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    ISFP has good chance based on what was known before
    Si value and F type are clear for me, was pointed before. J types are generally more stable. having IR effects with you - it's not Fi and reminds SEI

    to hide in this time the important data about yourself as nonverbal in your video reduces the chance to get the correct type. though anyone active here should saw your video already

    to understand your correct type will help you to type people IRL near and to check the type by irrational IR effects with them. also read recommended Filatova's book and then look at people of different types in examples as a start
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    i type u as gay, love chu!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Lol you'd be half right As long as they cute...
    You seem Se valuing by the way, the way you described the reason why you were attracted by some guy once seemed like the typical Se aesthetic appreciation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Hottttt hockey player guy with his beautiful green eyes
    ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Lol You have any enneagram suggestions for me btw?

    Yes, Type ******.

    I mean, I thiiiink you might be a 2? I don't know you enough but you seem kind of like that. Either that, or a 3 like me, but less pro... i'm 3w4 which would make me a bit more "obscure". You seem as your banner below describes: 3w2. But i'd probably go for 2w3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Cool, thanks. Appreciate the input.

    Would you say I'm Se dom? Or do I seem more Fe dom like it seems many others have suggested here & Se is just in my function stack?

    EIE 2w3 or 3w2 maybe?
    You're loud like an EIE, and it'd make sense for the ESE votes, but you know, i've met ESE's, and they don't seem to have similar tastes... Even if they have a 4 dimensional Se, they're not into Se aestheticism. Hence why they're LII's duals, and let's be honest, they are the least Se shit on earth. One cannot fool their nature, or else, why take Socionics as a thing anyway?

    Back to the argument for Se valuing, and... EIE, most likely... Judging by what i've seen you value, Se aesthethicism and power, it would indicate Se mobilising (mostly that, over Se leading).

    We, people, often think we're great at our mobilising functions (even if we're not), and i've seen many EIE's, mostly the males, trying to act a lot like Se leads... just like I often want to seem like an LSE wannabe in real life, but we're not gonna talk about that now.......

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    @LMFAO. SLE. I'm very sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    @thegreenfaerie any thoughts you could add? I feel like we interact sort of frequently on here.
    I haven't been very active on the site, so I haven't been seeing a whole lot, but Fe dom makes a lot sense. I could see where Se-valuing has potential, or just really strong un-valued Se I might try branching out a bit with opinions also, i.e. talking with family and friends in person about socionics, sharing descriptions, some of the more "important" dichotomies (rational/irraitonal, intratim/extratim) and see what they have to say too. Also just follow your own instinct, really look at the IE's blocks as a whole very carefully and be honest with yourself. I think for a lot of people it's really hard to get typed accurately in this sort of manner on online forums and the like, even with videos, there are too many pieces missing still. Look at your life and your personality as a whole and if you have close people in your life you can talk about this with, definitely do it! It will probably take some time to reach an accurate typing, but you'll get there, don't try to rush it like some of us

    With that said, if I had to guess based on what I do know, I would guess Fe dom for sure. In time more you said gave an impression of Si-valuing, but it's entirely possible that this is wrong. I do recall you having some issues with that aspect of your typing, which could be saying something, as you know yourself.

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    your field of work and hours spent would support an extrovert typing as well as decent Se
    "winging it" style of the typing video looked pretty EP.

    two questions I thought of:

    how would the knowledge of your tru socionics type benefit you, or change you?

    would you consider yourself a noticer of loopholes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Explain more?


    Ok right off the bat, Fi PoLR:



    16. Who decides what morality is?

    imo society does, but that's probably because I struggle to judge things as unequivocally right or wrong myself. Many people I know would say, I'm sure, that it's defined by themself. Even killing, in a case of self defense, I would say is fine. Intentionally harming others is never a kind thing to do & should be avoided if possible. I think that's a pretty good rule of thumb to follow.

    18. Is a “wrong” act okay if nobody ever knows about it?

    As long as it only negatively affects yourself. Define wrong? For example, someone who's deeply religious might think sex before marriage is wrong, but to me & millions of other people we see no problem with it. I think just realizing that you're going to mess up & not be perfect is how you should handle it. I don't know if I'd say it's ok. If I murdered someone & no one found out about it, i wouldn't say it's ok. It's just hopefully something to not repeat, & "wrong" can exist on a wide scale.

    5. Should people care more about doing the right thing, or doing things right?

    What makes something the "right" thing? Right by me? Right by someone else? Right by the law? Right by society?

    Same with "doing things right". Right by set standards? As in following directions?

    Umm.. idk.

    Struggle to judge by and define ethics. Someone high in ethics would have a clear answer to these questions. "This is clearly right and this is clearly wrong."




    Here you described the kind of person you don't like, someone who is high in your PoLR.

    c) The type of people you are repulsed by

    Self righteous people. People that take every little thing or joke personally. People that say they're "open minded" but dismiss anyone's thoughts/ideas/opinions that don't align with their own & don't care to reasses things based on new information. Selfish people. People that easily make value judgements about people, & likely in debates resort to calling you names like "heartless" instead of giving rational evidence/thoughts to debunk your stance. People that are easily offended or use that word a lot. People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad". People that drown on & on about "morals" or being a "morally good person". Overly judgy people. The type of people that say "I would never do something like that". Hypocrites.

    19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

    Being realistic, I probably think of most people as being neutral. I try to give to charities whenever companies are raising money for the make a wish foundation or something like that. I do think society as a whole deserves voluntary compassion.

    Selfishness & being self absorbed. Also, people being judgy & trying to push their "morals" on others.

    Here is a part of the SLE Fi PoLR descprition that touches on this.


    From SLE Fi PoLR
    They do not like it when they are judged morally or when their lack of attention to others' feelings is criticized. SLEs are uncomfortable in overly sentimental occasions, and in situations where they are expected or required to offer emotional support. Many SLEs are highly emotionally guarded, and may become touchy or apprehensive if they expect that others may judge their character harshly.


    From SLE Fe description
    SLEs tend to highly value vibrant emotional environments in which they can freely interact and be themselves, without incurring moral judgment or inflaming their natural emotional guard...

    SLEs are most comfortable in dynamic environments in which they are able to let loose and not worry about guarding themselves emotionally. They interact most freely with people skilled at creating these open-ended types of emotional environments, who have little interest in moral judgments external to the general mood or expression, and who react tactfully and non-critically.


    Moral judgement seems to be an overall theme in people you don't like.
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    Here you have answers the seems you value T > F


    c) The type of people you are repulsed by

    Self righteous people. People that take every little thing or joke personally. People that say they're "open minded" but dismiss anyone's thoughts/ideas/opinions that don't align with their own & don't care to reasses things based on new information. Selfish people. People that easily make value judgements about people, & likely in debates resort to calling you names like "heartless" instead of giving rational evidence/thoughts to debunk your stance. People that are easily offended or use that word a lot. People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad". People that drown on & on about "morals" or being a "morally good person". Overly judgy people. The type of people that say "I would never do something like that". Hypocrites.


    11. What is the truth?

    Sound logic backed up by facts found through research, probing & tough questions, & not clouded by personal feelings.

    13. How do you know your perceptions are real?

    When it's backed up by logic that makes sense & can be explained. Helps if you can easily site statistics & such to back up your conclusions.
    You don't struggle at all to answer those questions clearly and concisely.


    19. Is there a reason to life?

    Something I've pondered, but I still come up dry. Add advancement to the world?
    ^^This just ain't an F answer to that question lol. And seems low Ni.


    31. What defines you?

    This question seems tough. I would say the things I achieve in life defines me. My thoughts definitely define me, too.
    Of course they do, you have introverted logic, your thoughts essentially are you.(Not entirely though of course.) But definetely got T in the ego.
    __________________________________________________ ___________










    Here you sound like you admire Ni as a suggestive function and being impulsive and having low Ni seems to be a theme in your life that you actually want to improve.


    18) Organized or messy? Plans and blueprints or impulse and surprises? What are you preferences and tendencies?

    I'm organized with my items usually. (Not OCD organized). However, I never use a planner or plan out my days off or anything like that. I don't mind a messy space at all, though.

    I'm impulsive. I want to get better at future planning though. I admire it greatly in others. I would actually like to maintain a balance of both.


    5-what do you like/dislike most about yourself?

    I like a lot about myself. I think I'm smart & know about a lot of different topics, I think I'm funny, I'm ambitious, I'm good with people when I want to be, I'm good at teaching people different things, & I catch on to things easily.

    I dislike how I overthink things so much. I can analyze any & everything to death. I dislike how impulsive & reactive I can be at times. I dislike my anger at times.

    5)What are the traits in others that you admire but you cannot emulate yourself? Elaborate.

    I admire people that are better at time management and following through with things than me. I have a ton of interesting ideas that never seem to go anywhere. I also seem to overestimate what I can get done in a specific amount of time.

    7) What are some of the themes that have played a prominent role in your life (ie. A struggle you’ve been unable to conquer, ect)?

    Not being so reactionary without thinking of consequences. I don't easily learn from past situations.
    Here is part of the SLE Ni description.


    SLEs are active, impulsive individuals who often suffer from a lack of restraint or moderation. They are typically inclined to perceive most situations through the guise of their instincts and in some situations may act without thinking twice; in so doing, they may bite off more than they can chew.



    Here you sound like you get small bursts of Ni.

    c) Fear

    I try not to fear. I don't easily think of ways things could go wrong. Maybe once or twice a year, I get a bad vision of the future & catastrophize how the rest of my life will be.
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    This to me just sounds Se valuing in general. And dynamic > static.

    9-what makes you feel secure?

    I don't want to feel secure. I want to keep pushing past my comfort zones & expand myself. I guess I'd say making & saving money.


    16) What do you hope to avoid being? If it helps, describe a person who embodies what you avoid/you as a villain, ect.

    A disappointment to myself. A failure. Unhappy. Static & constantly in the same place.

    Sounds P.

    2. What are your most important values?

    Freedom, not just for myself but others too. I don't think people should be controlled. Besides that the only thing I can think of is that I try not to ever be unnecessarily rude to anybody. As the saying goes, you catch more bees with honey!
    Se > Si

    15) Oh dear, you’ve been cursed by a witch! It’s ok though, you get a choice on which curse you will receive. Will you choose….
    a) To never be able to experience the sensation of taste
    b) To be immortal
    c) To lose your memories
    d) To be poor for the rest of your life
    e) Or to never experience passion
    Elaborate on why!

    If I was cursed by a witch I would like to lose my memories. I find that dwelling on past events holds people back from the present/future a lot.
    P > J

    13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

    Being better at time management. I never write anything down like making a to do list, I'm terrible at being like I'm going to do this at this time, & I can't for the life of me stick to a routine. I want someone to basically be like ok every day at 10:00 we're hitting the gym together. I feel like I need someone else to keep me accountable on things.

    Se > Si

    6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

    Yes. I like talking about working out & fitness. I'll talk to people about different diets & get their opinions on them like pescatarian, vegetarian, vegan, Mediterranean, paleo, keto.. When it comes to medicine, I've told people the bad side effects Ive gotten from medicine & why I refuse now to take anything. I'll tell people the less crap you put in your body the better.

    I'm not often focused on pain or anything like that though. If something hurts I'll just take like 2 or 3 advil & put it out of my mind & keep on with my day.
    ^^ You can't value Si and even say those words lol.


    These are common SLE fears and sound P > J.

    Evaluation & Behaviour
    11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

    I can make friends problems my problems sometimes. I don't like to see other people upset, & I like to try to fix their issues for them. My anger can be a weakness sometimes. I used to be too generous to people that don't deserve it, but I don't do that anymore so I've overcome that one.

    I try not to dislike myself or things about me. I like to just hopefully improve. I dislike that I can be impulsive & don't think things through. I dislike that I can fear commitment, being trapped, & not stick with things because of it.

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    Here's some other misc. stuff.

    3) Of the seven deadly sins, which one(s) do you relate to the most and the least and why?

    Greed is the 7 deadly sin I relate to the most, I would say. I like expensive food, clothes, cars, etc. and dream about working my way up a company and/or being a successful entrepreneur. I'm a workaholic. I rarely take time off of work, and will happily work 60 hours a week if it means making and saving more money for myself.
    12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

    A lot! I'm a people person & usually good with people, I can come up with better/easier ways to do things, I have a good sense of humor, I catch onto things fast, I'm helpful & never mind questions from people, & I'm ambitious & persistent but also kind & laid back with others.

    4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

    People are greedy & crave power, control, & resources so unfortunately war & militaries are inevitable. I wouldn't think anyone would prefer war but it happens, so we might as well make sure we make our military strong. I believe more in using military for self defense than just deploying troops in any country people feel the need to get involved in when they don't need to.

    Power is having a leadership role over someone else. I wouldn't say power is a bad thing. Companies have managers who technically have power over their associates. Just because they're technically in charge of the people under them doesn't mean that they're mean to those people. Different people just use power in different ways. I would personally love to be a manager at a big company, so in a way I crave power/being in charge sometimes. My favorite thing to tell others though is that being a boss doesn't mean you're bossy.


    Take from SLE Se description

    SLEs are willful, independently-minded individuals who are able to recognise levels of willpower and motivation in others. They are adept at organising others effectively towards any given objective, and have no problem "getting the job done". They have no reservations about taking the initiative when they perceive that others cannot or will not do so. SLEs will often act without all the information they need to go about doing something, but can be successful nonetheless. They are very active people who think on the move, and who generally steer away from a contemplative lifestyle.


    SLEs easily spot power dynamics within any given structure, hierarchy or relationship, and strive for a position where they are less subordinate to others. At the same time, SLEs are comfortable with hierarchies, and recognise that they are a part of everyday life. Their main objective lies in occupying a predominant place in any hierarchy, and because of their energetic and ambitious nature, SLEs can often seem intolerant towards and disrespectful of those of a lower social status. They will often see these people as weak or inferior in some way. Likewise, they see dependence as weakness, and so strive to minimise their dependence on others.

    SLEs can be natural leaders. They are often quick to assume this role,...





    d) Love/passion

    Never been in love. I have love for people I know & for humanity as a whole.
    22. What is true love?

    Something that doesn't exist, & that I'm not looking for.
    From description

    SLEs are often under the impression that while they might gain respect or admiration from others, they can never be truly loved by anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    @thegreenfaerie my family basically runs away at any mention of personality theory stuff now because I've mentioned mbti so much to them. Lol But I agree that people in real life would be better judgers.
    Lol I hear you. I can tell some people I talk to about this stuff are thinking, "Oh boy, here we go again."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    @thegreenfaerie also my results on the similar mind cognitive functions test were:

    Te 55%
    Ti 85%
    Ne 90%
    Ni 60%
    Se 100%
    Si 20%
    Fe 80%
    Fi 35%

    Se > Ne > Ti > Fe > Ni > Te > Fi > Si

    & my results on the sakinorva cognitive functions test were:

    Ne (extraverted intuition) 38
    Ni (introverted intuition) 24.1
    Se (extraverted sensing) 36
    Si (introverted sensing) 8.5
    Te (extraverted thinking) 29
    Ti (introverted thinking) 23
    Fe (extraverted feeling) 32
    Fi (introverted feeling) 14

    Ne > Se > Fe > Te > Ni > Ti > Fi > Si
    I'm not sure if it's good to use those as the IE's/Functions are kind of different between the systems. It definitely seems like you have a healthy dose of Se, so I can see where the SLE typings are coming from, but I don't know enough to really ascertain what your type is tbh. Extroverted lead definitely seems right, Fe valuing... where Se comes into play, I'm not sure I guess I'd really consider if you think you value it over Si. Have you read about the demonstrative function/what that entails?

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    "TIM Fe Se"

    among what you like the most on 1st place was a food you even identified yourself with a food in initial nickname
    food is sensual pleasure - Si value

    as Fe is before, so you are more assured in it than in Se. Fe matches with Si, not with Se

    offer tests to your pals. identify their types to understand your own by IR effects
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    *walks on stage in front of all 7 billion people in the world, takes microphone & sets it on full volume* "I'm an extrovert!!!!"

    Yeah, I'm in no way introverted. Not in the slightest.
    Imma eat your children

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Will have to be my future children, because I don't have any yet.

    Why did my mind go to the conspiracy theory of Hollywood elites eating babies/kids? I research some weird shit sometimes..
    I'll swallow, mommy

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    I honestly don't know if I'd say it would benefit me. I do like being able to understand other people better through typology things I pick up about them. Mostly, it's just an area of interest & research of mine. I liking being able to understand people's minds more, why people do the things they do, & how they work (including myself). I suppose it could lead me to see what I could work to improve in myself. I actively do try to get better at using more functions. For example, I would find it useful to greatly improve my Te.

    Yes, I definitely notice loopholes. Since I'm writing this early in the morning half asleep, I'm struggling to think of a tangible real life example. 2 scenes from a show that come to mind that I think are along how I think with that are there was this sign by a pool that says "adults only no kids allowed" & one of the characters go you guys are just reading it wrong "Adults only? Noooo.. kids allowed!" Another is that you can't sell things on this property that the characters are staying on so this girl ties her ice cone stand with rope to be just a little bit off the ground. This guys says "what did I say about selling things on the property?" & she goes "I'm not on the property. I'm above it."

    High key related to their characters with those situations.
    first paragraph jives with Fe purposes ...I relate. that you included yourself but in parentheses is interesting.

    does the idea of perfecting a (workplace, exercise) routine or a recipe to achieve a consistently awesome result appeal at all?
    personally I'd like to improve my Te (for me that's achieving what I already do , but without the overexertion or long-winded route). I find that in practise it's crushing to individual flair, so my efforts don't last ...!

    your nutrition advice-giving based on firsthand experience sounds like a way of improving experience; potentially could count toward (Fe)+ Si creative.
    I notice SLE peeps doing this too, in a style of assertive expertise "been there done that"... an authority on the subject no doubt

    An Si creative strength would be to notice inclinations in their IEE friend, and accordingly suggest experiences to suit.
    Organise a trip to the escape room, for example. Kayaking. or a coffee date with another, more introverted friend.

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    I think you're clearly Fe/Ti valuing, and you seem to have strong Fe and Se. I'd say either ESE or SLE- you can settle that difference by determining how good you are with Ti matters. However, SLEs have Te as their demonstrative function, which is their strongest function along with Se. Some things that you've said, like how you're looking to improve your Te, or that you admire people with stronger Te, suggest weaker Te. It fits with Te as a role function.
    Also, typically logical types aren't as good at forming relationships or creating a positive mood with others. SLEs in particular like a positive emotional atmosphere but aren't able to create one themselves.
    However, you seem very good at making good impressions and creating positive moods. You also talked about enjoying intellectual conversations and relaxing with your friends, which sounds more alpha quadra than beta.
    I think you could read descriptions about Ti on wikisocion to determine for sure what your type is. A lot of type descriptions include superficial traits, but the key determinants of your personality are how you relate to each information element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pississippi View Post
    I think you're clearly Fe/Ti valuing, and you seem to have strong Fe and Se. I'd say either ESE or SLE- you can settle that difference by determining how good you are with Ti matters. However, SLEs have Te as their demonstrative function, which is their strongest function along with Se. Some things that you've said, like how you're looking to improve your Te, or that you admire people with stronger Te, suggest weaker Te. It fits with Te as a role function.
    Also, typically logical types aren't as good at forming relationships or creating a positive mood with others. SLEs in particular like a positive emotional atmosphere but aren't able to create one themselves.
    However, you seem very good at making good impressions and creating positive moods. You also talked about enjoying intellectual conversations and relaxing with your friends, which sounds more alpha quadra than beta.
    I think you could read descriptions about Ti on wikisocion to determine for sure what your type is. A lot of type descriptions include superficial traits, but the key determinants of your personality are how you relate to each information element.
    I agree with this pissern I mean piss person I mean this person

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I agree with this pissern I mean piss person I mean this person
    lol thank u

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    @kingslayer @sbbds y'all got any opinions? Anyone can feel free to comment enneagram suggestions too.
    Yeah I'm gonna give it a more thorough reading tomorrow as it's late now. I gave it a quick look and you seem like an se valuing extrovert for sure. Probably fe valuing as well.

    I see a decent amount of valued se. Certainly too much for alpha and delta quadrant its a question of which functions you're more competent at than se, or if it's your best .

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    I have no idea how to read this questionnaire, so I'm going off of forum posts and behavior. You seem Alpha to me and I think there's good reason why others think you're Alpha as well. In a way, I can see where Sol is going with SEI, though I don't think I can fully agree. Many of your posts are outwardly emotionally charged, though you don't seem to fully value ethics or filter them out in the way that a ethical dominant would. One could argue that your use of Se is ignored which would somewhat make sense (SEI), or even in a "charismatic" role (ESE). But I can't see you being Se hidden agenda or seeking.

    ILE with role Se might make the most sense. You do seem Alpha though with many of your posts regarding relationships, hedonism, and so on. This questionnaire really does remind me of some of Ben Vaserlan's videos and he's LII/Alpha NT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    @thegreenfaerie also my results on the similar mind cognitive functions test were:

    Te 55%
    Ti 85%
    Ne 90%
    Ni 60%
    Se 100%
    Si 20%
    Fe 80%
    Fi 35%

    Se > Ne > Ti > Fe > Ni > Te > Fi > Si

    & my results on the sakinorva cognitive functions test were:

    Ne (extraverted intuition) 38
    Ni (introverted intuition) 24.1
    Se (extraverted sensing) 36
    Si (introverted sensing) 8.5
    Te (extraverted thinking) 29
    Ti (introverted thinking) 23
    Fe (extraverted feeling) 32
    Fi (introverted feeling) 14

    Ne > Se > Fe > Te > Ni > Ti > Fi > Si
    I don't get a Se leading vibe from you AT ALL. I mean, you don't seem to have a Se leading cognition

    You also seem to be a feeler, you focus too much on human relations and emotions, and always trying to be nice. Smiling all the time
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    hi

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    Maybe LMFAO is Se or Ne leading in MBTI like these tests say, but The Sakinorva Cognitive Function Test goes directly off of the original stack of functions that were proposed by Harold Grant back in the 80s. I've no idea if these functions were meant to be used with the MBTI, or if people started conflating the two somehow along the way. But the test and these aren't Socionics functions. Same with similarminds afaik.

    She seems Alpha extrovert to me overall.
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    Alpha, most possibly ESE (and no, I'm not going to give you a lengthy Ti explanation so you could understand tho it's kinda obvious you want to - Ti-suggestive)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Reasons why I don't see ESE for myself

    • I like to swear a lot.
    • I'll make offensive jokes & not care.
    • I'm confrontational & don't like passive aggressiveness. If I have a problem with someone I'll directly talk to them about it.
    • I hate gossip. Even some of my guy friends gossip more than I do. My convos are usually non people related (Even if that's hard to believe for you guys since I'll post about my family here as a way to get some things off my chest. I actually try not to talk about my family to most people irl unless they know me pretty well).
    • I'd wear random shit in public just to see funny reactions that I don't imagine ESEs would do (for example walking through the mall with a unicorn costume on).
    • I don't see myself as being a typical girl. I usually relate more to guys personalities & get along better with them. I usually think ESEs are the epitome of "typical girl". Am I wrong?
    • People often read me wrong from how I look. I have a running joke that my looks don't match my personality. I'm definitely not some innocent little girl. Lol It pisses me off when people think they can treat me some type of way based off how they've perceived me based on my looks.

    idk am I just stereotyping too much? Although there has to be some validity to stereotypes, right?
    ESEs aren't necessarily girly but they usually focus on adapting to the group culture rather than sticking out too much. My ESE dad is rather dominant and confrontational unless it's tied to a delicate social situation.

    In close company, 4D Fe can be quite vulgar and raunchy. They just pay attention to the audience before letting loose.

    Saying all that, I don't see why SLE can't be your type? Betas aren't all brute force power hungry spartan types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    Alpha, most possibly ESE (and no, I'm not going to give you a lengthy Ti explanation so you could understand tho it's kinda obvious you want to - Ti-suggestive)
    Yes, I agree but I'd have to type up a post and I don't feel like doing that as of now. Seems Ni polr, Ne mobilizing, Ti seeking, so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    @Uncle Ave would you be interested in offering an opinion for my type as well? (I can't remember if you've suggested anything for me ever or not, so my bad if you already had)
    No, I don't think I ever have.

    For sure, I'll check it out. Just gimme a little time cuz there is alot haha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    Ok thanks. I know. I wrote basically an entire book. Lol At least it's a lot of info to go on. I appreciate it.
    Well, I read it haha.

    I can honestly see ILE for you. Fe-Ti values are all over the place in your answers, and Fi seems like your polr because you don't seem to care for "deep feelings" and that sort of thing, you also express confusion at people distancing themselves from you because they take offense at something, which is what Fi blocked with Se does. You seem confused as to why anyone would take offense at things, which to me also hints of Fi polr. Also, don't take this criticism, but...you seem maybe a bit naive as to how the world of feelings work? Like, you don't really get why people would interpet anything you do as malevelont because in your case it isn't, the answer is that alot of times people are malevolent, and may do the same things you do, just not with the same intent. I say this because I have an ILE IRL friend who thinks very much the same way haha.

    I also don't detect Ni or Se "world rejecting" values from your answers, you seem content being kinda chill and letting life come to you, without making big changes.

    I don't really get where ESE is coming from, ESEs usually try to appear like serious people who live for others, you have no problem admitting you mostly live for yourself. I noticed at one point you said you "guessed it wouldn't be nice not to say you cared about your family", which seems like maybe you felt self-conscious about appearing selfish, but deep down didn't truly understand why you had to say this, which to me again indicates vulnerable Fi rather than ESE.

    I realize alot of what I say might sound negative or a bit critical, it's not meant to be at all.

    So yeah I personally see ILE, which was the general impression I had before reading your questionnaire (but I didn't put much weight into it, since I had never interacted with you or read your answers, just read some of your posts here and there).

    Your Ti-Fe seems emphasized too, I'd guess a Ti subtype.

    Hope that helps


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    I am back to thinking SLE for you again @LMFAO .

    Either that or ILE. Agree with what @Uncle Ave and others are saying.

    edit: Actually ILE might make better sense for you as I feel similar to you but not quite identical. Look-a-likes could make sense for us I feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    What changed your mind?
    Something about your appearance and tastes and the way you communicate makes me feel like you’re similar to me. Then what others are saying about Fi polr makes sense. Also, when comparing you to IRL ILEs I know you could easily fit in with the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    I could see that. I also seem to trigger Fi doms who don't know me super well. Everyone else in the room could be like Kelly's so funny, interesting, & awesome asf & the Fi dom person just looking like I don't like her she's insensitive & annoying & I don't get her "jokes". They seem to be the most likely to misread me.
    They are most of all misreading themselves being jealous of you IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMFAO View Post
    I'd be super interested to know why you think SEI is possible? Or where or why you see high Si? I've never considered Si dom for myself.
    I don't think you're SEI, I was simply saying I could understand why others (namely Sol) think SEI is possible.
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    Imo I think you shouldn't consider ANY Fi type at this point lol. On first glance you could be anything from SEE, ESE, SLE and ILE, but as I read on it's definitely obvious you don't just devalue Fi but it's very low in your stack as well.

    I thought ESE at first because of your general fun loving atittude. However, you seem to have a limited perception as to what emotional expression can be, or at least focus a disproportionate amount on expressing positive and "appropriate" emotions for the situation, which to me reads Normative 2D Fe. The way you talk about Fi people (basically) is also indicative of low F in general - my experience with Fe base is that they will tolerate Fi as long as they don't directly infringe them, which doesn't include merely having or expressing personal opinions or moral judgments - whereas this seems to irk you or at least confuse you. I agree completely with Lord Pixel's assessment as to your polr Fi in this case.

    Considering your ego block. It's pretty obvious that your base is an extroverted perceiving function coupled with Ti, because a lot of what you wrote is focused on observation of the world and then categorisation of that information based on objective measurable standards such as its worth, or where it might fit in the social sphere (in a way that is very rigid and hierarchical, and not emotional), but this might be due to social instinct as well. I can't explain it well since I'm Ti polr and I don't have a clear grasp of what this function really is anyway, but I'd say Ti>Te valued for sure.

    As for S vs N: a lot of the things you say could be read as S, especially Se, such as your focus on physical activity and wanting to expand your horizons and get out of your comfort zone, as well as not being afraid to talk back in arguments. You also seem to have either trouble or an unwillingness to use Ni in your day to day, as evidenced by your mentions of impulsive behavior and not thinking things through. Still, for some reason I don't see you as a Se base. The way you talk and your general attitude seems more in line with the ILEs I know than the SLEs. You don't seem to put a lot of force behind your words like I get the impression with SLEs. And a point in favor of low valued Si is that you seem to enjoy comfort a lot but, just like with Fe, seem to limit it to what you've experienced as comfort in the past, or got the impression was "comfort" from other people.

    Sorry I can't be more conclusive here instead of "just vibes dude", but imo ILE>SLE based on... Well. Vibes.

    In the end you should make an informed decision based on your experiences and also IR. I hope this was at least somewhat helpful, if I can say anything with certainty is that you're not any F type. Good luck!

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    You really remind me of one of my best childhood friends. She's SEE and you VI like her a bit too.
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