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    First impression is LIE. Hard to take that British accent, tho.

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    LII?

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    seems S, Fe valued
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    First impression is LIE. Hard to take that British accent, tho.
    See maybe? Cd cog face somewhat

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    Beta J. Maybe LSI.

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    LIE, LII, EII, ESE, SEI, SLE, LSI (2), SEE, EIE. That's a lot

    LSI is winning so far I guess, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    LIE, LII, EII, ESE, SEI, SLE, LSI (2), SEE, EIE. That's a lot

    LSI is winning so far I guess, lol
    Yay, I'm winning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Beta J. Maybe LSI.
    Seems Gamma, but I thought he seems CD cog so LSI could be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Seems Gamma, but I thought he seems CD cog so LSI could be it.
    Yeah his eyes have an intensity that might look similar to an ILI like Magnus Carlsen but it's not the same. Fe has a certain heat to it that seems like hatred or gleeful sadism at times lol.

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    Idk. His eyes look Fe valuing definitely. They also look dreamy and even a little romantic, but he's talking in a logical str8 man way, and uses logical/thinking type words. I guess all that fits with LSI.

    I don't think LIE is a bad typing for him either though.

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    First presenter - INTJ Robespierre

    Second presenter - INTP Balzac


    The morality and ethics of artificial general intelligence systems. Such a nice subject.
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    Thinking of this, maybe LSI, if not LII. Not EII ash, I've corrected myself quickly.

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    VI's like a ISFp to me. Even has the dumbfounded look that is typical. As a second typing SLI.

    The other typings are just bizarre to me. LSI? LIE? Really? Man don't quite your day jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Yeah his eyes have an intensity that might look similar to an ILI like Magnus Carlsen but it's not the same. Fe has a certain heat to it that seems like hatred or gleeful sadism at times lol.
    Afaik Magnus is mostly typed LXI. (two cents)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    Afaik Magnus is mostly typed LXI. (two cents)
    Well I've never seen that typing of him myself.... It might fit though. Where did you get it from?

    This pic: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FKV8wJXdUMQ/maxresdefault.jpg looks oddly similar to that guy in the OP, so I'm willing to consider it.

    Edit: Magnus looks like an introverted @kingslayer too so it might make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Well I've never seen that typing of him myself.... It might fit though. Where did you get it from?

    This pic: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FKV8wJXdUMQ/maxresdefault.jpg looks oddly similar to that guy in the OP, so I'm willing to consider it.

    Edit: Magnus looks like an introverted @kingslayer too so it might make sense.
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    I'm actually disturbed that people are VIing this guy as a LIE, or LSI. Back to the drawing board kids. You don't have a handle on socionics yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valhalla View Post
    I'm actually disturbed that people are VIing this guy as a LIE, or LSI. Back to the drawing board kids. You don't have a handle on socionics yet.
    Says the guy with 71 posts and no track record to back him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Says the guy with 71 posts and no track record to back him up.
    Muahaha.

    Its not me whose credibility is on display here. Its okay, we all make bad typings every once in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    He wishes
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    SEI>IEI

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    Roko is James Cordon lite+

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by valhalla View Post
    I'm actually disturbed that people are VIing this guy as a LIE, or LSI. Back to the drawing board kids. You don't have a handle on socionics yet.
    I'm sticking with LIE. I know 23 of them in real life, and while this guy is fatter than any LIE I know and his accent is irritatingly British, his body movements and spacial (un)awareness in the first sixty seconds of the video are pure LIE.

    He moves exactly like I do. I mean, exactly. I know one LIE who is about 33 who moves a lot like Roko, but is a bit more jerky, but it's still essentially the same.

    To my critics, I suggest mentioning that I've taken the very unscientific field of "VI" to a whole other level. Lol.


    NTR: His accent is from some part of Britain and really irritates me, because I once worked with a guy who has exactly the same accent and that guy was a complete asshole. This is an association that I need to lose, though. It's not constructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I'm sticking with LIE. I know 23 of them in real life, and while this guy is fatter than any LIE I know and his accent is irritatingly British, his body movements and spacial (un)awareness in the first sixty seconds of the video are pure LIE.

    He moves exactly like I do. I mean, exactly. I know one LIE who is about 33 who moves a lot like Roko, but is a bit more jerky, but it's still essentially the same.

    To my critics, I suggest mentioning that I've taken the very unscientific field of "VI" to a whole other level. Lol.


    NTR: His accent is from some part of Britain and really irritates me, because I once worked with a guy who has exactly the same accent and that guy was a complete asshole. This is an association that I need to lose, though. It's not constructive.
    Hmm, interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valhalla View Post
    Hmm, interesting.
    Not to derail the thread, but I can often tell SLI's by the way they walk. They seem to have a graceful, easy looseness to them, while still exhibiting great posture.

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    Probabilities: how much less or more likely are SEIs to lead such a lecture (a mix of computer science, AI, futurology and a bit of ethics/'make machines don't kill us')? And be genuinely excited about it? You name it.


    (it's not impossible, but)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    Probabilities: how much less or more likely are SEIs to lead such a lecture (a mix of computer science, AI, futurology and a bit of ethics/'make machines don't kill us')? And be genuinely excited about it? You name it.


    (it's not impossible, but)
    This is part of what I was thinking but I didn't say it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    Probabilities: how much less or more likely are SEIs to lead such a lecture (a mix of computer science, AI, futurology and a bit of ethics/'make machines don't kill us')? And be genuinely excited about it? You name it.


    (it's not impossible, but)
    Oh God, ofc they might lead a lecture like this. And frankly, this dude never really said anything logical, and certainly not Te based logic. Seriously if you think this guy is LIE its one of the worst socionic typings this forum has ever seen.

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    I'll just be straight up. Adam, if you think this guy is your identical, then you are not an ENTj. In fact, I am running on this belief from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valhalla View Post
    Oh God, ofc they might lead a lecture like this. And frankly, this dude never really said anything logical, and certainly not Te based logic. Seriously if you think this guy is LIE its one of the worst socionic typings this forum has ever seen.
    Might, yes, but what is the probability given type? Furthermore, I didn't say LIE. I'm not even keen on them being Te valuing (as I've posted above). And I also don't think you have any authority over typing issues (neither do I tbh).

    this dude never really said anything logical


    Yeah, they are totally not saying anything logically coherent and predictive in, for example, their talking about 'why should be think about safety of AI (AGI)'. Totally not stating reasons. And then, with bootstraping... Totally not proposing a solution.


    Looking at their non-VI things, they are probably Ti > Te (again).

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    Quote Originally Posted by valhalla View Post
    I'll just be straight up. Adam, if you think this guy is your identical, then you are not an ENTj. In fact, I am running on this belief from now on.
    @valhalla, I was just thinking about this video this morning, and short of me looking him up and hanging out with him for a few hours, there is really no way to objectively determine his sociotype.

    Oh, well...

    In the meantime, how would you recognize an ENTj?

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    Adam, I've already decided you and I are not duals. I am no type. You can be ENTj. I feel like, just blah around you. You are helpful at times, and some times I smile and nod my head, but otherwise, nothing. I feel next to nothing.

    I will say that I feel a sort of revulsion towards Roko. Like a gut revulsion to his smug arrogance, which to me, clearly comes from nervous insecurity. Defensiveness is not attractive when it goes hand in hand with arrogance.

    Clown World 2020, where the rules are made up and the points don't matter.

    You'all want this guy to be your idea of a Jack London, then fuck it. Its been opposite year all year. Fuck it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    @valhalla, I was just thinking about this video this morning, and short of me looking him up and hanging out with him for a few hours, there is really no way to objectively determine his sociotype.

    Oh, well...

    In the meantime, how would you recognize an ENTj?
    LIE are Ej types to begin with, so everything from energy to the way they express themselves is different. LIE tend to be much much more energetic and there is something somewhat boyish in the way they express themselves (same for ILE as well). It's a type that sort of stands at the edge of innovation. They appear cold and sometimes even cruel. I've also known a few that are prone to using cringey corporate humor.

    LIE is one of the easiest types to recognize, imo. I can usually tell them immediately when they walk into a room, and based on what positions they hold in society. How they talk is also extremely important. There's a wealth of knowledge that they put together. LIE is the person who "knows everything" more than LSE or any other type.
    @valhalla I have Ben Shapiro as LIE actually. What do you think of that. I read one of his books and if he has put it together, then he has to be LIE, imo just because of how he's able to reference 20 different things in every paragraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    In the meantime, how would you recognize an ENTj?
    That's a no-brainer: they all look like Adam Strange!
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    I'm not decided yet, but there were quite a few moments in the video where he had that typical SLI/ILI look of annoyance of having to listen to dumb questions. He gets angry for people not understanding, and quite impatient, not very willing to listen. The whole posture to me is unlike that of LSIs, who can get quite annoyed too, but they get like that when people 'violate the rules'.

    Here, going into passive/aggressive mode:



    ETA: after some more watching, I'm convinced there is a lot of Fi in his body language, but it is not Fi-ego.
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    I'm guessing one of the types with Ti... Maybe ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    I'm not decided yet, but there were quite a few moments in the video where he had that typical SLI/ILI look of annoyance of having to listen to dumb questions. He gets angry for people not understanding, and quite impatient, not very willing to listen. The whole posture to me is unlike that of LSIs, who can get quite annoyed too, but they get like that when people 'violate the rules'.

    Here, going into passive/aggressive mode:



    ETA: after some more watching, I'm convinced there is a lot of Fi in his body language, but it is not Fi-ego.



    Is that really so difficult to identify the INTJ (Robespierre) type?
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    Strong Si lead. I could see a case for Fe or Te creative.

    Absolutely NO to LSI or LIE. Compare him to Elon Musk (LSI) and (I see he has been mentioned before) Ben Shapiro (LIE). I understand many on this forum struggle with recognizing LSI properly, but damn it's bad. The confusion on LIE lies around Adam Strange's typing: figure that one out and you won't be making these mistakes with LIE.

    If one must insist on something else than Si lead, at least go for an Alpha or Delta type. This person's Si-Ne is through he roof.


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