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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    The pitches usually attempted to skirt potential risks with a project; LIEs often seem to think that they can handle any problem ad hoc and in theory, that could be true but the devil is in the details. What bites them in the ass bites the customer or backer of the project. In half the cases, it's not deliberate because LIEs seem to downplay risk or the unknowns even to themselves so it's usually up to the third party to uncover it. The audience, once burnt, distrusts the LIEs abilities so they usually have to move on.

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    I have (almost) no business experience, unlike Adam, but this is also generally true about me as well. My mother used to even say that motto to me constantly until recently: "the devil is in the details"

    That is also related to a comment I made somewhere some time ago about being Si painful "either all in or not"
    So when you are "loyal" to an idea, you're "all in" and you're devoting yourself and everything you have to make that vision happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    I have (almost) no business experience, unlike Adam, but this is also generally true about me as well. My mother used to even say that motto to me constantly until recently: "the devil is in the details"

    That is also related to a comment I made somewhere some time ago about being Si painful "either all in or not"
    So when you are "loyal" to an idea, you're "all in" and you're devoting yourself and everything you have to make that vision happen.
    My business experience is actually pretty crappy. What I do seems really simple, but I could see it being workable only to someone with LIE traits.

    It consists of two basic courses of action. One, I pitch an idea to one or more customers, usually at a too-low price, and if they go for it, I bring the people and the resources together to accomplish the project. Sometimes, customers approach me with some problem. This course of action has not been spectacularly profitable.
    Or Two, I write proposals for government contracts for things that the government wants, and then bring the people and the resources forward to accomplish the project. This has been incredibly profitable, but it is not working towards my own vision. However, having the robust financial margins of government contracts is incredibly helpful because it compensates for my permanent tendency to underestimate what resources a project is going to require.

    This has been a good day. I've found out a lot about myself this morning on the forum.

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