You don't understand, it's not that you agree with him, it's that you're basically the same person when it comes to writing style. You don't copy someone's writing style, but it's very very hard to hide when it's the same person acting with sock puppets. Seen it many times before on different (non-typology, it's not my main interest by far) forums.Originally Posted by nifl
Your attempt to obfuscate by grammar quality doesn't hide the basic skeleton of your writing.
Can be among factors.
Also, having my opposing to his 2 last opinions about own type, to see someone who higher than average agrees with me about typology may annoy, what inspires conspiracy idea to reduce this by "there is no other one". Plus, some similarity in talking of mirror IR.
With nonverbal for his type the situation was not easy. Initially he thought for him LSI/ISTJ, I was close to this but after 1st video got doubts in T (he also has some higher than average result in EmotionalQ test). After 2nd video I've decided LSI as most possible. He got Gulenko's ESTP and accepted it, while I insisted on ISTJ as more possible. Now he thinks ISTP/SLI, while I stay on LSI still.
I may mistake with some chance. But ESTP and ISTP find as low possible, anyway. His talking style reminds J, as example. In case of T, LSI fits the most.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
Reading Sol's English is a delight. There's a strange poetic cadence about it. "Can be among factors." You immediately understand what he means, but if you start thinking about the sentence the strangeness hits you. Makes you turn it over a few times. And you get the sense of an interesting personality from his posts, too.
Nifl's I do not enjoy. Feels overwrought and angry.
With Sol he writes more freely Russian thoughtstream directly translated into english. With nifl, it's using some translator to help him. It's just not that he agrees with his sock puppet (except some corrections by Sol account he added later to act the "master and apprentice" relationship supposedly between them)
I don't know about interesting personality, he seems like an incel, a stalker, and has strange supernatural beliefs.
I don't care much about my supposed socionics type, the best type descriptions I can agree with is MBTI ISTP and that's why I put it in my profile. Feel free to type me in socionics how you wish, I don't guarantee I will care much about it though.
It's in all likelihood the influence of the native language, so perhaps it can sound a bit archaic (maybe modern Russian syntax is more reminiscent of English poetic/archaic syntax?), sometimes with superficial grammatical errors and uncommon word choices. Other than that, I don't think there's much strange about it. In your example, I just identify a missing subject and definite article. As your example is a statement about the possibility of the explanation I gave having influence on Northstar's behaviour, there is perhaps more strangeness to it if you have an ethical type (as in, the thinking is more foreign to you). Intriguing speech, when not looking solely at the content, is what one'd especially expect from those with other strong functions. Although, what Sol says is certainly intriguing, too.
And since you see our styles as quite different, it's obvious that Northstar's opinion is not shared by all.
Do you really think they are the same person?
It's funny that they can't see they're identicals, and type themselves differently.
Use your intuition of progress to guess the likelihood that any bit of information is going to contribute positively to a huge advancement of what is intended to be created. The end result is a massive outburst, or explosion of quantum evolution of mental creation.
If the spirit of cosmopolitan venture of psychotic metamorphosis has endorsed the neuroplasticity adaptation of human brain cells, then an increase stimulation of gray matter is able to lapidate access to genetic intelligence of contemporary mammals as a cognitive symbiosis of interstellar conglomerates of trojan-horse-analogous operating systems mitigating their self-coded script for destruction of earthly species has arrived.
Oh yeah, there's a lot of evidence for this in their behaviors. Nifl showed up after Sol went on a hiatus during the early phase of the Ukraine war. After Sol came back (maybe figured it was safe again on a western website) he didn't want to give up his danish VPN alt so now he's got a nice back-up buddy to make his opinions more weighty.
After all, it seems that it's important for him.
Like nifl hopefully posted just above "And since you see our styles as quite different, it's obvious that Northstar's opinion is not shared by all."
Who cares about the public opinion, SLI?
I wonder if nifl and sol are like these people:
https://youtu.be/i1nz5Bkpmcw
I wonder why one would do a second or more accounts to give his opinion ? Out of "fear" probably but I guess it's primarily a fear of ridicule and a cover for possible inconsistencies and contradictions. The truth is we are all dumb and lack experience in certain domains ! Some people might want to use alt for the thrill and maybe use this forum as a let off steam playground. I say embrace your dumbness, don't lie to yourself !
I don't think that was the original purpose, more likely it was to obfuscate his identity because of the strong anti-russian backlash, or maybe fearing his own govt. When nifl showed up (he used the nick blaecaedre in the beginning) it was immediately clear it was Sol.
When Sol felt it was all clear to come back his original account he still wanted to keep nifl around, probably there is more than one reason for that.
Many people on the forum noticed how identical your writing styles are, Northstar isn't the only one who sees this, but apparently FB is the only one who sees a difference.
I've seen an evolution in @nifl 's grammatical style. In the beginning it was very similar to that of @Sol but it got better in terms of articulation. I remember that at one point, I was agreeably surprised by his eloquence and I told him that his English got better, pleasant to read (compared to what it was previously) and even "poetic" or something like that.
Nifl just popped into the forum and has started a grand total of two threads, both about celebrities. Nicely in line how Sol during all his 15 years on the forum has only started 91, with also a heavy bias to threads about celebrities.
Donald Trump is ILE-D. He doesn't have the same ST vibe that Elon Musk has, and doesn't want to become a victim.
"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.
Every successful system is operating in some kind of failure mode.
For real. I’m on here flaunting my stupidity on the daily and I’m proud of it (not reallybut I’m not ashamed of it anymore, either). We should all let ourselves be dumb at least once in a while. That’s how we show our humanity
I need someone to write gay smut about nifl and Sol. I’m not tagging them, they might murder me
I would say nifl is maybe around 10-20 years younger than sol. "poetic" hmm, I wonder what type is known for that...
Who on this forum would you say is not IEI?
This is your IEI harem
What do you come up with when you turn it over?
the idea of a harem sounds nice in theory, but in practice it's just full of drama. sometimes it takes a person with a different type to notice the similarities of people with a similar type tbh.This is your IEI harem
Mystery. "Among factors." As if "factors" – here we have something abstract, hard to envision – are a forest you can lose yourself in. It reminds me of Sol's interest in tarot and mysticism. Maybe in his dark thoughts something mysterious and alien, capable of perceiving and navigating these shadowy woods, has attached itself to him, and now speaks through him even as he's being short and abrasive. There was no grammatical subject; is this suggesting something? What is it that may or may not be stalking the factors? It can be among factors, it can be among exponents...and it can be with you too.
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Most of my friends are SEI and FELV.
Edit: All of my loved ones say I’m not FELV nor SEI when they read the descriptions or aspectsThey say I’m ELVF. Wow. I think I can’t view myself objectively lol
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I find the ESTJ to be a hamburger eating type, and the ESFP chocolate.
The old label of ESTJ is so stuck to the grind of American cake baskets and fast food overhaul with a willpower of the desert water famine and challenger's of the Kobe Bryant INTJ extremities alarm sure enough is generally not too much like ESTJ...
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When Germany beat the US in the semifinal, and Serbia in the final basketball world cup 2023, it was 77-83 as Raptor was Lugia as a Kidd, and 1977 and 1983 when Star Wars came out as the George Lucas Arceus, imagining frenzy LeoSuperCluster branching parallels fissuring extremities and flurries of unicorn Mavericks
Raptor beat Marius Florin with Germany in World Cup 2014 as da Vinci INTP by Jogi Low Slowking Lugia, winner of World Cup 2006, NBA Finals 2013, and UEFA Champions League 2023. He's Andrea Pirlo over Zidane Zapdos Zarathustra Nikola Tesla Zang INTJ, Ray Allen Rayquaza Tim Duncan NOT Danny Green Celebi, and Riley Halloween over Robin Gosens INTJ and Isaac Newton George Lucas Mbappe apple Christmas. Raptor is the reincarnation of Bunny 7-1 11 Bunny ears and Lugia 17'1
The path to revenge for Raptor's losses started in 2016 with Kobe's 60 point game and the discovery of the Pokemon number code
Took an MBTI test for the first time in the while!
Highest scores were INFP (61%) and ISFP (13%)
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theory: people frequently use google as their electronic "dual"
as in, you feed it questions to satiate your mobilizing and suggestive functions.
Ni ego types in Se questions, Fe ego types in Ti-related things they wanna know about, and so on.
accurate, or do people rather search for information fuelling/expanding their ego block where they're more confident?
I agree kind of. Actually I search topics related to all valued functions, and oftentimes things related to non valued as well.theory: people frequently use google as their electronic "dual"
as in, you feed it questions to satiate your mobilizing and suggestive functions.
Ni ego types in Se questions, Fe ego types in Ti-related things they wanna know about, and so on.
accurate, or do people rather search for information fuelling/expanding their ego block where they're more confident?
Use your intuition of progress to guess the likelihood that any bit of information is going to contribute positively to a huge advancement of what is intended to be created. The end result is a massive outburst, or explosion of quantum evolution of mental creation.
If the spirit of cosmopolitan venture of psychotic metamorphosis has endorsed the neuroplasticity adaptation of human brain cells, then an increase stimulation of gray matter is able to lapidate access to genetic intelligence of contemporary mammals as a cognitive symbiosis of interstellar conglomerates of trojan-horse-analogous operating systems mitigating their self-coded script for destruction of earthly species has arrived.
I think people search for "Role" functions when they notice they need help and improvement.theory: people frequently use google as their electronic "dual"
as in, you feed it questions to satiate your mobilizing and suggestive functions.
Ni ego types in Se questions, Fe ego types in Ti-related things they wanna know about, and so on.
accurate, or do people rather search for information fuelling/expanding their ego block where they're more confident?
Maybe topics related to Ego block but to gain further current knowledge to keep himself up to date.
Suped-Id things should be more unconscious imo. Stuff that get you manipulated easily. Not the stuff, you "google".
How it's not easy to identify types for possible pairs.
I have better than average noobs typing skills, minimize usage of doubtful theories and use wide data for types understanding.
But I may do critical mistakes still.
In recent years I had 3 cases when for a woman supposed by me with assurance to have EII, later I got prevailing opinion as IEI or EIE. I came to those conclusions after monthes or years.
The info for type understanding was not bad. But, it always was on preliminary step. Not when I'd had significant irl communications with them. In 2 cases the data was through Internet, where I had a video, a questionnaire and a talking. And 1 case were several of short irl talkings + small messaging by Internet.
With common for today typing methods anyone will have significant risk to mistake in the type of other human, based on initial data. Besides to be mistaken in own type (~50%), where you may prefer types worse or not good for you.
High risk is with new people. And for those with who was no significant irl communication, no seeing a human in different situations for long time.
Would be useful to have tens of meetings with 2 hours or longer talking 1:1. During this also you'll can more clearly evaluate an existence of expected IR effects and other important traits. To evaluate a possibility for friendship interaction. This means monthes.
The problem is more serious, taken that close to duals types are among worst IR as conflictor and superego. You may mix positive impressions from different traits, as common sexual attraction, and to rely it on IR effects. When you have small data to good understand personal traits of a human.
With new and surfacely known people you should be doing the same mistakes in their types. Not a single time.
In irl talkings check how positively a human influences on you in fact. How good, inner harmonious and not strangely exhausted you are feeling from dealing with him. To reduce the possible mistake in IR.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
Talking style is different in a degree of mirror IR. For example, with some efforts you should notice J/P related difference.
Arguments are similar sometimes. This reminds when people get a typology studing course and then (in 1st time especially) act similar to what that author does. I have long time dealing with types to develop own specifics. When someone gets a higher trust to my approach and opinions, you may notice such people. For similar types such acceptance should happen easier.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
Yeah sure thing bro
Sol and nifl have the same type, which should be obvious for observers like the rest of the forum, who also happen to have the same type they do, but will for some reason see that sol and nifl are different, but the same, from the rest of us. Ok.
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Has anyone told you you're a genius? Damn it!
Use your intuition of progress to guess the likelihood that any bit of information is going to contribute positively to a huge advancement of what is intended to be created. The end result is a massive outburst, or explosion of quantum evolution of mental creation.
If the spirit of cosmopolitan venture of psychotic metamorphosis has endorsed the neuroplasticity adaptation of human brain cells, then an increase stimulation of gray matter is able to lapidate access to genetic intelligence of contemporary mammals as a cognitive symbiosis of interstellar conglomerates of trojan-horse-analogous operating systems mitigating their self-coded script for destruction of earthly species has arrived.
Gulenko doesn't care much for irrationals in his book (I didn't remember that section):
Irrationals are rarely fanatics of anything. They quite easily refuse fixedways and worldviews (though not necessarily obsolete ones!). They canafford to change the rules of the game during the game itself. For thisreason, the irrational society is a society of uncontrolled changes,chaotically combining the most contradictory aspirations. Irrationals areundisciplined and anarchic in nature and cannot follow one direction forlong.
The irrationals are the first who pick up new social trends, fashions, andpassions; however, they are also the first who abandon them as boring.Without involving rationals at crucial stages, no serious, profound changesin social life would be possible. Rationals do not tend to change theiremployment, hobbies, and social positions in society, but if they do electto switch, it will be for a long time. Irrationals, in contrast, are quicklycarried away, are inclined to change their views and activities, and findthat their interests don’t last for long
The mental (thought) process of these types is organized in the oppositeway. Rationals are called judging types because they are inclined todiscuss single topics consistently and in detail.
Gulenko's career can be analyzed through the lens of the rationality of his type. His constancy and depth can be explained through IJness and does not need unlikely explanations as Ni in the lead as the the reason behind commitment and thoroughness.
Same with other people, of course, and their commitment to what they do on top of dcnh.
Sometimes it's good to go over basic things like the above: I met 2 sisters. One is more clearly EIE... I was doutful about the other because she was a bit different from her sister and I was willing to consider IEI. But I have to admit she is also a rational, so EIE it is for her also.
IEI are lightweights as they don't really try to show resistance + they dissolve as if there was 'no core' to them, as Gulenko put it in the section where he describes rationality.
Last edited by Rusal; 09-20-2023 at 12:45 AM.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
I thought you were IEI but now I'm changing your type to LIE. You need to learn time management and stop living in flow.
"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.
Every successful system is operating in some kind of failure mode.
What can the rational/irrational dichotomy be confused with?
On description alone, maybe with valued and unvalued functions Ne-Si and Ni-Se.
If a person has problems setting goals because interests are not stable and they lack enough work capacity to work and make it to the top, then the person might think they belong to a non Ni-Se valuing quadra and the ‘burn’ to succeed is not felt keenly; but it's their instability and choosing a track and follow it through what's at work.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
ESEs have got to be the best types at pretending to work and getting out of obligations. Truly phenomenal ability.
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