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SEE <== click me
World rejecting. Strong Se. Very active and competitive. Generally seems to have strong sensing.
Has a certain degree of feeler's logic that is not characteristic of a T type.
People person, social.
Everything about the post screams gamma values. Se-Fi.
I wish typing myself was this easy..
Se lead seems like a good fit. The "wondering if we live in a matrix" thing is something that crosses my mind pretty often too, actually.
Some things that might point more towards SeFi than SeTi are smiling a lot, being a people person in general that easily learns to know new people, and this "people acting like I don't know how to do something that I'm good at" kinda reads more like Te mobilizing (and Ti PoLR). For T in ego block, that kind of thing is so obvious that you wouldn't even think about it or criticism/underestimation of abilities wouldn't register at all.
Conversely it seems like you're naturally good with people and probably wouldn't feel like someone could underestimate your abilities of getting along with / learning to know others.
SEE seem have very strong emphasis on freedom in general, even more than SLE.
Keep in mind that this is merely my opinion based on the data at hand.
Feeler related in general:The individual is very adept at perceiving, establishing, and maintaining personal bonds between people. However, these bonds are often perceived as being situational and flexible rather than static. The individual is inclined to focus on establishing personal bonds with other people in the context of realizing or following perceptions from his base function. The person easily creates a sense of closeness and kinship between people by expressing like and acceptance, but these sentiments are situational rather than an expression of permanent feelings. If the person's mood or external situation changes, he or she may "turn off" the feelings instantly, even forgetting whom they had created the feeling of kinship with.
Lots of value judgments and relational stuff, interest in certain magical thinking related subjects.8) When I meet new people I focus on their general attitude & the vibe I get from them.
9) I feel like humanity is more bad/neutral than good. I think selfishness is the biggest problem the human race faces.
10) I have a lot of hobbies. Sports, physical activities, decorating, cooking, baking, reading about a ton of random things- astrology, different religions, psychology stuff, etc. I like politics (I'm a libertarian). I like the arts like going to see plays.
11) What I like to do with friends depends on that friend(s). I'm usually down for any activity/social event, but I'm also cool with ordering a pizza & binge watching shows/movies & just talking one on one with someone or just going for a long walk/drive.
13) I find myself liking music, shows, etc. that people do around me. Also, I'll start picking up people's phrases & the way they talk. (I'm good at reading & picking up nonverbals of people, & people I interact with a lot I can start to sort of "mimick" sometimes).
15) Comfort to me is being able to be completely relaxed with someone. I'm a Taurus, so of course I love my fuzzy slippers, blankets, etc. & Don't forget comfort food, yum!
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?
People's humor, their randomness, their achievements, their ambition/motivation, their kindness, their empathy, & their energy.
I dislike when people are rude, too uptight, unwilling to try other people's ideas, have no sense of humor, get offended easily, are too sensitive or sulk too much, or don't realize their impact on the people around them.
IF you were SLE, it would be Ti creative:
The other Gamma type possible for you LIE does not have your level of Se and it also has very good Te and Ti.The individual easily generates logical systems and formulations to explain a set of phenomena that he has experienced or studied. However, these logical systems or explanations are not viewed as permanent or all-encompassing, but can be improved upon or even discarded as new experience and information is added.
Imo at best you'd have to chose between SEE or SLE. Those as the most likely types. The SLE however has Fi PolR (bad at relational / social stuff) and shit Fe (not very expressive, may appear unfriendly, insensitive, unwelcoming at times). Imagine Donald Trump:
Better yet, make a video.. so we can see if you are merry or serious.SLEs have trouble evaluating the internal emotional state of other people unless it is accompanied by a visible emotional expression. They are typically inept at reading people's inner feelings and often do not expect people to react to them on the basis of sentiments that are not outwardly visible. They do not like it when they are judged morally or when their lack of attention to others' feelings is criticized. SLEs are uncomfortable in overly sentimental occasions, and in situations where they are expected or required to offer emotional support. Many SLEs are highly emotionally guarded, and may become touchy or apprehensive if they expect that others may judge their character harshly.
Being a Se dom is based *thumbsup*
SEE seems good so far
i couldn't imagine you being Ti-PoLR after reading a bit of your thought processes in the BLM thread.
I'd pick SLE > SEE if I had to pick between the two
@Cupcakemonster if you aren't too shy, make a video. I thought I was ILI for example, the video cleared that up asap. You can always just make a dummy youtube account, upload there unlisted, share the link and later delete the vid once typing process is done.
- Not making value judgements about people and their behavior is much more SLE.
- Having hard time telling how much you like someone or how much they like you (unless accompanied by very clear displays) is more like weak Fi as well
- Good at reading people and knowing what would be appropriate (if you wanted to act so) does not exclude SLE. Neither does making jokes and trying to keep a positive atmosphere.
- Making light jokes and people getting all offended about them and then having to explain that it wasn't intended to hurt someone is something I run into constantly. Seems like a strong point for SLE > SEE
Your understanding of Fi doesn't seem wrong to me. I think I understand it intellectually too, but I have to actively think about it instead of it being somehow instinctual.
Also your recent posts in the BLM thread seem very Ti > Fi valuing to me, I relate to your thinking and it seems grounded and logical. Not burdened by a bunch of emotions or trying to seem virtuous.
SLE seems more likely than SEE to me at this point. Maybe you were focusing on talking about people and relationships because that's where you actually have problems and are looking for better understanding. I noticed you improved the structure of your first post and that triggered me to read more (often I'm too impatient to read everything sequentially and just catch glimpses here and there). The mimicking thing you mentioned could be Fe HA, picking up on stuff that seems funny and using it. I've noticed doing this myself too. Fi creatives might be more individualistic about this.
hoping to get a correct type by not enough info from random noobs is not reasonably
I would say it's competent use of Se to quickly notice something being in the way like you described. I notice it quickly too, but more in the opposite sense of something being in my way. Needing to move out of someone's way annoys me and I don't apologize for it.
Your e-type could play a role there, yes. I haven't put much thought in tritypes but some test indicated 835 for me, and So last.
Imo even just seeing yourself answer questions on video helps.
Very cute. I think SEE after the video. Your Fe seems natural and you remind me of SEE I know. Concrete and Te valuing based on your stories about work.
SEE and ESE actually have the same functional strengths. 4D Fe & Se, 3D Si and Fi, 2D Ne and Te, 1D Ti and Ni. The two types differ only in which of those functions they value.
ESE's value Fe, Si, Ne, and Ti. SEE's value Se, Fi, Te, and Ni.
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If not SEE, my 2nd guess was ESE. Just seems like an ethical type with a lot of Se/Fe.
I can see why people would say SEE - they give off more pleasant "people" person vibe.... Think of the dumb blonde sorority girl or the SEE prototype,
SEE also have "the life of the party" vibe and a presence unmatched by any of the 16 types. If you want to be entertained for the night - invite an SEE.
SLEs, on the other hand, give off the vibe of quietly "watching from the sidelines" (like @sbbds) observing, then popping outta the shadows.... But they do this with a purpose, whereas SEE is more YOLO.
And, after thinking about it, I think the SEE bias partly comes from the fact that you are slightly rambling in your answers - partly due to the nature of the questions + you could be slightly nervous that randos from the internet watching and analyzing u....
I'd have to watch u more closely (over a period of time) in your natural habitat to get a better feel for how u operate.
But, based off your answers, I still think you're SLE > SEE:
Se, NiI would say that my purpose in life is to experience as many things as possible and to hopefully make a positive impact on those around me. Also, to keep pushing myself to bigger & better things. I want to keep progressing forward & never stay stagnant.
Pushing yourself + fighting for a purpose > being comfortable minding your own business
SLE > SEE .... SLEs are more conquering with a purpose vs. SEEs are more like in a reality TV-show entertaining the crowdThis applies to me in my personal time. When it comes to work, I like to always be the best at everything or at least try my hardest to be. I'm super competitive (Not in a mean but in a fun way. I actually appreciate when someone can beat me at something), & constantly trying to get the best scan rate.
SLE > SEE. +you seem confident in your views (Ti).... SEE would be more wary with this in generalI like politics (I'm a libertarian)
People irritating me, people being unnecessarily rude or smart to me, jealousy, people taking themselves or comments/jokes too seriously, people acting like I don't know how to do something that I'm good at, & people acting like they're better than anyone else.Ti/Fe > Te/Fi ---> dislike the idea that expressing your thoughts can (unfairly) affect ur relations to peopleI dislike a lot of people's general attitudes. I dislike when people are overly serious & have no sense of humor. I dislike when people can't laugh at themselves. I dislike how quickly people can go from being friendly to being mean/angry/ignore you without explaining why or for the littlest things. I dislike how selfish people can be.
Se > Si ---> dislike when people try to overpower u
I can make friends problems my problems sometimes. I don't like to see other people upset, & I like to try to fix their issues for them. My anger can be a weakness sometimes. I used to be too generous to people that don't deserve it, but I don't do that anymore so I've overcome that oneFi-PoLR / @sbbds destroying-things-to-let-it-go vibes,Besides the money being bad imo, it turns me from being a friendly person to straight up being a cynical, people hating person
TiI think, just like I'd assume most other people, I try to do a little bit of both. I wouldn't want to be "basic" or agree with other people just for the sake of fitting in, but I also don't see a reason to try to stand out just for the sake of being different. I feel like I can fit in with any group of people usually.
Here you demonstrate some nuances in your thinking and how things "should be" depending on the situation.
a guy at work had said "good sneaker game" to me because I wore new Nike's one day & new Puma's the next. I would happily drop $400+ on designer clothes if I felt I had enough money saved up from working hard & budgeting my money, too.Lol. Classic Se gold-digger vibesFor example, if I wear a basic item like Ugg boots they can't be the plain tan ones. They have to be purple or black ones with the bows on the back. idk if that's a good example lol but I'm sure you guys get the point.
Se > SiI don't want to feel secure. I want to keep pushing past my comfort zones & expand myself. I guess I'd say making & saving money
SLE > SEE. SEE don't really sit and analyze/question things to this extent.Analyzing things, things I want to do/try, convos I wish I'd have with people, sarcastic comments, random things like what if we're living in the matrix, analyzing people, & food
Ti - again talking about how people "should be"Freedom, not just for myself but others too. I don't think people should be controlled. Besides that the only thing I can think of is that I try not to ever be unnecessarily rude to anybody. As the saying goes, you catch more bees with honey!
ESE is also a possibility but you say you don't relate to Fi/Si.... People shouldn't underestimate this. You know yourself 100000x better than anyone here
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does she give you JennaMarbles vibes?
btw, Azula (your avatar) is EIE.
Enjoying debates / arguing = Fe- (flexible Fe in EIE, SEE, SEI, ILE and so on..)
Your answer here implies a preference for Se over Si. Combined with strong Fe- and Se+ .. I'd say Gamma SEE is more likely. Si-Ne types like myself, we prefer comfort and convenience to money and prestige. I prefer a fun / comfy / interesting job that may make less money and is less prestigious or to just be self employed and on my own terms. I won't overexert myself :-P, workaholic is out of the question.3) Greed is the 7 deadly sin I relate to the most, I would say. I like expensive food, clothes, cars, etc. and dream about working my way up a company and/or being a successful entrepreneur. I'm a workaholic. I rarely take time off of work, and will happily work 60 hours a week if it means making and saving more money for myself.
Overall I get the impression you'd rather be active and ambitious, than comfortable, so Gamma SEE. See the model G chart: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...9&d=1529810224
Gamma stereotype is ambitious business ppl, Ayn Rand's (LIE) view of the world essentially. Libertarian stuff.
Final answer after I watch the vid today: [insert type here later]
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I’m just mentioning her because she was a well-known member among older members, and was pretty unequivocally typed as beta ST.
I’m probably not the best person to compare yourself to, as I think we have rather hugely different backgrounds and political attitudes.
Lol, I have a premonition you won't get along with Sol either.
Anyway body language is that of an extrovert and you seem like you don't really want to miss out on anything / active (other Se doms here report the same)
Imo too animated and expressive (Fe) to be a Tx type and ESE is possible.. you come across like a people person for sure.
ESE or SEE imo.. but you seem merry and not serious. Which means ESE-Si is more likely. kinda like JennaMarbles, just more energetic and less Si earthiness.
SEEs I have seen are more serious and have this physical dominant presence to them.. a kind of quieter solidity & slowness (Se base and valuing with Fi). (they are serious types, not merry)
As discussed today in the chatbox, Si valuers typically have much less interest in the metaphysical as compared to Ni valuers.
This quote below doesn't sound much like ESE to me, any actual ESE / SEI interested in commenting?
Do you have interest in cosmology, deeper meaning of things, metaphors? Do you think art should convey a meaning and be thought-provoking rather than conveying (mainly pleasant) impressions?I just like learning about different religions & beliefs. I find them more interesting/fascinating than anything else. It's also interesting how lots of religions kind of tie together or how they barrow things from each other. I find buddhism/Hinduism probably the most interesting. I used to look up things about past lives, karma, destiny/fate, soulmates, & twin flames. I don't believe in those things, though.
*tumbleweed rolls by* *the wind blows*This quote below doesn't sound much like ESE to me, any actual ESE / SEI interested in commenting?
Yes. e_e without deeper meaning it would be just boring entertainment and nothing to consider seriously. Deeper meaning to everything is a must.Do you have interest in cosmology, deeper meaning of things, metaphors? Do you think art should convey a meaning and be thought-provoking rather than conveying (mainly pleasant) impressions?
op has that Alpha Quadra goofyness / impish humor.
FWIW I think you are most likely SLE so far. I can relate to being unsure about relationships with people and disliking moralizing, which you mentioned in your questionnaire. (Actually I have learned to sometimes moralize too as it suits me LOL as @shotgunfingers knows.) This points to Fi vulnerable.
Strong, conscious ego valued Se is apparent through talking about how you like prestigious name brand clothes and how you’d blow hundreds of $ at the drop of a hat on nice things. You mention the future a lot as well. Ni-Se valuation is clear.
Se is a lot about aesthetics, but not that much about pleasant and harmonious ones (that is more Si). Se/Ni is more about making an impact and the cool factor. A feeling of awe is important. Edgy contrasts of dark and violent themes, even ugliness as in death, decay and disease contrasted with the epic and sublime. Si/Ne has more grounded/infantile/pleasant and comfortable/cute/inoffensive and "wholesome" themes.