because well Im a mess, but I plan on it because I feel obligated to. But Im debating if I want it published or not.
    i sent a reaction video back though it was an absolute blabbering mess (not to mention my hair was three sizes bigger cause I thought Id try out waves so I was a physical mess too). I cant remember if mine was published or not...I think it was cause I never said no but cant find it 😬

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    @justalitnerdxx, I remember you could always relate to your posts a lot.

    glad to see you post again!

    PS I like your avatar pic
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    Quote Originally Posted by justalitnerdxx View Post
    i sent a reaction video back though it was an absolute blabbering mess (not to mention my hair was three sizes bigger cause I thought I’d try out waves so I was a physical mess too). I can’t remember if mine was published or not...I think it was cause I never said no but can’t find it 
    Ohh, you posted about same time I did to you lol. Yeah I made mine but I thought I looked like neurotic/psychotic or something because I drank a ton of coffee on an empty stomach. They were probably like what in the world lol. So yeah I can relate to the embarrassment. I told them they could publish if they want (it was only about 3 minutes), but I don’t blame them if they don’t want to lol
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