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    Default Can logical types be 4's ?

    Say yes or no and why, and post examples if you have any.

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    no. image types are clearly correlated to feeler types.

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    If one wishes to make a perfectly consistent pan-systemic form of typology, then no, logical types can't be 4s. Otherwise, does it matter?

    I've seen Leonard Cohen typed as SLI and Kafka typed as ILI, and they're both probable 4s. There are other likely typings, but it's something to consider.

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    Being a Logical type does not preclude one from having a fixation in image.

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    I think I'd type myself as 7+4i (type 7 with 4 as the imaginary component). Lol, I think this complex imaginary plane is simply the best addition to the enneagram developed by WinnieW and me (far exceeds wings, tritypes and integrations). In my case own fixation generates unique image.
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    What do you mean by "logical"?
    They have T in their type, that they can be reasonable, or that they rely solely on data for decision making?
    If you mean, are there any that only rely on logic? My answer is no. Do they at times, they rely on logic? Yes. But most likely it would be surrounding topics that don't involve the heart. I would say sp 4w5 would be the best at it though.

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    I think my E-type is 5w4, and people seem to think I'm LII. So I'm almost an example of one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No name View Post
    What do you mean by "logical"?
    They have T in their type, that they can be reasonable, or that they rely solely on data for decision making?
    If you mean, are there any that only rely on logic? My answer is no. Do they at times, they rely on logic? Yes. But most likely it would be surrounding topics that don't involve the heart. I would say sp 4w5 would be the best at it though.
    Types with logic on ego block (socionics).

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    There can't really be full causation between the two systems imo. One deals with personal fixations the other deals with cognition and ability to process different types of information - which, of course will definitely affect correlation and skew people into thinking that these two systems are fully connected. But enneagram doesn't infer ability, merely points to places in which we hurt. I don't see how that points to a 100% correlation between socionics and enneagram, because people are so varied, there'll be times when a 4 is a logical type. As with all other combinations... Although some may well be more impossible than others, like 8 EII (more likely to actually be a disintegrated 2).That being said, I agree with the previously mentioned 4w5 sp being the most likely logical contender.

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