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    Default Filatova portraits and composites database

    Full database: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...CgTdaGuZPGRTH8

    I decided to gather all Filatova portraits I found (581 files, ~36 for each type) in one place for better accessibility. Duplicates and photos of the same person from different angles were removed. I also made composite images to show an average representative of the type or some other group.

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    http://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=Photographs_of_Types_by_Filatova
    https://uchebana5.ru/cont/1584259.html
    https://vk.com/album-49323745_173324097

    Composite images were made using Artbreeder. The output was very blurry, so I added details at cost of artifacts using Let's Enhance and colorized with ColorSurprise AI. Raw images without enhancements are also in the database.

    I also made animated type composites with MyHeritage Deep Nostalgia.
    The idea has its shortcomings as this tool can animate faces only using some universal expressions and can't show characteristic type expressions for this reason. It still may be useful as it shows the static look from the picture in different angles.

    Composite images examples (more in database):




    Last edited by qaz00; 03-13-2021 at 06:00 PM. Reason: update

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    for nonverbal VI it should not be useful
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    xxxp male's eyes look more intense/focused than xxxp female's to me

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    A few stereotypes about faces (mostly coming from Filatova and her database) are apparent. Have you shown it to the Eastern socionics communities ? They'll certainly be interested. Good job anyway.

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    This is fantastic. Great work!

    As BaruchJorgell said, stereotypes are apparent. I have an ILE friend with exactly that smile.

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    all these people look the same to me, lol

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    So...basically the differences are E smiles more than I.
    S looks tired and N looks alert.
    T has dry skin and F shiny skin.
    And p looks swollen and j normal.

    From VI I kinda agree with those portraits though.

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    The higher the Se is, the more you look like a killer.

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    The best looking guys are Gammas except the SEE. He really does look serial killer. The Deltas all look super gross. Alphas look psycho (Ne and Fe probably). Betas look average. Not noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiana View Post
    The Deltas all look super gross.
    It's the Alphas for me. They look like they will judge me when we meet. I'm judging them now so it will be mutual at least.

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    Since Kiana bumped, I checked the portraits again:
    SLE woman is my spirit expression (is this even a thing? lol) when I'm hiding something from someone and feigning ignorance for fun
    IEI is too kind-looking
    ILI woman is too perky, I don't think I've looked like that ever
    LIE woman looks like she's scheming to get your money and ESI woman is her accomplice
    I'll befriend ILI, SEE, LSE women

    ESE man looks like a demon incarnate
    I would befriend the SLE man, he looks misunderstood but has good character
    SEE man looks like he'll act manipulative but you'll see through the bullshit, then he'll be bored and forgot the whole scheme and end up becoming your best friend instead
    LII looks like that one guy who would interrupt in group convo and act offended by the mere fact someone made some negligible logical mistake, will act mopey when someone cuts him off and tells him no one cares about his pedantry
    ESI man looks like a very principled man
    SEI looks like my fucking boss who I typed as SEI lol

    Attractive ones-
    Women: IEI >>>>>>> ILI, SEE, ESE, SLE
    Men: SEE, SEI, ESI >>>>>>> LII, LSE

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    Strange. I think the intuitives look better than sensors.
    I like all the Ti guys, especially ILI and LSI. The LII is passable, but I feel like he’d be weak. ESE and EIE looks good but I don’t feel like I could get close to them. ESI looks like a sweet, religious, church going choir boy so we might have something to talk about if I was religious too. LIE looks scammy... like he’s wanting to pull some heist and I’m ok with it. LSE is the least good looking out of the ones I picked. Meh. Boring.


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    The ESE woman has a threatening smile e_e fuckin aggressive wtf. the EIE is on the cusp of calling someone an idiot.
    SEE is cute haha.

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    I’m not particularly drawn to any type but overall (for attraction) EIE and LSE
    I seem to be typically attracted to extroverts in exercises like these (like the big 5 composite as well)

    but also I wish they were included without the labels as well in case people wanted to avoid confirmation bias


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    UPDATE: Added animated type composites made with MyHeritage Deep Nostalgia

    The idea has its shortcomings as this tool can animate faces only using some universal expressions and can't show characteristic type expressions for this reason. It still may be useful as it shows the static look from the picture in different angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qaz00 View Post
    UPDATE: Added animated type composites made with MyHeritage Deep Nostalgia

    The idea has its shortcomings as this tool can animate faces only using some universal expressions and can't show characteristic type expressions for this reason. It still may be useful as it shows the static look from the picture in different angles.

    that's really interesting. I just don't know if it will help from a practical perspective. still, nice work.

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    those composites and portraits really suck....lol

    mine blows those to pieces.

    www.pinterest.com/socionics

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    pinterest is really a pain to navigate and to look at.

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    how does one VI nonwhites with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    how does one VI nonwhites with this?
    ? Facial expressions are the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    ? Facial expressions are the same
    Damn right they are. So is body language and tone of voice. It's pretty much within the grasp of everyone and anyone. A part of the "Collective Unconscious" as it were. Everyone knows what an angry person looks and sounds like. Shy? Lustful? Sad? Hopeful? If not the look we all at least understand the "sound" as it were.

    To expand upon this, there is a damn good reason "Music Theory" is a thing and why some people absolutely get it on a level that transcends most other considerations. Rick Beato and Alex Moukala come at it from different angles and approaches but the thing they're both getting at is the same. Great music is great and enjoyable by pretty much any sane person no matter what for damn good reasons.

    Some people say the OG Jazz musicians didn't know/comprehend Music Theory. That they just jammed out with some instruments and happened upon a sound that worked in spite of the codifications that "The White Man" had already invented and enforced upon music by that point. Beato had a story about his son that disproved that root and branch. He, unlike him, has the gift of "perfect pitch", the ability to hear any note in a vacuum and immediately identify it in any way you could dare to ask him. You can do this without that gift, but that takes the decades of practice he (Beato) has under his own belt. The kid as a toddler had his own unique terms to refer to things like "This song is in C-Major Aeolian" but it matters not what you call it, it is what it is and he nailed it square betwixt the eyes.

    Same would apply to the OG jazz musicians and all who followed regardless of race, origin, or creed. Music is a thing engrained upon our truly collective human unconsciousness. Anyone asking the question of "Why" a certain progression of notes or a given melody evokes a given emotion will come to similar conclusions. It's a thing engrained into reality as harshly and uncompromisingly as 2+2=4. Take from this what you will .

    I'd encourage anyone who has not to study Music Theory at least a little bit. Learning why you like the melodies you do could lead to quite a bit of self-discovery .

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Damn right they are. So is body language and tone of voice. It's pretty much within the grasp of everyone and anyone. A part of the "Collective Unconscious" as it were. Everyone knows what an angry person looks and sounds like. Shy? Lustful? Sad? Hopeful? If not the look we all at least understand the "sound" as it were.

    To expand upon this, there is a damn good reason "Music Theory" is a thing and why some people absolutely get it on a level that transcends most other considerations. Rick Beato and Alex Moukala come at it from different angles and approaches but the thing they're both getting at is the same. Great music is great and enjoyable by pretty much any sane person no matter what for damn good reasons.

    Some people say the OG Jazz musicians didn't know/comprehend Music Theory. That they just jammed out with some instruments and happened upon a sound that worked in spite of the codifications that "The White Man" had already invented and enforced upon music by that point. Beato had a story about his son that disproved that root and branch. He, unlike him, has the gift of "perfect pitch", the ability to hear any note in a vacuum and immediately identify it in any way you could dare to ask him. You can do this without that gift, but that takes the decades of practice he (Beato) has under his own belt. The kid as a toddler had his own unique terms to refer to things like "This song is in C-Major Aeolian" but it matters not what you call it, it is what it is and he nailed it square betwixt the eyes.

    Same would apply to the OG jazz musicians and all who followed regardless of race, origin, or creed. Music is a thing engrained upon our truly collective human unconsciousness. Anyone asking the question of "Why" a certain progression of notes or a given melody evokes a given emotion will come to similar conclusions. It's a thing engrained into reality as harshly and uncompromisingly as 2+2=4. Take from this what you will .

    I'd encourage anyone who has not to study Music Theory at least a little bit. Learning why you like the melodies you do could lead to quite a bit of self-discovery .
    Excellent post! As a guy who's been playing the piano for over a decade and just recently started learning theory I can't stress how useful music theory can be. Just like languages allow you to turn universal ideas into words we can understand, convey and manipulate freely, music theory is the language for understanding and conveying the universal concepts behind the music we love. Before studying the theory I was just a machine that could efficiently play pieces but I wasn't able to compose anything decent. Theory makes the process of composition sooo much easier. After all beautiful songs can be broken down into patterns and numerical ratios and these "building blocks" can then be used to recreate new pieces and so on. At least as a Ti type, being able to make sense out of the music I enjoy really opened my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Banana King View Post
    Excellent post! As a guy who's been playing the piano for over a decade and just recently started learning theory I can't stress how useful music theory can be. Just like languages allow you to turn universal ideas into words we can understand, convey and manipulate freely, music theory is the language for understanding and conveying the universal concepts behind the music we love. Before studying the theory I was just a machine that could efficiently play pieces but I wasn't able to compose anything decent. Theory makes the process of composition sooo much easier. After all beautiful songs can be broken down into patterns and numerical ratios and these "building blocks" can then be used to recreate new pieces and so on. At least as a Ti type, being able to make sense out of the music I enjoy really opened my eyes.
    I'd like to ask you what your favorite genre of music is, best bands to listen to get into it, and the "why" of it.

    I'd also like to ask you what composers you really "vibe" with. I can start. Yuki Kajiura, Keiichi Okabe, and Daisuke Ishiwatari. Yes, those are all Japanese composers. Two of which make regular use of "chaos language" (i.e. vocals that are utter nonsense and have no actual translation and there's a damn good reason for that). But the theorycraft they employ... I always knew they were smart as hell but once you actually understand a bit of theory boy do you start to appreciate them more. Even Yuki who many claim is just repeating herself at this point. Well, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

    As an aside, listen to Yuki's work in relation to the "Kara no Kyoukai" series. That was her at her best I'd say. Ufotable, Nasu, and anyone related to them knew to tap her when it came to a project they wanted to have an "impact" afterward.
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