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    Hello there, I realized that I have a hard time recognizing IEI-Fe types. I think maybe it's because they blend in a lot due to creative Fe, and I can't really seem to recognize them on sight. I don't think I can distinguish them from IEEs, SEIs, or maybe ILEs if they happen to be male. I literally type anyone I don't know as IEI-Fe, and this is becoming a problem.

    Based on my present knowledge, I see them as bring very soft, friendly, and maybe a bit mischievous due to underdeveloped Se. They can be a bit dramatic sometimes, but they look very cute lmao.

    Also, does anyone else get this strange feeling whenever they see some IEIs (more common among Ni subtypes)? I feel like they kind of see through me, and are plotting to ruin my life, or overpower me, or something, all while pretending everything's perfectly fine. I don't feel that way towards all IEIs but that is also one of the indicators I look for.

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    Really interesting what you said about Fe subtype's contour being blurred into IEE, SEI and ILE; those are all types that I and others have considered for myself in the past, especially IEE)

    Someone who knows me very well on a personal level, @Uncle Ave, might be able to help by expanding on the subtle differences between the types.
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    it's because it needs skills which develop by typing and watching, communicating with people of those types
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    What is your own type? My theory is that any particular type have the biggest problem identifying their own dual, even their incidentals. I highly doubt that you are going to learn how to identify IEIs from what we have to say about it. Just keep reading and practice, practice and practice. It only takes about ten years to become an accomplished typer, so stamina is the key word here.
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    Well, I am friends with @Baboooshka, yes, and I'm willing to help; not sure how well I know the others though especially SEI.

    The difference with IEE is that I feel they look down on me in a way, though some are always telling me how much they value me, I often feel like they try to turn me into someone I am not. I don't get that with IEIs like Bab, more like they are the ones looking up to me in a way. But that's ITR so I guess it doesn't really help...I guess IEEs are alot touchier, much more punctilious, regardless of their social background. IEI is quite difficult to offend with "incorrrect" behavior.

    I have experience with an ILE, too. I guess in comparison to Bab she is much more "down to earth", doesn't try to present herself in a fancy, kate bush-like manner. Also has trouble showing vulernability. But the latter might be enneagram type related (she's a 7w8). She also has a complete disregard for how others see her, and doesn't seem to care of she hurts others feelings (or is not aware of it, which is another distinguishing factor)

    SEI...what can I say? I have an SEI-Si aunt and one SEI-Fe friend. I guess SEI is much more into real life things than IEI. IEI is like this poet that lives in a lofty dream castle looking over the sea. Like IEIs, they can be elegeant but are into real life things. They also care alot what people think of them, it seems they feel bad if others react badly to them (at least true of the ones I have known).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Also, does anyone else get this strange feeling whenever they see some IEIs (more common among Ni subtypes)? I feel like they kind of see through me, and are plotting to ruin my life, or overpower me, or something, all while pretending everything's perfectly fine. I don't feel that way towards all IEIs but that is also one of the indicators I look for.
    Yes lmao

    Some signs:
    - Less engaged in stereotypically masculine activities if male (although not unusual for females to be tomboyish)
    - More verbal and poetic and less physical than other people in general
    - Complains a lot about social systemic type things, bureaucracy; complaints can actually succeed in changing some things around them
    - “Stupid” shit eating sense of humor. SEI, IEE and ILE all have a more intellectual and less base sense of humor IMO, as only IEI are Se-valuing/seeking out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Hello there, I realized that I have a hard time recognizing IEI-Fe types. I think maybe it's because they blend in a lot due to creative Fe, and I can't really seem to recognize them on sight. I don't think I can distinguish them from IEEs, SEIs, or maybe ILEs if they happen to be male. I literally type anyone I don't know as IEI-Fe, and this is becoming a problem.

    Based on my present knowledge, I see them as bring very soft, friendly, and maybe a bit mischievous due to underdeveloped Se. They can be a bit dramatic sometimes, but they look very cute lmao.

    Also, does anyone else get this strange feeling whenever they see some IEIs (more common among Ni subtypes)? I feel like they kind of see through me, and are plotting to ruin my life, or overpower me, or something, all while pretending everything's perfectly fine. I don't feel that way towards all IEIs but that is also one of the indicators I look for.
    Well, to identify the Fe creative component, at least (so, differentiating from IEEs and ILEs for example),
    When you talk to the person are they very subtly reactive to how you are saying things (the emotional atmosphere between you two). do they always seem to be slightly re-adjusting, fine-tuning, and adapting themselves to you? basically, how sensitive are they to you and your emotional expressions (versus what you're actually saying)

    whenever i meet another Fe creative I initially feel slightly unnerved because I'm usually the one doing that for others, and it feels weird to be on the receiving end of it (read: too much Fe for me!)

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    Really we’re just talking about an IEI that is more extroverted in the common sense of the word. So somebody that is just as moody but who is more expressive about it (wether consciously or not). Somebody who is more inclined to initiate things even though rarely in a forceful manner. Maybe also someone more talkative?
    Basically someone who resembles an EIE but that will run out of energy super quickly and leave you confused because you won’t know why they suddenly just turned quiet and avoidant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Hello there, I realized that I have a hard time recognizing IEI-Fe types. I think maybe it's because they blend in a lot due to creative Fe, and I can't really seem to recognize them on sight. I don't think I can distinguish them from IEEs, SEIs, or maybe ILEs if they happen to be male. I literally type anyone I don't know as IEI-Fe, and this is becoming a problem.
    Well have you seen videos of IEI-Fes? I know this is kind of a Se solution which isn't for everyone, but once you see the dynamics of a given type, the microexpressions, the body language, then it gets a lot easier to recognize a person of that type - at least from my Fe pov.

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    I don't think I've seen a lot. Do you have any examples?

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    A few examples, anything look similar?


    Vera Farmiga - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHpZSVIu61M

    Sarah Slean - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqy0ZPi9AtA

    Anna Karina - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z7_AkJ7R6w

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Something in their microexpressions and mannerisms makes me smile. There's definitely overlap with SEI but more zany, dreamy and dramatic.

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    It's hard to spot a chameleon; IEIs have the gift of being able to adopt a persona so as to blend into the crowd.

    a.k.a. I/O

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    There was some other thread here where someone linked a video of Dita Von Teese as an example of IEI-Ni - she was being interviewed by Michelle Phan, and without knowing anything else about her, Michelle immediately stood out to me as a Fe subtype. Maybe watching them together might help give you a better feel for recognizing the IEI-Fe type in general.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Would you mind linking some examples of IEI-Ni's as well? Or else, do you know a good page that has a compilation of videos of different types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatte View Post
    Would you mind linking some examples of IEI-Ni's as well? Or else, do you know a good page that has a compilation of videos of different types?
    These are introverted subtypes:

    Emmanuelle Seigner IEI harmonizing
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    Rational subtypes are easier to fool (as they lack doubt) and less complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COVID 007 View Post
    Rational subtypes are easier to fool (as they lack doubt) and less complicated.
    Elaborate please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatte View Post
    Would you mind linking some examples of IEI-Ni's as well? Or else, do you know a good page that has a compilation of videos of different types?
    Sure, I don't mind linking some vids.

    You can view them on this page: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...es-with-Videos


     


    Vera Farmiga (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHpZSVIu61M
    Evangeline Lilly (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJLRQTAC_U
    Sarah Slean (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqy0ZPi9AtA
    meekakitty (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhWsVC3VNVE
    Emilia Clarke (Fe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2k6t6rjBY
    Krista Allen (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SpyP6HyWxo
    Claire Forlani (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHeW6Es9y0
    Jenny Agutter (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gYDWza8N4
    Svetlana Folomeshkina (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naCUTdnk6ao
    Anna Karina (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z7_AkJ7R6w
    Kristina Asmus (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwM-2orS_zQ
    Tori Amos (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-Xf-uTulg
    Fiona Apple (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI
    BBelowtheRadar-AbovetheSystem (Ni) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LQmwsBUD7Q
    Jesse Jo Stark (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyKFrYlXGzc
    Yalda Hakim (Ni) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xFbc2hyPOM
    Dita Von Teese (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKXjcLGc9vc
    Janelle Monae (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkiLS0TtloU
    Karrine Steffans (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09tAtjF-M7s
    Zoe Saldana (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIsQlZISDM

    Joel Plaskett (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNbxPkoxVI
    Zachary Condon (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvotAVMFKEY
    Kurt Cobain (Fe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe7q8yDPJFo
    Sergei Bezrukov (Fe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ndVI_om38
    Matthew Tye (Fe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN93Jz7N4Xw
    Nicepetertoo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0OfP34QRzw
    Tupac Shakur (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHOrL-qcwRU
    Martin Luther King (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMwz447wKe4
    Nikolai Bukharin (Fe) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Bukharin
    Abhishek Bachchan (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaha8yhGRE
    David Lynch (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UHLMVr4vg
    Boris Johnson (Fe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEDFMKjhLRw
    Mahatma Gandhi (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMcNubXqc4
    Søren Kierkegaard (Fe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQlhRaXO110
    Ben Whishaw (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3pXZhxpyW0
    Cillian Murphy (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoabEkzrejI
    Thom Yorke (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtIkX0Y7vFU
    Hermann Hesse (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUB6uaXLnHQ
    Julian Assange (Ni) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTV_Vz-Ur2M
    Sergei N. Lazarev (Ni) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu6ywPGwCvU
    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (Ni) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r005Alz-GJA
    Jean-Michel Jarre (Ni) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOKbBiFrFgw
    Jiddu Krishnamurti (Ni) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIqVJaF4Gig

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatte View Post
    Elaborate please?
    Eh, they are prone to confirmation bias...
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    @ninaus Interesting, I can definitely see the differences between EJ and IP influences in temperament. Lucky you managed to find a video like this.

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    @chocolatte

    That IEI-Ni at the beginning is the cutest IEI ever. He also appeared at the end, so watch the entire video.

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