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    Is it just me, or are both perceiving types and subtypes on average heavier/ bulkier than rational types and subtypes? It's not a perfect correlation but this definitely seems to be the case.

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    Rational types are more inclined towards anal retentiveness, which is an attitude that burns a lot of calories. So yes, on average your observations are correct.
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    I'd say this is the case for irrationals that Pi-Ips and Pe-Eps will have a proclivity to be heavy-set and fluctuating weights. I've seen quite a few IEE-Nes prone to putting on some pounds and then struggling to make themselves exercise on a consistent basis to lose that weight. Similarly SEI-Sis and ILE-Nes tend to have bulkier figures than their rational counterparts SEI-Fe and ILE-Ti, but this is on the average and there have always been exceptions.

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    S / N may correlate with weight. S types pay more attention on physical needs and pleasures
    so sum weight of people with S type is higher more cases of redundant weight among S types. underweight is more met among N types

    other traits are doubtful to correlate significantly

    / there are no subtypes in Socionics
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I have noticed more than a few obese LSEs in middle management (excuse the pun). A large portion of the US population seems overweight, j-types included. I think that poor eating habits stem from cultural influences, not type.

    a.k.a. I/O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    I have noticed more than a few obese LSEs in middle management (excuse the pun). A large portion of the US population seems overweight, j-types included. I think that poor eating habits stem from cultural influences, not type.

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    Maybe there's some correlation, however I think your genetics overshadow the effect personality may have on your physiology.
    I'm IEI-Ni and a BMI calculator would say I'm underweight, but if you just look at me, I'm clearly not, I just have the tiniest frame. I gain muscle mass very easily (genetics), the uncommon times I decide to be more active. When I'm in sedentary mode, I retain a lot of muscle tone. So in this case genetics are overshadowing personality factors..

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    My weight fluctuates a lot. I've never allowed myself to get truly big though, I've only been slightly overweight before BMI wise, like 26 to 27 percent once right after a massive loss, meds, etc. I lost about 30 pounds fast by quitting sugar, switching medication at that time and lessening or quitting drinking, cant remember. I've been fluctuating between 21 and 25 BMI for years. Right now I'm at 23. I'm in between ectomorph and mesomorph I think. I have limb and bone structure kind of like an ecto, but my metabolism is not as good as one's (only when I was young, before mid 20's) and I guess maybe parts of my figure are more meso. I find it's easy for me to both gain and lose very much based on diet especially. Even a little bit of activity can really help me though too. I'm very lazy though unless it's something I enjoy like biking, hiking, swimming, dancing.

    So I guess, whatever my type is (delta NF), I am disciplined enough to take action when my weight is creeping up, though probably not in the healthiest way... but I am also lazy about pushing myself to do a lot of physical activity.

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    An addition. Besides a pleasure factor, higher weight in normal borders may also mean more muscles due to higher physical load and a training. Though, in today "civilized" conditions fat gains easier.
    So higher weight of S types may also relate to more care about better look and sometimes healthier metabolism (when you feel better), on what S types pay more of the attention.

    An example, when a woman's look is improved after +10 kg. She had thin sporty runner-body before. Higher weight also could improve her hormones to arise the fertility. From mens view - she started to look as more feminine and more attractive.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    I have noticed more than a few obese LSEs in middle management (excuse the pun). A large portion of the US population seems overweight, j-types included. I think that poor eating habits stem from cultural influences, not type.

    a.k.a. I/O
    The overweight LSEs are more likely to be the fix-your-backyard Mr. do-it-all sort, and they are generally more sensory oriented. The overly rigid Te-fixated walking-encyclopedia sort is generally skinner.

    The weird thing is not that perceiving types and subtypes are fatter, their frame looks rounder and softer even when they are skinny.

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    @consentingadult Are u saying that anal retentiveness should be taught as a weight loss tactic? That sounded way easier then hitting the gym lmao, you should give it try.

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    No, that would be reversing cause and effect, it doesn't work the other way around. Either you are are anal retentive or you are not. You cannot 'do' anal retentiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    S / N may correlate with weight. S types pay more attention on physical needs and pleasures
    so sum weight of people with S type is higher more cases of redundant weight among S types. underweight is more met among N types
    I think by this logic, N types would be more prone to being overweight since they're less good at taking care of their bodies, exercising, eating regularly, etc. If someone doesn't eat regularly, and don't pay much attention to their bodies, etc. that doesn't mean they're gonna be thin. I'm fat myself, and I only eat maybe two meals a day. I tend to live in my head, and am not good at taking care of my body or the practical needs of life.
    The common advice for people who want to lose weight is to eat regularly, small meals. [Not eating] is not gonna cause you to lose weight.

    "So higher weight of S types may also relate to more care about better look and sometimes healthier metabolism (when you feel better), on what S types pay more of the attention."

    But being thin is the beauty standard, at least in the dimension where I live. Maybe you live in a different dimension from me. It's possible. But where I'm from, 'higher weight' is not exactly what society encourages.
    So again, if anything, I think this all points to S types being thinner, since they're supposed to be better at taking care of their bodies, eating regularly, exercising, and looking better.

    But it's also genetics of course. My family is fat, so of course I'm gonna be fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreasdevig View Post
    The common advice for people who want to lose weight is to eat regularly, small meals. [Not eating] is not gonna cause you to lose weight.
    Just fuck my Insulin up
    Insulin Resistance and Metabolic Syndrome = Healthy Weight Loss
    Stable Insulin levels and Abstinence/Fasting = Unhealthy, not good for losing weight
    lol

    *I'm not good at abstinence btw, always instinctually consuming food while thinking about other stuff

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