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    I really wish I could be more productive! I've always been really ambitious and success driven, I want to earn my place in this society and I want to be appreciated and noticed for my abilities. But, I can't make myself work. I have these spurs of inspiration that usually motivate me to work, but they don't last very long. I'm mostly inactive and I feel a lack of energy and motivation to do anything. I get really easily lost in my thoughts and I start to daydream to the point I just disconnect from reality. Usually, after days of being inactive, I feel guilty enough to push myself into doing some more work, but that doesn't last long. I can push myself for a few days, or a week, but sooner or later, I either slip into being phlegmatic and lazy or get depressed and drained. Either way, I always end up being inactive.

    I know this is a common issue for IEI because of low Te and Se. My question is... Is there any way in this universe, to make myself more energetic? I really hate how inactive I can be, but I've failed in dealing with this terribly. Firm regime and rules, don't work for me, even when I try to apply them on myself. My partner tries to help me by motivating me and asking me about how I progress with my work, but that's not enough either.

    Feeling guilty about being lazy is even worse, 'cause that makes me feel worthless and depressed, that even leads to being more inactive... it's a circle.

    Can an IEI ever become productive?
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    I don't know how you can motivate yourself to work, because I have the same problem. But here are some examples of productive IEI's whom I know.

    1. My female cousin. She dog-sits for rich people. They call her to watch their dog when they go on vacations. She loves dogs (they are simple and faithful, like SLE's), so she goes out to find love and she can work by sitting in a different rich family's house all day long and just read or play with the dog. Her customers book her time weeks in advance, and the dogs love her.

    2. My IEI hairdresser. He brings out the beauty in every one of his customers, and his customers book his time weeks in advance so all he does is go into his salon, open the windows, check the orchids, turn on the nebulizer, adjust the picture frames or decide to change the pictures, and people show up automatically. He makes women beautiful, he gets to pretend that he's gay with a lot of them, and they write him large checks and are grateful.

    3. The IEI therapist mother of an ESI I know. She has a practice wherein she listens to people and gives them advice. People book her time weeks in advance, so all she has to do is show up and listen.

    If you can't motivate yourself, one trick that I've read about and which I find works about half the time is to overbook yourself. You have a series of unpleasant tasks to do and you do the least unpleasant one first, while putting the rest off for a while. However, the first one got done. Magic. Now give yourself a treat, take a walk, drink some coffee, then decide which one is the next least painful. You don't have to do the absolute worst one right away. Or maybe ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I don't know how you can motivate yourself to work, because I have the same problem. But here are some examples of productive IEI's whom I know.

    1. My female cousin. She dog-sits for rich people. They call her to watch their dog when they go on vacations. She loves dogs (they are simple and faithful, like SLE's), so she goes out to find love and she can work by sitting in a different rich family's house all day long and just read or play with the dog. Her customers book her time weeks in advance, and the dogs love her.

    2. My IEI hairdresser. He brings out the beauty in every one of his customers, and his customers book his time weeks in advance so all he does is go into his salon, open the windows, check the orchids, turn on the nebulizer, adjust the picture frames or decide to change the pictures, and people show up automatically. He makes women beautiful, he gets to pretend that he's gay with a lot of them, and they write him large checks and are grateful.

    3. The IEI therapist mother of an ESI I know. She has a practice wherein she listens to people and gives them advice. People book her time weeks in advance, so all she has to do is show up and listen.

    If you can't motivate yourself, one trick that I've read about and which I find works about half the time is to overbook yourself. You have a series of unpleasant tasks to do and you do the least unpleasant one first, while putting the rest off for a while. However, the first one got done. Magic. Now give yourself a treat, take a walk, drink some coffee, then decide which one is the next least painful. You don't have to do the absolute worst one right away. Or maybe ever.
    I agree with the overbook thing. Usually, when I feel more energized than usual, I want everything done right away, so I do overbook myself and keep myself on the run. Having a lot of things I need to get done actually energizes me and I feel good and more motivated when I'm busy. The thing is... I tend to really overdo it. Like, I exhaust myself completely working for 12 hours one day and I have no energy for the rest of the days, so my performance can go from 120 % one day to 10 % the other day... Being moody doesn't help either.
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    I mentioned this subject in my description and I personally know very productive IEIs:

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ription-by-I-O

    a.k.a. I/O

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    The productive IEIs I know are related to Se people in some way. A friend of mine who's an artist has an Se mother, another who runs a business of rental of furniture is married to Se woman. He works from home. Set his office in there and use the living room and garage to pile furniture. I also know one female IEI who's mother of two and married to an SEE that she helps in some way with his projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    The productive IEIs I know are related to Se people in some way. A friend of mine who's an artist has an Se mother, another who runs a business of rental of furniture is married to Se woman. He works from home. Set his office in there and use the living room and garage to pile furniture. I also know one female IEI who's mother of two and married to an SEE that she helps in some way with his projects.
    My mother's ESI, but she has basically zero tolerance for laziness and slacking, so her method is to shame and humiliate people, who are like that and that really isn't very helpful. Maybe Se doms are different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fay View Post
    My mother's ESI, but she has basically zero tolerance for laziness and slacking, so her method is to shame and humiliate people, who are like that and that really isn't very helpful. Maybe Se doms are different.
    I'm not sure, but I think the mother of my friend is ESI-Se. She was a guerrilla girl and his brother is an SLE military. He moved right after finishing hs. One of his reason was that when he was at home, his mom was always nagging. That forced him to become self sufficient soon and leave. His brother left soon too to enter in the military school. So maybe what you describe is part of the process. I can say that my friend is one of the "happiest" and conscious IEI I've known, in the sense that he has traveled more and enjoyed his life. I think he's married now with another ESI woman. In contrast, I know one with Si parents that's 40yo, who's neurotic, unhappy, inconsiderate and immature and never left home. These Si parents always tried to give and do what was best for her according their own perspective ofc, which was basically unconditional benefits with few rules and limited opposition.

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    @Fay Why do you want to be more productive? Aren’t you already an artist? That kind of work isn’t really affected by the same kinds of productivity cycles that others are.

    Usually “pushing to meet deadlines” and “creativity” go opposite ways.

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    it’s simple, make yourself feel more pain not doing it, then doing it. No pain, no gain.
    No? That’s no the answer you wanted to hear? You wanted to hear something easy and magical?

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    The short answer is no, you will never be productive because you suck. I've talked to IEIs and they tell me about their problems, but the things is that usually their problems are really simple. So I listen, and I tell them simple steps on how to solve their problems, but it's as if they don't hear what I'm saying because they just go back to explaining the problem and don't seem interested in my idea of how to solve it. Idk if this is Te polr or something and it's triggering you guys, but this is my take on it. My take on all of this is that life isn't really that complicated and you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. It's easy to become influenced by the media into thinking you have to be a millionaire or a genious or something, but you really don't. Especially if you're a woman, just be pretty and it'll work out for you. Being super ambisious is glorified in our culture, but it's a curse more than anything, it fucking sucks and you're depressed all the time and criticising yourself.

    If you still wanna improve I'll give you some tips. First of all, be honest with yourself, do you really want this goal you set up for yourself? Because if you don't you're just fooling yourself. If you do, visualize it all the time, keep reminding yourself of the future you want. I do this all the time and I'm crying and shit, it's pathetic but it works. The thought of not getting it makes me feel sick. Set goals for yourself and make up rules, I know you hate this, but when you have a deadline and a rule of what to do and what not to do, it puts pressure on you and it makes the goal become more real and tangible. Like I'm trying to lose weight, and I made this daily diet, I eat the same boring shit every day. And I cheat all the time and I keep fucking up, but the net outcome is still weightloss, because I keep to the diet atleast some days. And the rules I make for myself are totally arbitrary and made up, but it doesn't matter, it just has to work. Also tell all your friends about your goal, and I mean everyone. Because if everyone knows what your goal is and you don't acheive it, man that sucks.

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    Thanks @GuavaDrunk @Tommy and @Aylen . I love how colorful the bottom of my post looks now.

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    What causes these spurs of inspiration, do you know? Perhaps it would be interesting for you to be able to tap into whatever causes these spurs of inspiration at will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fay
    I have these spurs of inspiration that usually motivate me to work, but they don't last very long.


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