I've literally had a headache reading @mu4 response to my post. It's not that I didn't understand what he said but rather as if the clock of my mind was forced to spin counter clockwise. It induces a headache because I had to really concentrate to follow his train of thoughts. I think it's completely type related !
Might be IEI, either way some NF type.Originally Posted by Northstar
Some socionics pro typed Aldous as IEI. Like here.
Yes, IEI is plausible.
I agree, I've heard this before from IEI about ILE.
In godslave's thread on typing, I gave him a headache too.
Curious
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
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What I (and probably some other folks here) feel when I read some of your artistic poetic cryptic posts, is not really the same kind of headache. It's more like when you try reconstruct several puzzles of which the pieces are mixed together and some of which are missing...
It takes time and several "pass" for me to get it but sometimes I just don't get it at all. Most of the time it's a problem of references as a result I can't connect ideas appropriately and thus make sense and appreciate the "Art".
I have no problem following your regular posts.
What I (and probably some other folks here) feel when I read some of your artistic poetic cryptic posts, is not really the same kind of headache. It's more like when you try reconstruct several puzzles of which the pieces are mixed together and some of which are missing...
It takes time and several "pass" for me to get it but sometimes I just don't get it at all. Most of the time it's a problem of references as a result I can't connect ideas appropriately and thus make sense and appreciate the "Art".
I have no problem following your regular posts.
Yes, the 1D Ti caused headache..
Oh, I didn't realize I come off this way. spacious said something similar yesterday about it. Kb said it in Shout, that CosmicCat and myself get 1'st & 2nd place for cryptic writing. Lol.What I (and probably some other folks here) feel when I read some of your artistic poetic cryptic posts, is not really the same kind of headache. It's more like when you try reconstruct several puzzles of which the pieces are mixed together and some of which are missing...
It takes time and several "pass" for me to get it but sometimes I just don't get it at all. Most of the time it's a problem of references as a result I can't connect ideas appropriately and thus make sense and appreciate the "Art".
I have no problem following your regular posts.
I can read him fine. I once played with another ILE here in word play, making up acronyms.
It seemed easy for us, and that is type related I think.
Enjoy your night, I assume it is way past evening in your hailing zone.
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Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
I think intellectuals on the level of Huxley still exist, but our society does not value them, so they never get discovered. I've seen some geniuses on the internet, and I do not use this word lightly, but they have their photography online for example with like 5-10 views per photo, completely obscure. Really deep thinkers are unable to advertise themselves. When I was initially thinking about introverted intuition, I specifically had deep, abstract thinkers in mind, and films like 2001: A Space Odyssey, or Tarkovsky's Stalker. It was just later that I discovered that it's much more complex and that the concrete conservative can also have introverted intuition as base function, but it is not going to be about abstract art or science, but rather strategic use of concrete machinery. I do think this observation was genuinely unique and it's still incomprehensible to most here, although deep down I do not like to point it out that much (although a part of me wants others to know of course). Real brilliance must ultimatively be noticed by others. You have to trust that people will see it over time, and if they don't, well than your idea wasn't that brilliant anyway.
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There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
The good place is such an alpha show
realized i was an EII-Ne after dating an ILE-Ne and realizing that i like them 50x better than ILE-Ti. for some reason ILE-Ti is the louder type?
i wouldn't say my consciousness is extremely extraverted, but i guess i don't care about Fi as much as i could. i think i think about Ne more and i take Fi for granted. i also accepted that i wasn't disagreeable, which is often totally ambiguous for me, but yeah once you put it under the light long enough it starts being obvious. i guess type really can't be "anything" can it
also i accepted being social 4 again! took me years to go in that circle
an IEE gave advice to an ESI on here about try to frame the relational problems you're experiencing without resorting to the socionics IM names, instead use more general terminology, and I thought that was good advice. I think I'm already prone to falling into reductionistic thinking and I'm starting to see maybe diminishing returns in my application of socionics to explain human relations
ESI: "prissy yet sexual"
(can't find source for that description, let me know if you know it!)
The author of a lot of the articles, including the Qaudras, identifies as ESI.
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
Photo of my mother, EIE, reminds me of Si PoLR, with the fist in her side.
Tense, always ready to go, never relaxed.
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
Do IEIs not like Ne? It seems to be a pattern, assuming no mistypes. ILIs don't seem to be the same. It might have something to do with IEI being involved and abstract and ILI being double abstract? Does that make IEI are more in touch with reality?
According to the inventors of socionics, clenched teeth and fists indicate
Photo of my mother, EIE, reminds me of Si PoLR, with the fist in her side.
Tense, always ready to go, never relaxed.information elements present in inner time... while
looks infantile.
Please watch the video; copyright law forbids a U.S. citizen from receiving instruction on ripping the relevant scene featuring the fourth doctor (the curly-haired man with a scarf).
Process v result, also Te superego
I am in my head; not society.
Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am. Also, a brain angel. (+ my own incarnation of a Zelda concept).
My thoughts align w action to succeed what needs (at least in my dreamed ideal, they do)…
Dragons:
Babies, click them to make them grow up into Kara’s Dragon Museum
My favorite adult Museum Exhibits
She vibes strongly like an Se Ego to me (but that's just my perspective !). If I may ask, can you share with us how does Ni creative manifests in her ? Also, It is said that Extroverts behave more like introverts in private (i.e. at close psychological distance) (and vice versa) , can you confirm that tendency in you mother's behavior (and yours too
Photo of my mother, EIE, reminds me of Si PoLR, with the fist in her side.
Tense, always ready to go, never relaxed.) ?
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I just realized that I had a date (sort of, kind of) with my conflictor a few years ago. And during that date, he brought up a dual we both know and he praised him. Lol. He had a lot of respect for him and his knowledge/experience. Funny how the mind works.
@Distance, your mom looks like me! The facial symmetry and proportions are nearly the same, plus the hair and the hairstyle. I type as LIE though (I had an EIE best friend for ten years and I know 100% I'm not one). Love the way she looks like she's plotting something haha.
She used to say some girl is going to steal you away from me, babying me, or use a strategy to get what she wants in a strategic planned event. Like leading someone to where the outcome generated the result she wanted. Reading people in how they tick.She vibes strongly like an Se Ego to me (but that's just my perspective !). If I may ask, can you share with us how does Ni creative manifests in her ? Also, It is said that Extroverts behave more like introverts in private (i.e. at close psychological distance) (and vice versa) , can you confirm that tendency in you mother's behavior (and yours too
In so doing understanding the underpinnings/ motives.
Always aware of what will happen, not like SEE in the moment in a sensory moment to moment drive.
IDK on your question of 2 forms of behavior. EJ is steady to me. One track mind, whether one, 2, 3, or many in the address.
She was Fe type and very emotional. Fe also means Se.
Se more activated, hence PoLR look. Uncomfortable in the present moment.
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
I could maybe see some similarity to my EIE-Fe grandmother (pictured with my LSI step-grandfather and cousin (type unknown)). I don’t have many good pics at hand right now, things got lost and disorganized when we moved last.
Photo of my mother, EIE, reminds me of Si PoLR, with the fist in her side.
Tense, always ready to go, never relaxed.
There's the usual male LSI scowl.I could maybe see some similarity to my EIE-Fe grandmother (pictured with my LSI step-grandfather and cousin (type unknown)). I don’t have many good pics at hand right now, things got lost and disorganized when we moved last.
My dad used to say, Bah Humbug around the holidays.
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
My LSE sister, who cuts her hair very short and looks like she works in a lumberyard, just got herself a Subaru Forester, so I guess she's official now.
She married a male IEI, but they don't have kids. For some reason.
Aster, could your cousin be LIE? He's wearing the expression that I'd have if I were raised by an EIE and an LSI.I could maybe see some similarity to my EIE-Fe grandmother (pictured with my LSI step-grandfather and cousin (type unknown)). I don’t have many good pics at hand right now, things got lost and disorganized when we moved last.
He’s a great guy, despite! Ha! Someone I admire.There's the usual male LSI scowl.
My dad used to say, Bah Humbug around the holidays.
Think he might be an NF. Maybe like IEE. He and my LSI step grandfather used to conflict so bad lol. He was the most annoying kid growing up! He drove me insane. Now he’s a pretty chill adult. He worked at a crunchy bakery making cookies for a long time. I have no idea what he’s doing now. He used to be really social and now has kinda been a hermit, by his own account. I haven’t seen or talked to him since my mom’s funeral. But that’s probably mostly my fault.
Steady and dutiful and done right is the way.
Overall i like them.
One son in-law helped me with stress on the situation with the duplex i inherited, that i mention in Shout. We were at a funeral out of town, and outside he asked me how everything is going. I said this and that, as one step forward, 2 back, being consumed by it. He said, hey, it is a process, processes takes time. They usually are calm and that helps out a lot.
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1620573
Such a beautiful song in link.
The guitarist wrote it in '72 inspired by his beach visit.
Tony Iommi, and he once said, he always knew Ozzy's next move in a prediction.
Sound like a Dual?
LSI if Ozzy is EIE.
Pick a strawman and you'll find a scared crow
The good news in knowing you are wrong is you are right
♦ ♦
With the way things are going with Trump's threats, I'm almost wondering if I should share my insights here, or if it's better to keep them to myself. I almost see America has the enemy now, and I'm fighting this view that every american is guilty by association. If Trump is just going to threaten everyone, including germany, what point is there in sharing insights with an american, a potential enemy? It's weird. Better to operate locally, but it's not like most people here are bright enough to undersand my perspective anyway, even if it does sound arrogant. Let the republicans have their imperialist dreams before their rotten society collapses in on itself. I see myself almost happy that LA is burning to the ground.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
Electoral politics in the US are a joke. Maybe as a foreigner you don't know this, but no serious and sane person regards anything a politician says. There's no way the US would actually invade Canada/Greenland/Germany, and thinking or caring about it is a waste of time unless you're trying to spread the joking around.
Also FYI whatever Trump's been talking about has nothing to do with the Republican Party or its actual goals, which incidentally aren't really different enough wrt foreign policy from the Democrats to be worth describing. Both parties are imperialist. LA, if you're happy about it burning, is run by Democrats.
Your country is run by a similar group of assholes united by things like anti-Russian interests and Mossad blackmail to my country's assholes like a gigantic multinational human centipede, so I doubt we'll be at war with each other any time soon.
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Actually, most German politicians are on the payroll of Gasprom. They not only take money directly from Putin and so have a personal interest in seeing the Ukrainians lose their war against Russia, they have a professional interest in a functioning, prosperous, warlike Russia. Germany exports machine tools to Russia (which the Russians use to built tanks and stuff), and Germany used to import back oil and gas. It was a perfect trade, until the Ukrainians and the Americans screwed up the Russo-German deal by resisting the Russian takeover of the Ukrainian oil fields with warm-water access to the oceans.
However, the US did manage to start selling gas to Germany, so to the US oil industry, that's a win.
It is in the interests of the Ukrainians to not be subjects of the Russian mafia, and it is in the interests of the US oil and gas industry to destroy Russian oil and gas production, so that's what is happening.
It is a pity that Biden was playing 100% defense and only agreed to strikes on Russian oil refineries and not Russian electricity distribution networks (they will be needed intact when the US sells them gas) or the Russian railroads (most of which are electric). He said to the Ukrainians, "We'll be with you until the end." That's a lot different from saying that "We want to see you win and Russia lose."
A war planner who wanted to bring Russia to its knees and didn't care about selling them gas in the future would target the means by which Russia gets war materials to the front. That is bridges (off limits by Biden), airfields (off limits by Biden), electricity distribution centers (not being struck for SOME FUCKING REASON - WHAT COULD IT BE?), and railroad lines and bridges.
However, it's OK to destroy the Russian navy, along with Russian oil transport ships. The Ukrainians want the ships gone because they efficiently transport Russian war supplies to the front, and the US oil and gas industry wants the ships gone because they transport Russian oil and gas to the rest of the world. So, the Russian navy gets destroyed, but not the rest of the Russian transport system.
If you can't get men and material to the front, it's exactly as if you don't have them in the first place. But Biden placed these things off limits to the Ukrainians when using US weapons.
If the Ukrainians prevail, and I hope they do, it will be in spite of the "help" that the West is supposedly giving them.
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“Sometimes you recognize that there is a category of human experience that has not been identified but everyone knows about it. That is when I find a term to describe it.”
— Brian Eno
IN(T) INFJ 5w4 514 so/sp RCOAI
Stereotypically speaking, chess is strategic while competitive smash is tactical.
I think IEI's are the mirror of the society they represent, and Trump is a mirror for america. I dislike germany for sending Israel weapons but the US seems like a clownish hellhole compared to germany. In the last couple of days, I told a few people that Musk and Trump need to be killed by someone. Most of the people were normies, but instead of getting a shocked reaction (which would have definitely been the case 5-10 years ago), there was a silence or even agreement. We are changing psychologically and something as stupid as socionics cannot explain it. I think there will simply not be a global "community" in a few years.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
The L.A. fires are probably the result of climate change, which is mainly perceived by the left, who seem to have on average a better grasp of abstract long-term consequences, yet the major Karen Bass, who honestly looks a lot like Tim Walz, and also looks like a leftist, seems to have mismanaged a lot of concrete, immediate issues, which seem to be more perceived by the right. I think there's a fundamental difference in these two sides, even with an existence of various subsections within the left and the right, regardless of the sociotype they have, but maybe that's just me, and maybe I'm wrong and all ST types are just right-wing conservatives and all NF types are leftist progressives. Who cares honestly.
Edit: now that I think about it, Warren Buffett also looks like Tim Walz imo
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ty/ar-AA1oEByO
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There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
I thought I was a sx9 when I first joined this website and then I went through like 4 other enneagram types before I really buckled down to read all I could about the Enneagram (written by several authors) and also took several tests as backup… and came to the realization that I was right on my first try. I was a sx9 all along, huzzah
As far as Socionics types, I get along best with Alpha SFs and Delta NFs. EIIs are the cutest imo
You get along with Alpha SF because you're LII and you enjoy delta NF because that's where you go to self harm.
If you want to learn how to become serious... go to LIE. That's the other half of your type, innocent fake.
I disagree with many things you say about the types, but I wish there were more people like you and WellArmedCat on this site. You have a sort of smooth, non-confrontational personality that makes it hard to get into a heated argument with you, somewhat similar to godslave, which is honestly what this website needs the most. You probably perceive interpersonal dynamics very well, whether or not people get along with each other, and you likely evaluate facial expressions to assess how people respond to your own behavior etc.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
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