Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
I think that you should take what is most apparent about a person first when you're typing them. And what jumps out about Elon to me is his Ne. That seems quite strong to me and the most obvious thing about him. Is it leading, or is it demonstrative? Both of those are strong fxns. And so then I go to temperament - does he seem more EJ, or more EP? That one is actually harder to determine in his case as I can see arguments for both. So, Te vs Ti, alpha vs gamma - and I'd put him as alpha and Ti. But, I start from the most obvious and go from there.
That is kind of a shallow evaluation.

Something that I've noticed with DCNH typings is that often what I see as most obvious, people use as the DCNH instead. DCNH with strongest apparent Ne is creative sub. And pretty much universally people type Elon as C-sub. There was a thread over in delta where what I saw as most striking and obvious about a person was their Si (and I thought they were SEI), but for others the Si is instead used to justify the subtype ascribed rather than assumed to be their main type. I like DCNH, but I don't like that it excuses or rewrites the entire way a person can come across, because then it just seems like a lot of muddying the waters. The approach of "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is probably a duck" is more the way I go about it.
So how do you define what DCNH type someone is. What are the criteria / system for determining the subtypes? I want to see if you know or not. What are the dichotomies?

Again, vibes and feelings about people's type while indicative is no substitute for a proper logical breakdown of how and why someone fits a specific type or not. Thats how ppl on MBTI forums do it. Shallow stereotyping.