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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Socionics should be about cognition. This type of data processing is not truly unconscious; it's just that some of the habitual stuff runs in the background. Now, manipulation often attacks the animalistic side (eg., self-preservation) but manipulation through suggestion has to to be an output from someone (not merely an IE), and the manipulative input that we receive has to be rationalized and that total process cannot be limited to one IE. Limiting the source of suggestive functioning of a type to one IE is a stretch - and manipulation an even bigger one......
    Sorry, it is close to being unconscious. If you are LII then yeah you've probably been manipulated by Fe inputs without ever noticing.

    I didn't limit anything to one IE.

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    @grumpyvic81 In your last sentence, you seem to imply that manipulation is not limited one IE but in the previous sentence, you say that I've been manipulated by one IE? Output cannot be produced without input of some sort so I certainly don't see Fe by itself producing suggestion and thus manipulation - although Socionics modelling does seem to erroneously propose that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    @grumpyvic81 In your last sentence, you seem to imply that manipulation is not limited one IE but in the previous sentence, you say that I've been manipulated by one IE? Output cannot be produced without input of some sort so I certainly don't see Fe by itself producing suggestion and thus manipulation - although Socionics modelling does seem to erroneously propose that.....
    who the fuck would interpret my words in such an idiotic way

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