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Ghislaine Maxwell always seemed LSI to me.
There's something about him that infuriates me. Not his crimes, those are appalling, I mean the way he looks and carries himself. He has this smugness about him.
Apparently, he liked to surround himself with people that kissed up to him and liked to think he was the smartest person in the room.
I think ILE. I don't see an LIE to be that obsessed with massages.
I think intuitive because a sensor would probably be more upfront about what they wanted. Or go about it in a more straightforward way.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
LSI or SLI
Ghishelle seems ESE
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
No way did this guy value Si in any capacity. He was a business oriented and somewhat antisocial/socially awkward person but also highly aggressive and ambitious. I think LIE or SLE would fit the best.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I have no idea what his type was, but I do know he sure as hell didn't kill himself .
I don't understand why being business orientated and socially awkward would be a reason why they wouldn't value Si.
He was aggressive that's true and coercive, which could be Se valuing.
If you watch the difference in body language between these two you can see Trump constantly moving in on him, talking over him, moving around the room. Epstein is just standing with arms folded not even looking directly at Trump even when he's talking right into his ear. I think this shows at least a low level of sensing as well as some social awkwardness. I don't think SLE is a very believable option.
The reason I said this was if you compare Trump's alleged crimes to Epstein's they seem very different. Epstein took advantage of underage girls often coming from poor families. He used his wealth to play on peoples need for money. So LIE could be possible.I think intuitive because a sensor would probably be more upfront about what they wanted. Or go about it in a more straightforward way.
It took weeks to lead up to the eventual assault and he was very passive in the situation. Also, nipple play seems very Si.
According to these women Trump takes no time at all and just outright assaults them.
I think LIE could be possible I still think a very narcissistic ILE.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Trump should be common. Being a man he likes women and may try to establish romance relations with them. Without forcing or insulting them in borders of existing western culture. I doubt he did more.
From what I've heard about idiotic laws in USA as "assaults" they may name alike showing a sympathy, doing a care, making a polite offer etc. nothing objectively harmful, and most of what normal woman should not dislike significantly today.
Also people may lie, mb partly. Especially when may get money (or be not striked) for attacking someone who is an opponent of other people with big money and power. As politicians and businessmen can be.
The last significantly falsificated voting in USA shows that lie is common for Trump's opponents. Besides it should be common practice in capitalistic society which is based on hating people, lie, terror/violence and the harm against the majority. Medias, education and propaganda are full of this. Especially such methods more met in regions where higher competing happens as in politics and money related.
An an example of public lie common for USA, is that Epstein discussed here, who is falsly blamed in medias in sexual relations with a child. While the age of known women was beyond and those were biologically adult (as able to born children).
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Yes? That's why I suggested a 4D Te type.
That sentence was a summary of my impression of him, not about Si only.
Based on a few seconds of video? Not a strong argument tbh, but I do favor LIE.
If you watch the difference in body language between these two you can see Trump constantly moving in on him, talking over him, moving around the room. Epstein is just standing with arms folded not even looking directly at Trump even when he's talking right into his ear. I think this shows at least a low level of sensing as well as some social awkwardness. I don't think SLE is a very believable option.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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I'm not a firm believer of temperaments but I think Epstein's behaviour in the video is a textbook example of balanced-stable IJ temperament. Donald trump, being a clear extravert, is bouncing all over the place. An LIE with EJ temperament would stereotypically display far more sharp and agile body movements. However, he could just be nervous so temperaments are not everything. Also, weak sensing correlates more with clumsy behaviour rather than the firm, self constrained movements Epstein is showing.
I do agree that he VI like some LIEs I know in that video specifically, but in almost all other cases Epstein doesn't look LIE at all.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Jeffrey Epstein is the same type as Trump. Ghislaine may be SLI.
LSI