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    Looks like we won everything, now we just have to make sure Trump doesn't steal it and replace our voting system with temper tantrums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Looks like we won everything, now we just have to make sure Trump doesn't steal it and replace our voting system with temper tantrums.
    Never underestimate the capacity of liberals to fight divisively among themselves.

    One of the advantages that conservatives have is that when one of them starts shouting “The sky is green, and Hillary committed the crime of the century by using the wrong email server”, then every conservative falls into line and starts shouting the same thing.
    Unity, even completely stupid unity, can be very powerful.

    Witness the one true platform of the Republican Party for at least the last fifty years. “Reduce taxes on the rich.” Say anything, but at the end of the day, reduce taxes on the rich. It worked, and is the primary source of economic inequality today.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats have no consistent platform, and instead are pulling this way, then that way, and have been consistently out-maneuvered by the conservatives when it comes to attaining goals.

    What we have now is a temporary backlash against the worst president we’ve ever seen. I don’t expect it to last. Unless we kill Fox News.

    Fox News isn’t really a news service so much as it is a propaganda machine which organizes the conservative masses to group-think. And conservatives do group-think. It is one of their defining characteristics, along with being more fearful in general and having a strong tendency towards supporting punitive leaders.

    Anyone who thinks that Fox is a news service needs to explain why knowing less about provable facts is correlated with watching more of Fox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Never underestimate the capacity of liberals to fight divisively among themselves.

    One of the advantages that conservatives have is that when one of them starts shouting “The sky is green, and Hillary committed the crime of the century by using the wrong email server”, then every conservative falls into line and starts shouting the same thing.
    Unity, even completely stupid unity, can be very powerful.
    Yeah, any observer of national politics can tell the Republicans are incredibly united right now [/sarcasm].

    Democrats have their own stupid bugbears. For 4 years it's been "Russian interference."

    Witness the one true platform of the Republican Party for at least the last fifty years. “Reduce taxes on the rich.” Say anything, but at the end of the day, reduce taxes on the rich. It worked, and is the primary source of economic inequality today.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats have no consistent platform, and instead are pulling this way, then that way, and have been consistently out-maneuvered by the conservatives when it comes to attaining goals.
    Democrats and Republicans often support the same goals. On any substantive issue they differ when the factions of the ruling class they represent differ.

    What we have now is a temporary backlash against the worst president we’ve ever seen. I don’t expect it to last. Unless we kill Fox News.
    Bush II wasn't even 20 years ago.

    Fox News isn’t really a news service so much as it is a propaganda machine which organizes the conservative masses to group-think. And conservatives do group-think. It is one of their defining characteristics, along with being more fearful in general and having a strong tendency towards supporting punitive leaders.
    Christ, you can practically only find any degree of skepticism over masking and lockdown measures in conservative media these days. Liberal media's stance on masking flipped overnight and the same people making fun of others for wearing masks are now just as earnestly shaming people who don't wear masks.

    Anyone who thinks that Fox is a news service needs to explain why knowing less about provable facts is correlated with watching more of Fox.
    Because correlation isn't causation. It seems unlikely to me that watching Fox magically causes you to forget information. More likely it's that more uneducated people watch Fox.

    Most conservatives are like animals. They have a fantastic instinctual sense for discerning when their experience and what they're told don't line up, but they don't have the background or individual ability for making a constructive framework from their observations. Liberals, and the sorts of conservatives and libertarians who fancy themselves intellectuals, don't have this ability and are annoyingly credulous if what they're being told comes from a "reliable source."

    Since you like statistics re. differences between conservatives and liberals, liberals trust the media more. Even more alarming (especially if you consider yourself a liberal), liberals' trust in media has increased in the past few years, even as they've gotten shittier and shittier.

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