This is a subject worthy of an own thread.
@shotgunfingers LSI-H
@Ebony IEI-C
@Suspiria EIE-C
@Chakram LSI-N
@Paranoia Agent ILI-C
@thegreenfaerie LSI-H
@Uncle Ave LSI-C
@aster IEI-N
@justalitnerdxx IEI-H
This is a subject worthy of an own thread.
@shotgunfingers LSI-H
@Ebony IEI-C
@Suspiria EIE-C
@Chakram LSI-N
@Paranoia Agent ILI-C
@thegreenfaerie LSI-H
@Uncle Ave LSI-C
@aster IEI-N
@justalitnerdxx IEI-H
Last edited by Reyne; 12-07-2020 at 04:40 PM.
soo, what is it that you guys want to know?
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
You mean this guy? He said he got typed ILI by gulenko, so there should be no problem. He certainly seems ILI.
If you meant somebody else, could you please post the link.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Here's his introduction: ILI Harmonizing.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I like how on the page for English speakers to get typed, his shirt says ‘American’. Idk why I just thought it was hilarious.
> shotgunfingers - LSI-H
most possibly ILE
For example. Base T do not jump easily to different types in own profile - they are the most reasonable in logical themes as what is your type. They prefer to think good to decide something as assured and said publicly. So to say not assured opinions (without pointing it's not assured) or change it easily - is not about base T type. While you jumped to rather different types and several times per a short time. It's good reason to reject base T and to suppose P type.
There are low matches between today experienced typers, - so there should be significant % of mistakes (mb ~50%). Besides heretical doubtful hypotheses may be used by them to reduce an accuracy. Gulenko uses a lot of heresies.
So the best is to study to type people yourself and to check your own type by IR effects with people IRL. Where those people should be typed by VI also, as nonverbal behavior is linked with types and adds useful info. Only then there is good base to be sure in your own type.
Interesting, where @Reyne would be typed by him
Last edited by Sol; 11-14-2020 at 01:19 PM.
yeah, I did consider SLI or IEE when I came to the forum, mainly because in MBTI I typed INTP... but when I met actual INTPs.. I thought that they were too "academic" and too abstract, it frustrated me that they just want the high of the idea and do not want to "bruteforce" the ideas onto reality. S I thought at the time ISTP would be a better fit and with my rather bad understanding of socionics I thought ISTP was SLI and "P" meant irrational.
I disagreed with the ILE typing mainly because I'm some kind of a political revolutionary and not a inventor or a scientist. I'm too cautious and overthink before I do anything, prefer to have one elegant and rigid solution, than to take risks and have many options. I also disagreed with Fi PolR, because comparing myself to other Fi PolR types I seemed to be more aware and just deliberately trying to start fires in order to push my agendas.
Somone in my typing thread mentioned that "he does not invent tho". I though that was funny.
True, Gulenko uses model G, which is not model A. The recommendation is to forget model A, as it is flawed. I was typed according to model G.There are low matches between today experienced typers, - so there should be significant % of mistakes (mb ~50%). Besides heretical doubtful hypotheses may be used by them to reduce an accuracy. Gulenko uses a lot of heresies.
Tbh I just wanted to understand why I was the way I was, I'm not interested in pursuing duality or anything ITR related, so further comprehension of the system is less useful to me.So the best is to study to type people yourself and to check your own type by IR effects with people IRL. Where those people should be typed by VI also, as nonverbal behavior is linked with types and adds useful info. Only then there is good base to be sure in your own type
EDIT: I still think understanding that I'm Enneagram type 6, gave me more than socioncs and MBTI combined... tbh..
Last edited by SGF; 11-14-2020 at 04:00 PM. Reason: typos
Popularity of this guy's typing services is my strongest motivation to research socionics atm. I see it as a great opportunity to earn easy money
I’ve already made up my mind, I’m going to do it. But Christmas is coming up, so I hate to spend that amount of money right now.
Hmmm. Based on his 90's(?) profiles I was only able to squeeze myself into ILE initial and EIE initial. Based on later information former is gazillion times more likely.
So yeah I wonder what makes this whole ordeal so hard.
Anyways, good like I hope daddy Godlenko won't bite your head off and if he does I hope he is gentle.
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i like lse for susi
Yeah, his cognition is clearly and incredibly at odds with all self-typed LSI I have seen so far, especially the ones typed correctly.
I can see his reasoning behind most of what he says, so we might share some common ego function, but I often find that Ti base always have something I can't do reverse engineering to, in order to know their thoughts for example.
Last edited by BrainlessSquid; 11-14-2020 at 05:35 PM.
Flirt with ideas
Date opportunities
Marry problem-solving
I'm getting typed too
Ohhh an exclusive club for the people typed by Gulenko!
I think that no matter what, the process of typing is a very revealing thing that people choose to go through so they can understand themselves better. Being in the role of a psychologist would understand the gravity of the business relationship and sympathize with their client. Gulenko is very nice and kind, and I can tell he’s like that when treating individuals because I’ve watched his lectures in front of groups and his analysis of types and specific persons are from a fair point of view.
I watched his video lecturing a group of SLE women, his supervisors, and we all know he’s Se PoLR. I can sense he sorta felt on edge lol but despite that, even he was polite from what he says about the SLE woman’s flaws and he understands the motivations, too. I think that’s a great testament to his fairness. Just because he don’t like something doesn’t mean he can’t understand and be helpful. I think for fun I’d get typed by him but it would be pointless for me because I sense he’ll take one look at my video and conclude SLE and probably respond, “I have typed many woman Marshall. They are everywhere in Russia”
I think this should be the "Officially Typed Members Thread", if people want to go that route and are that curious about it.
I do agree with this wholeheartedly, the process of typing is very revealing and provides insight. It's very important for a person to go with a distinguished individual who's method's they can respect, who also has experience in the field. Individuals like Jack (his older method was great!), Gulenko, Timur, Olga, etc.
I think he understands that socionics is very revealing when people are typed. I'm sure he wouldn't want to be too flippant during a lecture, and say something careless to a person regardless of type that could come off as insensitive. Not just because it looks bad for Socionics, or may seem like a misapplication, but also since it may affect a person's self esteem in the long term. He seems to have a deep understanding of things like this.
There are many Beta women in Russia from what I understand, especially Beta ST, so that's true
Last edited by Vex; 11-22-2020 at 02:39 AM.
Socionics is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have, but I have it.
I wonder if Gulenko accepts crypto as mode of payment.
Gulenko is professional but he doesn’t have to be in a room full of his supervisors I can’t do that. I can handle 1 supervisor sometimes when they’re coming at me with their atrocious, cringe Fi but a room full of them? Oh HELL NO! I have to give credit where credit’s due. Gulenko stood in front of a bunch of supervisors and made fun of them and they didn’t rip his head off. Challenged him, yes, he was prepared for that. But you could see the sweat coming from his brows
his advice however is very on point, IF one understands his DCNH system.
Example for me he wrote:
What that means:
• Contact, terminal, connective — dominant subtype (D)
• Contact, initial, ignorative — creative subtype (C)
• Distant, terminal, ignorative — normalizing subtype (N)
• Distant, initial, connective — harmonizing subtype (H)
Contactness — a feature drawing personalities to tense situations;
predisposition to danger, facing challenges, activity. Trait shared by
creative and dominant subtypes.
Distantness — a feature withdrawing personalities from tense
situations; predisposition to balance, inner control. Trait shared by
normalizing and harmonizing subtypes.
Initiality — a feature orienting personalities to undertaking new
activities easily; predisposition to being at one with what comes to you.
Trait shared by creative and harmonizing subtypes.
Terminality — a feature of personalities with orientation to bring
whatever they have begun to completion; predisposition for controlling
one’s world. Trait shared by dominant and normalizing subtypes.
Connectiveness — the feature orienting a personality towards social
suggestibility; results in increased agreeability. Trait shared by dominant
and harmonizing subtypes.
Ignorativeness — the feature orienting personalities towards utilitarian
behavior, focus on one’s personal understanding and interests. Trait shared
by creative and normalizing subtypes.
since I'm already ignorative and meet only 2 requirements for harmonizing, by changing distantness to contactness (which I have been working towards without being aware of what I'm doing) .. the development into LSI-C becomes clear. It sounds like developing more Se & Ne, to be less cautious and inactive, to become more engaging, to do more and be more directly interactive, to take risks. This is also the path of growth for enneagram type 6, requires me to risk trusting myself and others more.. its funny how they coincide.
For those that have done this, how long did the process take from when you sent them your video and they gave you your results? Just curious.
That's not so bad @Megatrop
The G-man also typed @The Exception as EIE. Normalizing subtype.
Well, first video is sent! I’m excited!! Merry Christmas to me lol
I thought that Gulenko was conflicted about Execption's type. As in leaning towards EIE keeping EII in mind as optional.
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The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I think good typists are not good interviewers and good interviewers are not good typists. Hence I'd say that this operation should be performed by team of compatible members [=not butt licking or just disagreeable]. Analysis does not open people and proper interviewer can not invest time in detached analysis.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
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Life is a joke but do you have a life?
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