Although it's worth noting that a lot of autistic people are well functioning members of society.
Although it's worth noting that a lot of autistic people are well functioning members of society.
devourer of the sun // consumer of the moon⚹
& you know now,
that anything alone is
& any two things
together is a terror.
Love and Hate are two sides of the same coin.
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.
I almost always use people as a soundboard. That is how I clarify ideas most often, bouncing thoughts off others to see what they think, how they think about it so I can add other perspectives I may fail to think of. The interaction helps me think... hmm. Sounds kinda Ne-ish.
So I asked my brother about why he got pissed one time when we talked about him recruiting some ppl for his business and here is what I got. This is the exact quote from whatsapp. <_< I had some idea, but didn't know I was this BAD. See pics of the convo below need to work on this... guys I SWEAR I was sent to a psychologist be4 and I got tested for autism...I'm neurotypical :/..completely normal. She said I'm smarter than most people and should focus on finding the right kind of ppl for me.. aaand that was it
Pics of the convo:
Maybe I'm socially retarded. My avatar is a visual representation of this e_e... oh man I had no idea.. its half way amusing tho.
:/ looks like I'm Te creative and I strongly relate to vulnerable Fe:now I need to figure out if I'm ILI or SLI.The individual tries hard to never let himself "come apart at the seams" emotionally or even let out strong feelings publicly, because displays of passion do not come naturally and make him feel self-consciousness and vulnerable to painful criticism. This makes the individual generally seem emotionally neutral and politely indifferent to excitement and agitation around him. The individual deeply dislikes attempts by others to get him to "cheer up" or "join the fun", especially in the context of group activities with loud emotional expression.
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Idk y my eyes always look sad, anyway pic for VI: Attachment 16099
The more I read ILI tho... -.-.. stuff like this is sadly true of me:
ILIs are typically out of touch with expressing their emotional states. They are often seen as cold, unresponsive, and undesiring of human contact (which is often not the case). As a consequence, ILIs tend to be somewhat reclusive and often feel out of touch with their social surroundings. The rules of social "games" are often not naturally understood by ILIs. The are often unconfident and uneasy in social settings, especially those in which they feel that are expected to abide by social conventions that they have little connection to such as tribesmanship or purposeless joviality. Additionally, ILIs tend to regard the development of trust with others with significant anxiety, fearing that their inner world or antisocial tendencies will be unfavorably looked upon by others, and that most of the good will and friendliness they see in others is a pretense of social interaction rather than an expression of genuine emotional reactions. Often ILIs eschew many social situations and neglect emotional association with groups, instead seeking deep emotional connections with individuals.
ILIs are often seen as especially negative, overly critical, and sometimes harsh in their judgments. This is in part because ILIs -- when serious -- tend to communicate in a direct, straightforward manner. They sometimes are unaware of others' reactions to their ideas and may avoid sugar-coating them. Many ILIs see their criticism as constructive and believe that they would be doing others no good by withholding their ideas. Because of their incessant criticism and negativism, ILIs are sometimes seen as haughty or arrogant.
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Nice bookcase/shelf, and nice photo!
ILI could work, yes. Definitely either SLI or ILI, there's something Fe PoLR about those so-called "sad eyes" you mentioned.
I agree with SLI. I see Si/Te rather than Ni/Te.
Hmm, I do test INTP under MBTI even if I try to push the sensing part a bit on questioners kinda felt like puzzle pieces snapping together ILI-INTP-type 6
In terms of what i require to be active tho, I think Ne or Se would work, ANYTHING that would get me out of my head, out of the house and out there doing something more productive than thinking.
xLI, I would go with SLI first.
mbti INTP = ILI
Se dual seeking (esp bolded): "I need help with the social sphere, with getting out of the house, with avoiding procrastination and laziness. Someone needs to drag me with them so I engage with the external world and take action."
"I find petite willful loudmouth women to be funny/cute. Its like when a weasel tries to scold you hehe.. kawaii :3. Sentimental naïve idealists seem to be loved by society, but I just find them annoying/frustrating and often plain dumb."
(this is so NOT seeking a Delta NF, as far as underlined. Very gamma NT evaluation imo)
"Yes. Fear, overthinking things leads to procrastination and inaction. Its one of my biggest problems."
Some more Gamma NT: "Reinvest the money and build assets to make sure I don't waste it like most idiots who win the lottery."
And all the nice strong & pragmatic language of a Gamma NT all over the place
"Do you like surprises?
I didn't read on after all that
I'm pretty sure I've seen more INTP LII than ILI
Idk if this correlates well, but under the big5 test Openness is one of my strongest traits, e_e extremely open minded here.. maybe thats N.
The following is 100% true of me: .
- I like to stay open to respond to whatever happens.
- I appear to be loose and casual. I like to keep plans to a minimum.
- I like to approach work as play or mix work and play.
- I work in bursts of energy.
- I am stimulated by an approaching deadline.
- Sometimes I stay open to new information so long I miss making decisions when they are needed.
O.o the one thing I don;t relate to MBTI P tho is being internally "decicive"... <.< in this I'm more like MBTI IJ types, interally I'm also very flexible / reasonable. Being indecisive full of doubts, a skeptic.. adrift in a sea of chaos, yeah.
I think I appear calm to other people mostly for the same reason I'm Fe PolR..
Or I was just raised by bats: https://youtu.be/hb7W_cikUp0 hahaha
Food for thought, but my LSI friend (dunno which subtype) scores /high/ on openness to experience (I even gave him a real Big-5 questionnaire once, so I know his scores). Higher openness is mostly correlated with higher intelligence, and he is intellectually curious (and an academic).
The one SLI I like seems to very open as well (Si-sub), you do remind me of him (albeit he is more delicate/considerate - not to offend you ofc!, aligns himself to stoicism, also he has close NF friends as well).
also I score high on openness typically
Myeah.. I was never good at being delicate, tactful or politically correct. I have a bad habit of just being blunt with how I see things.. so unless I see a need for being persuasive, such as trying to convince someone I'm more likely to just unintentionally offend people.
I'll be honest I prefer/like to just push though people and despite being a skinny nerd I am mentally quite agressive, especially when it comes to being correct about the facts and fair with people ... but in a lot of situations this is a very bad approach and I want to work on becoming more diplomatic.. but only for the utility.
In no way do I like dancing around issues trying to convince people, its just something that has to be done. Force often just fails and generates conflict / leads to bad outcomes.
e_e in terms of dichotomies i think I'm reasonable and not at all decicive also carefree and not farsighted. I care about the result, not the process to reach it. I'm always relaxed and just mobalize for the task, then demobalize as that seems to be my natural state of being.
So I think SLI is more likely. Being type 6 makes me seem more ILI imo.
Even at work I care more about comfort, autonomy and ease than prestige or money.
Why or how do you dislike surprises? IEE is full of surprises tbh lol but maybe not to an SLI...? lol
Also you basically said you like SEEs more than IEEs: willful loudmouths over sentimental naive idealists...
(Btw, Tyler1 is just such a willful loudmouth lol)
I dislike surprises, because a surprise means I have to mobalize myself to respond to it and if I'm relaxed I'm slow to mobalize..plus its annoying to have to do that.. e_e
I imagined SEE being more of a happy chappy sanguine who is inspirational... not a choleric.
I'm like a cat.. kinda lazy, well unless I found something interesting, in which case I can do odd things like being so engaged I only realize what time it is when the birds start chirping outside.. then panic that I have to go to work in 2 hours and haven't slept all night.
SLI is more like a cat than ILI, heh
Well ok I don't think I have any more input atm. Hope you'll eventually settle with a type (or you already did?)
some descriptions in socionics are very general and stereotypical, so it's better not to pay too much attention to them
I still think you are ILI
but I hope that your soul will still be safe B|
Features of behavior
The main features of SLI's behavior that are notable in close contact - is pragmatism and orientation at tangible returns. The SLI is always economical and prudent, never does work for free on enthusiasm alone. He begins working with some difficulty. Usually, some time passes before he is actively working. But once he has started on something, he then tries to squeeze things to their very last drop. In everyday practicality he has no equals. In behavior SLI strives for full independence. He allows unfamiliar people close to himself only up to a certain point, where they can't have real impact on him. Values friendship very much. Will host people at his place any time. Does everything to save a person if hears cries for help. Loves thrilling experiences which he attains by a variety of ways: active vacations, fast driving, etc. The record for thrills was set by Grigory Rasputin, who, due to this trait which was exaggerated in him, became a historical figure. Has clear internal convictions and beliefs, and a clear set of requirements for himself, which he persistently follows. Moreover, SLI's internal "code of honor" may diverge from the accepted norms of behavior. He gives very little consideration to others' opinion about him. Always shows great tenacity. Does not listen to and obey unreasonable, from his point of view, commands. Acts only as he sees it fit. This can create a reputation for him of being obstinate, quarrelsome, mischief-seeker, hooligan, punk, and so on.