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    SLE

    I think the band is playing a variation on this song when she walks on to the set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMGH3kHhzM

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    SLE.

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    What did she say that makes you think she prefers Ti over Te?

    (she is imho SEE > SLE)

    (fact fact fact I've learned and others - experts - told me WHY AREN'T YOU STANDING UP FOR THIS ETHICAL ISSUE)

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    Kamala Harris - INFP Yesenin (Same personality type as Jennifer Lopez)



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    Same type as Tina Turner



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    SEE

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I think the band is playing a variation on this song when she walks on to the set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMGH3kHhzM
    Sounds more like a piano version of guitar intro from this (with some modifications): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TngViNw2pOo

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    LIE

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    LSE 3w4 so/sx


    Kamala has some similarity to Tulsi Gabbart who is also a Te-lead, that even those who don't know about typology said they looked/sounded so much the same:



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    Same type as Tina Turner
    yeah, Ej temp - Si-creative

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    @silke



    Kamala Harris - INFP Yesenin
    Tulsi Gabbart - ENFJ Hamlet


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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    LSE 3w4 so/sx


    Kamala has some similarity to Tulsi Gabbart who is also a Te-lead, that even those who don't know about typology said they looked/sounded so much the same:




    yeah, Ej temp - Si-creative
    I think Tulsi could be SLI-Te. Kamala seems Ni to me. I'd say EIE-Ni but I'm not sure she has enough Fe. I think LIE is better. Its interesting the contrast between strong Se from Tulsi and Kamala who seems rather N with low S.

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    Se base. leaning towards SLE at the moment but SEE is possible.

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    I've changed my mind to SEE-N

    she is very involved in communication, especially with children. she knows how to engage them, often gives compliments and inspires them. she even wrote a children's book. loves to dance with them too

    https://youtu.be/60BgmvB_Ah0
    https://youtu.be/6wdhyrFthZ0

    knows how to entertain. very expressive and always seems focused.

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    She remains INFP Yesenin

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    She remains INFP Yesenin
    Every day is a new day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Every day is a new day.
    Tomorrow is a new years day.
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    SLE-Ti. Both of her parents were involved in the sciences. She seems more Ti valuing than Fi valuing. Has a greater focus on achievement than many SLE-Ti.

    I read some things that indicated she was pro-crime control and had prosecuted people, disproportionately, for drug crimes, but then the wikipedia article makes her sound like more of a civil libertarian.

    She is VERY smart, creative, and beautiful and has a good work ethic. But the thing I read that she did about drug crimes were bad. And the death penalty shouldn't be ruled out completely, it's what I'd want for myself and the state can do things a lot worse than death; it seems like a reward to me. And she's just barely black.

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    I like to say "Kabbalah Harris" just cause it's hilarious.

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    Ahem someone suggested ESE to me and I agree. One glaring sign of Ti valuing is how she didn't like Biden but was later like, do you not understand how debate works? It's not about personal feelings. It's about the Ti.

    That's true, it's about logically defeating your opponent, even if you hate them, even if you find them dispicible, it's their arguments that matter and if those arguments can be defeated. It's not personal.

    She's a lawyer, she was trained as such, she gets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    I don't know, Tulsi seemed only concerned here with how Kamala's decisions effected certain people and the ethics behind them. Kamala ignored that and instead talked about her "decisions" and how she's reformed the "system" and that she's proud of her choices, while denouncing Tulsi intentions as theatrics. She doesn't actually care about those people Tulsi is talking about and she doesn't believe Tulsi is serious. Doesn't sound Fi valuing at all, probably SLE like everyone else says; it jives with experience too. They can a bit too callous with their logic.

    TLDR:
    Tulsi is like the girl you want to help and make sweet love too. Kamala is like the Dominatrix that's going to tear your ass up, whether you like it or not.

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    Yeah, Tulsi and Kamala are pretty different, where did silke see a similarity?

    I know that they're both Beta ST creative function subtypes, but Tulsi is awesome, fair, honest and calm and pretty principled and very rational and independent (based upon her own experiences and not trying to jive with or manipulate public opinion), while Kamala is thin-skinned like me and would change her mind about things in a heartbeat and really just wants power unlike me. She wants everyone to think she's the best. While she's way smarter than me, she's not as unique or as emotionally and logically independent as a Tulsi or a Ron Paul.

    Tulsi's Ti mimics or leads to excellent use of her role function, she's better with Fi matters, morality than I am with them as my base function.

    I don't think Kamala would be as pro-war as Biden is going to be though. But both scare me.

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    Kamala Harris IEE
    Tulsi Gabbard EII

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    I like IEE for her- I hadn't considered that one but her eyes do look IEE.

    Time to write a 16types Adventures story where I battle her.

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    she wanted to jail parents for lazy children.



    her own father is ashamed of her

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    she gets along very well with children and emotional interactions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQetJL6uBGA

    seems unlikely that she has Fi as vulnerable function. an IEE threatening parents seems also unlikely
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    she wanted to jail parents for lazy children.



    her own father is ashamed of her

    photo_2020-11-16_22-58-15.jpg

    she gets along very well with children and emotional interactions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQetJL6uBGA

    seems unlikely that she has Fi as vulnerable function. an IEE threatening parents seems also unlikely
    Last sentence seems more like a character trait than a type related thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Last sentence seems more like a character trait than a type related thing.

    I don't think so. a type with Ne as base function would think more about all the reasons why kids skip school, all the possibilities that would lead to such a behaviour, especially with Fi as creative function. for example, they might think about the possibility that these kids live a life with constant struggles, with little money, a lot of stress and interpersonal problems within the famliy etc. kamala harris on the other hand wanted to take direct actions that force kids into school by threatening parents with jail time, which seems like a clear Se approach to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    I don't think so. a type with Ne as base function would think more about all the reasons why kids skip school, all the possibilities that would lead to such a behaviour, especially with Fi as creative function. for example, they might think about the possibility that these kids live a life with constant struggles, with little money, a lot of stress and interpersonal problems within the famliy etc. kamala harris on the other hand wanted to take direct actions that force kids into school by threatening parents with jail time, which seems like a clear Se approach to me.
    Se is not really about force. Socionics got that one wrong. Se is more epicurean than forceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Se is not really about force. Socionics got that one wrong. Se is more epicurean than forceful.
    it's not only force, it's that fact that she took direct, concrete actions without thinking about possible reasons for such a behaviour. Se is the concrete, factual perception of reality. you live in the moment, and notice all the things that are in your surroundings, including power dynamics. you see a person and judge how much power he or she has over others, and how you could use that information for your advantage. you notice whether or not you are strong enough to pressure another person, or how much pressure you can apply in a situation to get what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    she wanted to jail parents for lazy children.
    wait, hold up, she really said this?
    I guess I could see it either being warped Fi where she sees parents taking poor action (Te) with their children and blaming the parents (Fi); or it could be some kind of reasoning that it's a parent's job to motivate their kids, so they are at fault (a less warped, but perhaps flawed Ti). Does she ever explain this? I'm really curious.

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    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...ruancy-program

    Take us through this perp walk. What happened?


    She was in her house one morning, and the police showed up and handcuffed her. She had time to put on a jacket over her pajamas. And when she was walked by the police out of her apartment where she lived with her daughter, there were news cameras waiting, and she was booked by the police. What she said to me was that she was shocked. She was really floored. And she said to me, "You'd swear I'd killed somebody." It felt to her like a really excessive show of force for what was essentially a misunderstanding between her and her child's school.

    Wow, that's really fucking stupid. And I guess I found her reasoning

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...417-story.html
    "I believe that a child going without an education is tantamount to a crime," Harris said in a speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco. "So I decided I was going to start prosecuting parents for truancy. Well, this was a little controversial in San Francisco.

    Let's see if I got this right
    Problem: Child misses school and "that's a crime".
    Her Solution: So just blame the parents? Seems like she didn't consider the Te circumstances that complicate who is at fault and it also shows with her history as prosecutor in blocking evidence against those that were innocent.

    I mean does anybody really like Kamala? I knew I didn't like here before, but I didn't quite know why she rubbed me wrong, she just seemed like she is too sure of herself or something. It's nice to have some flesh to the intuition. Thank Anubis for this thread.

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