Do you renounce Satan, the author of sin and the prince of darkness?

[AWellArmedCat]

Well there's an easy answer to that one. See, Christianity is true and the very best lies are spiced with bit of the truth so as to trick even the most intelligent (a gift from God BTW) into refusing said truth and condoning their own damnation (the only way that actually happens as well BTW).

The "true" parts were acknowledged and the false parts were discarded. Said pagan faiths intuitively got they were missing something. They had the concept of a "hidden" god. A god they knew somehow existed yet their pantheon didn't acknowledge nor offer an avenue of worship. A popular statement from the earliest evangelists was that they represented that hidden god. That got their foot in the door. After that well, as they say, the rest is history. There is a damn good reason the pagans dropped Thor/Odin/etc. for the true faith and the one true God and his son Jesus Christ.

It's happening at a great clip in the "East" as we speak fun fact. By around 2040 China's gonna be a "Christian Nation" full stop. As in, there will be at that time so many ardent followers of Christ that the Communist Party will get booted out much as Queen Isabella booted out the heathens/heretics/unbelievers from Spain upon the conclusion of the Reconquista.

Despite what many may say, I state again why it was a good and most merciful of plays. You get to have a peaceful and well-run country one of two ways. Either said "nation" is composed of a largely similar genetic stock (i.e. everyone's of the same "ethnic" group by and large) or you have a panoply of humanity who, despite that, all kneel before and worship the same God. If both of these aren't the case? Well, the blood will flow freely, frequently, and logically unnecessarily until one of them is in the long run. I don't like this, but history time and again states this to be the case.

So I'd beseech any who get that to get on the real "right side of history" as the haters of the truth/Christ so often state they are. Confess that Jesus is the Christ and God has risen him from the dead. Truly, honestly, earnestly. Renounce Satanic "privilege" and embrace the heavy yet ultimately negligent weight of penance for thy sins. You'll find yourself far happier overall if ya do .

I just did some quick Googling and found that the fastest growing religion seems to be Islam currently, and it is projected to overtake Christianity as the most dominant religion in the world towards the end of this century. While indeed it seems Christianity will continue to grow for quite awhile it seems to be doing so at a much slower rate comparatively. I can't say that I'm necessarily happy about this trend though as the influence of Islam on countries doesn't seem terribly positive in many cases. Additionally, I live in the "East" currently and can tell you that most Japanese people I've met aren't particularly interested in Christianity beyond it being fashionable to have western-style weddings in churches.

One more thing, I don't feel any hate towards Christians/Christianity as you seemed to imply that I do. I come from a Christian background as most Americans do, and find it plenty interesting to study (I particularly enjoy Jordan Peterson's interpretations of Genesis, and Religion For Breakfast's videos on various aspects of the religion), and I even learned to read Koine Greek well enough to read John. If following it improves your life then I'm happy for you. I was simply answering the poll

[K0m0d0]

Given the demonization of the ancestral Anglo-Saxon gods by Christians I'm assuming they got absorbed into the concept of "Satan" so no. I'm not really religious at all, but I feel much more connection to Tyr, Woden, Thunor, and Frig than I do to Christian figures. It's very sad to me that we know so little about what those figures meant to the cultures who recognized them. Even what we know of the somewhat cognate Norse mythology is largely through a very Christian lens

That's not to say that I have no interest in Christianity though. It's terribly interesting given the blend of theological concepts that it's formed from, but in terms of felt connection for me there's not much there

I'd say I'm similar in that respect. From what I can tell the iconography of Satan as we know today is based in large part off of Pan from Greek mythology, and the trident he occasionally wields in more cartoonish depictions is something that might've been taken from Poseidon or Shiva. I've noticed that more explicitly favorable interpretations even draw parallels between him and Prometheus, who introduced to mankind the knowledge of how to use fire and was punished for it, similar to how it went down when Satan appeared as the serpent of Eden (if that's who it was) and led them to knowledge of good and evil via the fruit. Or Enki, who in original Sumerian myths was the one who came, also as a serpent, instructing Noah to build the ark (there's much to indicate that the Epic of Atra-Hasis, rather than Abrahamic sources, contained the original story of the flood), and Melek-Taus of Yazidi mythology, who refused to bow to Adam as he was instructed, which he was rewarded for instead of punished (it's worth noting that it was out of devotion rather than pride, so that's hardly a Satanic archetype). There's also Adonis, who was thought to be linked with Satan by the Adonists before they were snuffed out by the Nazi government, but I don't remember the whole story behind that one.

So, my answer to the main question of the thread would also be a no. Insofar as he's thought to be in the guise of any of the previously mentioned figures, unless that somehow includes wildly different characters with ugly-sounding names like Baal, Moloch or Huitzilopochtli, who take kids as blood sacrifices as you'd expect from classic Hollywood Satanism (largely invented by the religious right), I don't pick up much cause for revulsion compared to what's instructed of Yahweh's people in Leviticus and other such texts. Otherwise if we're referring just plainly to some cosmic or metaphysical principle of evil itself, I'd need to be convinced that human virtues or transgressions actually hold that amount of significance, beyond just ourselves and the world.
Admittedly I may have openly looked to associate with the guy during my edgy teen phase, but nowadays I'm tending more towards Thelema or Daoism. I still remain without any interest in putting myself in the hands of any religion for the masses that has us accept a supreme judge for our fates, or insist on faith/worship as a surrogate for or prerequisite to knowledge.

@End - Could you explain the reasoning behind those third and fourth paragraphs? I'm well aware of the rocky history between the CCP and various religious groups that have given them cause to rebel, but if you ask me I think the Uyghur Muslims nowadays would have more of a score to settle with them than anyone else, and they probably have more numbers behind them. So assuming it can only be an ultimate battle for religious and ideological dominance rather than an appeal to democratic interests (as foreign as that may seem to that part of the world), then those Christians would have a lot more to contend with than just the ruling party, and their odds don't look so good on that front. They'd have better luck with the Koreans.

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I just did some quick Googling and found that the fastest growing religion seems to be Islam currently, and it is projected to overtake Christianity as the most dominant religion in the world towards the end of this century. While indeed it seems Christianity will continue to grow for quite awhile it seems to be doing so at a much slower rate comparatively. I can't say that I'm necessarily happy about this trend though as the influence of Islam on countries doesn't seem terribly positive in many cases. Additionally, I live in the "East" currently and can tell you that most Japanese people I've met aren't particularly interested in Christianity beyond it being fashionable to have western-style weddings in churches.

One more thing, I don't feel any hate towards Christians/Christianity as you seemed to imply that I do. I come from a Christian background as most Americans do, and find it plenty interesting to study (I particularly enjoy Jordan Peterson's interpretations of Genesis, and Religion For Breakfast's videos on various aspects of the religion), and I even learned to read Koine Greek well enough to read John. If following it improves your life then I'm happy for you. I was simply answering the poll

We shall see. The Muslims foolishly embrace polygamy and thus I can attribute their seemingly rapid growth to what it entails from a basic and raw biological standpoint. Quantity has a quality all its own one hellspawn said, but fellow ILI's aplenty (though perhaps not sharing in my theistic convictions) put it best. One man is worth a thousand if he is extraordinary! You... won't get even a small handful of said extraordinary men out of the tenets of Islam and the society that dogma tends to produce. Again, for a truly extraordinary society, you need something like Christianity. Islam, Communism, et al. ain't it nor will they get you anywhere close.

You weren't outright hostile so I won't issue a witch test just yet. Though I am a bit worried about your reverence towards Jordan Peterson. People can have good quotes and all, but the dude's now a proven grifter whom I'm certain would fail that test despite whatever positive things he may have said of the one true faith. He'd be better off accepting the gospel his vaunted "Western Civilization" is based upon and confessing his conversion to Christ for all to see. That he has not tells me all I need to know at present.

Again, if Christ is so wrong, why does the mere mention of his name inspire such frothing and irrational hatred? One could just laugh him off like a metaphysical/theological Mel Brooks yet they don't. Why?

[K0m0d0]

I'm quite certain that whatever "frothing and irrational hatred" goes on is usually not so much for the figure of Christ himself as it is for the evangelism on his behalf. I'd be perfectly fine speaking of him from a neutral standpoint, and it's likely that you'd find the same attitude among most other non-Christians. But it's a different story when we bring the idea of indebtedness to him and the Christian faith as a serious point of dialogue to the table. Imagine that someone came to you with the uncompromising assertion that Zarathustra is the one true son of God and sole condition for "salvation" that you must give your life to, and didn't do much more to convince you than with some repetitive, alternating combinations of fiery and flowery phrases that wholly disregard any rational appeal by default, leaving you at a loss for arguing with them on those grounds. You'd probably be confused, and maybe even amused by this at first, and then after much of the same thing you'd be understandably fed up with it, in such a way that whenever you hear the name, you have some idea of what you might be in for. Then when it comes down to expressing your mind, it could easily seem like irrational hatred to those adhering to this belief.

[aixelsyd]

[Poptart]

Satan is bae <3

[Adam Strange]

I have something I need to do but my ‘are you feeling it’ radar displays 0. It’s only 2 hrs to do, I have been avoiding it for hours already ;(
Also thinking of taking a leave tomorrow to sleep the whole day bec it’s the time of the month anyway but I also can’t because I’ll have to finish something important and have a long meeting
I’m also sad since yesterday bec I remembered sad stuff
My stomach also hurts a bit now, and I accidentally bit the side of my inner cheek and now it hurts
My lips are also chapped and it’s bleeding a bit
My stomach hurts

Everything hurts
Have mercy god I’ll renounce satan now ;(

Holy shit. I have days exactly like this. Exactly.

I started reading this because I saw "my 'are you feeling it' radar displays 0.", and I thought "That's a perfect description of how I feel about doing work for other people, rather than for me.

@one, call in sick. Right now. Go to bed, and when you wake up, whenever that is, take two aspirins and start doing the stuff that's due RIGHT AWAY. If you procrastinate after sleeping, you won't get it done at all.

[myresearch]

I was able to check that earlier so I got up lol thanks.
I did take medicine just to finish the damn thing. I wasn't able to call in sick now though I'm currently regretting it. This will be a long day I think and my Si is dying

I wonder if Satan for Gammas could be working for other people. Fucking hate it, though I love working and getting busy in general.

Take care one, because they don't care about your well being at all. I exactly feel the same about working for other people, although I like working.

[peteronfireee2]

Please do not support Satan or make it trendy. WARNING. Disturbing content:



SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE

What is Ritual Abuse?

The term ‘ritual abuse’ was first used in the early 1980’s, to describe a particular form of abuse, (predominantly of children), involving organised ritual as a central feature. The term first appeared in North American literature and was used in Australia from 1984 onwards (Scott, 2001). Since this time, the term ritual abuse has been defined in various ways, by various people, including survivors, academics and workers from professional fields that come into contact with survivors and perpetrators e.g. police, social workers, psychologists etc.

Ritual abuse has existed for longer than the last twenty years. Survivors talk of their childhood experiences of ritual abuse, occurring in the 1950’s and 60’s. Ritually abusive practices within families are often trans-generational, meaning they are practised by various generations of family members over many years. Evidence, derived from court cases and personal accounts, indicate ritual abuse existed as far back as the 16th century.

The extent to which it is practiced in Australia is hard to determine due to a number of factors, including the highly secretive nature of ritual abuse practices and a culture of disbelief which further hides it and, which influences and impedes political and social institutions’ responses toward it.

The 1989 Report by the Ritual Abuse Task Force of Los Angeles County Commission for Women, defined ritual abuse in the following way:

Ritual abuse usually involves repeated abuse over an extended period of time. The physical abuse is severe, sometimes including torture and killing. The sexual abuse is usually painful, sadistic and humiliating, intended as a means of gaining dominance over the victim. The psychological abuse is devastating and involves the use of ritual indoctrination. It includes mind control techniques which convey to the victim a profound terror of the cult members and of evil spirits they believe cult members can command. Both during and after the abuse most victims are in a state of terror mind control and dissociation. (ASCA, 2002).

Survivors of ritual abuse may give varying descriptions of their experiences. However, a number of factors generally feature across accounts including:

• The abuse includes physical, sexual and psychological abuse
• The abuse constitutes a range of criminal acts
• It is systematic, can be ceremonial and often occurs within a group setting (usually more than one perpetrator at a time, but not always)
• Like all abuse, ritual abuse is about power and control, but is designed to more expressly meet the needs of a group, with the specific purpose of indoctrination into that group’s belief system or ideology
• Mind control techniques or programming plays a significant part in keeping group members faithful to the group and its needs. Much of this programming is about engendering a sense of terror within group members, so that they will not leave the group or expose the group’s criminal practices to outsiders.

Survivors’ accounts of their experiences of ritual abuse also include attempts to clearly distinguish this kind of abuse from other kinds of abuse they may have experienced. For example, in Sara Scott’s book, The politics and experience of ritual abuse: beyond disbelief (2001, p.62-80), women survivors of childhood abuse, including ritual abuse, clearly distinguished between their experiences of more “regular” forms of familial abuse, and their experiences of abusive cult ritual, prostitution and child pornography. However, all of these women’s accounts illustrated that the different kinds of abuse and exploitation they survived were interconnected within a culture where the abuse of women and children is normalised – a daily reality.

Survivors have also questioned the fact that the term ritual abuse has become too broadly applied. For many survivors ritual abuse, where a belief system or ideology plays a key role in abusive ritual, must not be confused with “ritualistic abuse” –abuse which is perpetrated in a habitualised manner, such as the sexual abuse of a child perpetrated on a daily basis.

The term and practice of ritual abuse has also been closely linked with other categories and practises of abuse, including: –
a) “organised abuse”, which refers to the abuse and exploitation of children through organised crime (prostitution and pornography) and paedophile rings;
b) institutional abuse, which refers to the abuse of persons within political and social institutions, such as within schools, orphanages and mental health facilities etc;
c) “organised, sadistic abuse” which is often used as an umbrella term across these kinds of abuse, wherein ritual abuse features as a more extreme example.

Who Perpetrates Ritual Abuse?

Initial discussion of ritual abuse in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s predominantly implicated satanic cults in the perpetration of ritual abuse against children. However, not every group or cult dedicated to satanic worship practices ritual abuse.

Moreover, ritual abuse is not exclusively practised within such groups. Groups or cults organised around other religious or quasi-religious belief systems, including Satanic cults, have been associated with the use of abusive ritual to maintain control over members. Ritual abuse which occurs within religious groups is often called “cult-based ritual abuse” (Kelley, 1988, p.229).

Religion is not always a defining factor of groups who practice ritual abuse. White supremacy groups such as Nazi cults and the Klu Klux Klan have been associated with such practices. Groups involved in organised crime and paedophilia have also been identified as sites of ritual abuse. Ritual abuse which is not part of a developed belief system, but which is primarily about the sexual exploitation of children has been called “pseudo-ritual abuse” (Kelley, 1988, p.229).

Groups who practice ritual abuse are always hierarchical – the abuse is used to maintain this hierarchy and to benefit those at its higher levels. Benefits may include power and prestige, sexual gratification and financial wealth.

Ritual abuse may be practised within family groups across generations, or it may be associated with groups or institutions external to survivors’ families. For example, some reports concern the recruiting of children from orphanages and day-care centres, for abuse within paedophile rings. Ritual abuse may be perpetrated through connections between families and external groups.
Impact on Survivors

Impacts of ritual abuse on survivors ritual abuse has profound effects upon the lives of child and adult survivors. The range of psychological symptoms and emotional effects survivors may experience include:

• Trauma related symptoms such as flashbacks, dissociation, amnesia and triggered flight or fight reactions to circumstances which in some way remind the survivor of abusive experiences
• Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) or Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD)
• Self-harm and eating issues
• Suicidal thoughts and attempts
• Confusing concepts of good and evil
• Preoccupation with death
• Memories of ritualistic practices such as Black Masses and sacrifices to Satan and those which involves gang rape, murder, the abuse of animals and being buried alive
• Memories of symbols and ceremonial objects used in rituals such as inverted crosses, swastikas and chalices
• Memories of perpetrators dressed in ceremonial and bizarre costumes
• Memories of being tortured and/or deprived of sleep, food and water
• Memories of being drugged during rituals
• Phobias of symbols associated with rituals, blood, certain colours, drugs, incense, candles and being confined in small spaces
• Shame, guilt and blame
• Addictions.

This list is not exhaustive, but simply gives us some idea of the immense impact that ritual abuse has on survivors. It also illuminates the tremendous strength of those who survive ritual abuse. Surviving in a culture of disbelief adds to the immense impact of ritual abuse on survivors, is the frustration and despair of attempting to survive within a wider culture where ritual abuse experiences are disbelieved and denied. The culture of disbelief is further compounded through the very social and political systems and institutions, which are supposed to promote the best interests of survivors, as those requiring special personal support and legal protection and justice.

Australian Governments have been unwilling to acknowledge that ritual abuse exists. It has been suggested that the association of ritual abuse practices with government institutions (for example, orphanages and mental health facilities) has rendered governments afraid of litigation, should they fully acknowledge its existence. For whatever reasons, governments have not encouraged adequate responses toward the issue from those systems which come into contact with survivors and perpetrators. This includes the criminal justice and health-care systems, which are responsible for the provision of services that promote the health and well-being of survivors of sexual violence

[ContractedCriminalboy]

Of course. And I know most people praising Satan are just edge lords but the theistic Luciferians out there have to be the most self hating idiots in the world. Satan literally hates your ass with a level of hatred greater than any man could ever feel. You being a human being praising Satan is like you being a Jew praising Himmler except x1,000 worse. Praise all you want but he still hates your very being and wants nothing more than to see you suffer and be destroyed.

[peteronfireee2]

This list is not exhaustive, but simply gives us some idea of the immense impact that ritual abuse has on survivors. It also illuminates the tremendous strength of those who survive ritual abuse. Surviving in a culture of disbelief adds to the immense impact of ritual abuse on survivors, is the frustration and despair of attempting to survive within a wider culture where ritual abuse experiences are disbelieved and denied. The culture of disbelief is further compounded through the very social and political systems and institutions, which are supposed to promote the best interests of survivors, as those requiring special personal support and legal protection and justice.

Australian Governments have been unwilling to acknowledge that ritual abuse exists. It has been suggested that the association of ritual abuse practices with government institutions (for example, orphanages and mental health facilities) has rendered governments afraid of litigation, should they fully acknowledge its existence. For whatever reasons, governments have not encouraged adequate responses toward the issue from those systems which come into contact with survivors and perpetrators. This includes the criminal justice and health-care systems, which are responsible for the provision of services that promote the health and well-being of survivors of sexual violence

A damn shame. smh

[xerx]

Room 101, the Pope peering into your soul, knows your phobia.

[EUDAEMONIUM]