Typology Random Thoughts

[godslave]

It happens very quickly. Some kind of association with what I see before me then triggers a reaction and maybe, you could say, a snap judgment. Oftentimes I will 'catch' myself doing that and try to see it for what it is, a judgment. Now that I think about it, I think I only enter that awareness when the judgment is a negative one -- the best word to describe the feeling is one of repulsion, maybe this brings in my e4-ness as well.

These are passing interactions with strangers at the small grocery co-op that I am thinking of. Why, probably has something to do with my beliefs, I'm not entirely sure. I think I can feel a lot of self-consciousness when around strangers in a small place (e.g. grocery store). I sort of wish that I were invisible in such a space to save myself the embarrassment of being seen out in public in not a fashionable outfit and having to interact with the checkout people, attempt to make conversation, they may say 'what?' because I was mumbling.

I think there are people I am curious about and those I am less curious about. Maybe for the latter group, I feel like I know enough about them based on what I pick up before me, and/or don't think that there is strong potential for us to develop any kind of relationship. Whereas in the first group, people who have some sort of charm and seem appealing to me, I'm kind of interested in getting to know more. Not that there are that many opportunities to actually form relationships with people when you are out and about! When I find someone interesting, I am at ease striking up a little convo. Not everyone is receptive to it, though. I hope this helps…

Also: I think that I like people who come off as friendly and down-to-earth. I don't like when people give off a highly stylized/curated vibe or seem esoteric* or hard to reach/get through to.

*i don't think the word 'esoteric' is usually applied towards people - more like interests or subject matter; i'm using it anyway here, with the knowledge of its likely grammatical incorrectness; this is an informal space.

Thank you very much for your time. This is very insightful indeed. I think I resemble you in many ways. Thanks again for sharing.

[thistle]

Just wondering whether anyone has an opinion on whether these two are examples of strong Extroverted Sensation?

- A person thought up a new way to manoeuvre a ship and decided to try it next time they were onboard. I presume they had the physics/range of motion of the ship in their memory and were familiar with handling it, but I was still surprised that they could come up with the plan ahead of time.

- Another person drew me the floor plan of a building that we weren't currently inside. They were able to do this from their memory.

[Distance]

Just wondering whether anyone has an opinion on whether these two are examples of strong Extroverted Sensation?

- A person thought up a new way to manoeuvre a ship and decided to try it next time they were onboard. I presume they had the physics/range of motion of the ship in their memory and were familiar with handling it, but I was still surprised that they could come up with the plan ahead of time.

- Another person drew me the floor plan of a building that we weren't currently inside. They were able to do this from their memory.

I think visual spatial skills play out the last example. Te is mechanical so it plays out prob. more in that scenario.

I think of Se as force, and in knowing how to move something in that scope, and it would weigh in favor of Se in example 1. And either way, a sensor type for the here and now interest.

[thistle]

I think visual spatial skills play out the last example. Te is mechanical so it plays out prob. more in that scenario.

I think of Se as force, and in knowing how to move something in that scope, and it would weigh in favor of Se in example 1. And either way, a sensor type for the here and now interest.

Interesting The distinctions sprung to mind pretty quickly for you.

I had grouped the two examples together and hadn't looked as the second example as mechanical. It is more of a passive interaction with a space and objects than the first example. You can draw a floor plan without knowing how you can influence it. The floor plan, in terms of walls and rooms, is rather fixed and permanent. The ship is moving.

[Still Alive]

When a baby is born, is it already aware of the force it has? Is a Te baby already efficient? You guys just make up a bunch of nonsense if I'm honest.

[Echo]

When a baby is born, is it already aware of the force it has? Is a Te baby already efficient? You guys just make up a bunch of nonsense if I'm honest.

I don’t think a person’s type is fully determined until they’re an adolescent. genetics is only one of a number of contributing factors.

[godslave]

There is an assumption that I've seen in typology community here and there that consist of believing that when S types use intuition it always contains sensory references whereas when N types use intuition it is always abscrat. I think this is not true at all and I defy anyone to prove me wrong. I think this assumption comes from Keirsey and MBTI, I've seen Ben Vaserlan talking about transcontextual ideation as the trademark of intuitive Ne thinking in which what is put in perspective are abstract ideas that don't have any sensory component.

I don't think that transcontextual thinking is exclusive to intuitive types but rather the sign of functions with high dimensionality esp 4D functions. To me these kind of declarations are like coming out of the blue without any substantial argument to demonstrate them. Beside, all intuitive types can't possibly have the same intuitive thinking style, that doesn't make sense. It's a matter of communication, if you are too abstract you can't make yourself understood by anyone no matter who you are talking to. Words have meaning for a reason.

[Distance]

There is an assumption that I've seen in typology community here and there that consist of believing that when S types use intuition it always contains sensory references whereas when N types use intuition it is always abscrat. I think this is not true at all and I defy anyone to prove me wrong. I think this assumption comes from Keirsey and MBTI, I've seen Ben Vaserlan talking about transcontextual ideation as the trademark of intuitive Ne thinking in which what is put in perspective are abstract ideas that don't have any sensory component.

I don't think that transcontextual thinking is exclusive to intuitive types but rather the sign of functions with high dimensionality esp 4D functions. To me these kind of declarations are like coming out of the blue without any substantial argument to demonstrate them. Beside, all intuitive types can't possibly have the same intuitive thinking style, that doesn't make sense. It's a matter of communication, if you are too abstract you can't make yourself understood by anyone no matter who you are talking to. Words have meaning for a reason.

Is a chess game like checkers? Or is a chess game like life?

Is a soul like a home, and internal reflections build it, and anything less is a house?

Or is a soul your body heart and mind?

What do you hear?

[godslave]

Is a chess game like checkers? Or is a chess game like life?

Life is a battlefield !

Is a soul like a home, and internal reflections build it, and anything less is a house?

Or is a soul your body heart and mind?

the body is the receptacle of the soul, rarely the other way around..

What do you hear?

This song playing right now on tv, it's in an Amazon commercial :

[Braingel]

There is an assumption that I've seen in typology community here and there that consist of believing that when S types use intuition it always contains sensory references whereas when N types use intuition it is always abscrat. I think this is not true at all and I defy anyone to prove me wrong. I think this assumption comes from Keirsey and MBTI, I've seen Ben Vaserlan talking about transcontextual ideation as the trademark of intuitive Ne thinking in which what is put in perspective are abstract ideas that don't have any sensory component.

I don't think that transcontextual thinking is exclusive to intuitive types but rather the sign of functions with high dimensionality esp 4D functions. To me these kind of declarations are like coming out of the blue without any substantial argument to demonstrate them. Beside, all intuitive types can't possibly have the same intuitive thinking style, that doesn't make sense. It's a matter of communication, if you are too abstract you can't make yourself understood by anyone no matter who you are talking to. Words have meaning for a reason.

I wanted to say earlier when we were discussing Raptor’s type, that sensors are capable of abstraction as well.. I definitely do not believe intuitive types will never be concrete, or that sensors will never abstract..

I actually had the discussion with my boyfriend who was trying to insist he’s ILE and not SLE because he’s into theories and can cogitate ideas, I made a case that almost all the big socionists are actually sensoric, and I explained that it is more a behavioral, external interaction of objects that orients largely into Se, making these fixed, rigid sensory aesthetics, that are still abstract enough to where people constantly mistake them as intuitive.. But are making an archetype from observable behavior and looks and what shows to the surface… I do not believe this is intuition at all, and many would oppose me for this saying. When someone is trying aspire into this image, I believe that they are either an Ni super ego (who is trying to delve into the dynamic but cannot do this not having a high dimensionality), or an Se one who is insecure about how they look to others. But their Ni is intact high still..

I believe things like astrology actually tend be more Se than Ni, even. They are fixed archetypes that have little expand-ability. Now natal chart astrology with the full houses and all of this is a little more Ni ish, with trying to find the main theme of the chart and forecast the future and potential from. Whereas something like aromatherapy that would surely deem as sensoric, is far more intuitive— trying to emerge hidden possibilities with the oils with little known, trying configure their working. I mean the study of, rather than the direct appliance, though. It is far more having look at the roots and developments and noticing time themes with why someone is improving and if why they work and what is possible… A willingness to dynamically explore and be open they may work at specific times.

Believe it or not, I believe western socionics aside from Kiersy, is the most sensory-dominated typology scheme.

[Braingel]

Also with the whole entrance through the role initially, this theory is interesting, and it sort of tracks with his I understand things.. It is the fixated point through which someone is too open, in how I see it, they enter it and are conscious, but this then goes into the lead function which distributes to other areas.

Ni super egos and Fi super egos with hidden agenda Ni are going to really care about western socionics… Because they are trying to emulate the essence of archetypes, yet they still can’t do it dynamically in a morphable, unfixed form and define it to rigidity. This is one reason I have been saying I believe Gulenko is a sensor, in spite his clear expansions with the model, they are of concrete, observable qualities that transfigure a very rigid archetype.. His entire “type images” are anything but intuitive… He also relies on a lot of detailed physical markers to type.

[godslave]

I wanted to say earlier when we were discussing Raptor’s type, that sensors are capable of abstraction as well.. I definitely do not believe intuitive types will never be concrete, or that sensors will never abstract..

I actually had the discussion with my boyfriend who was trying to insist he’s ILE and not SLE because he’s into theories and can cogitate ideas, I made a case that almost all the big socionists are actually sensoric, and I explained that it is more a behavioral, external interaction of objects that orients largely into Se, making these fixed, rigid sensory aesthetics, that are still abstract enough to where people constantly mistake them as intuitive.. But are making an archetype from observable behavior and looks and what shows to the surface… I do not believe this is intuition at all, and many would oppose me for this saying. When someone is trying aspire into this image, I believe that they are either an Ni super ego (who is trying to delve into the dynamic but cannot do this not having a high dimensionality), or an Se one who is insecure about how they look to others. But their Ni is intact high still..

I believe things like astrology actually tend be more Se than Ni, even. They are fixed archetypes that have little expand-ability. Now natal chart astrology with the full houses and all of this is a little more Ni ish, with trying to find the main theme of the chart and forecast the future and potential from. Whereas something like aromatherapy that would surely as sensoric, is far more intuitive— trying to emerge hidden possibilities with the oils with little unknown, trying configure their working. I mean the study of, rather than the direct appliance, though.

Believe it or not, I believe western socionics aside from Kiersy, is the most sensory-dominated typology scheme.

Indeed, since a while now I am trying to reconcile with the idea that we are more our Super-ego than our Ego. That the Ego block is at the service of the Superego block and not the other way around. This idea is indeed counter-intuitive (no pun intended) but it's part of the core socionics theory if you read Aushra work. Incidentally the social mission block in Model G and the idea of social mission is also pointing to that phenomenon. The Ego solutionize with its strong functions issues encountered in the superego domains. In other word all types identify more with their superego than with our Ego. Btw, some have associate this block esp the Role function to the Jung complex of the "persona", I think it's a huge mistake and it is misleading.

So it is not surprising to see sensory types involved in "intuitive" related domains (and vice-versa), I would even say that it is almost expected.

[Braingel]

Sometimes the site glitches and shows my updates went through when they didn’t, so just in case it didn’t, I expanded:

I believe things like astrology actually tend be more Se than Ni, even. They are fixed archetypes that have little expand-ability. Now natal chart astrology with the full houses and all of this is a little more Ni ish, with trying to find the main theme of the chart and forecast the future and potential from. Whereas something like aromatherapy that would surely deem as sensoric, is far more intuitive— trying to emerge hidden possibilities with the oils with little known, trying configure their working. I mean the study of, rather than the direct appliance, though. It is far more having look at the roots and developments and noticing time themes with why someone is improving and if why they work and what is possible… A willingness to dynamically explore and be open they may work at specific times.

[Braingel]

Indeed, since a while now I am trying to reconcile with the idea that we are more our Super-ego than our Ego. That the Ego block is at the service of the Superego block and not the other way around. This idea is indeed counter-intuitive (no pun intended) but it's part of the core socionics theory if you read Aushra work. Incidentally the social mission block in Model G and the idea of social mission is also pointing to that phenomenon. The Ego solutionize with its strong functions issues encountered in the superego domains. In other word all types identify more with their superego than with our Ego. Btw, some have associate this block esp the Role function to the Jung complex of the "persona", I think it's a huge mistake and it is misleading.

So it is not surprising to see sensory types involved in "intuitive" related domains (and vice-versa), I would even say that it is almost expected.

Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree, and most spiritual figures are Ni super egos— preachers, new agers, even some zen Buddhists are SXI’s and XSI’s..

I have had a huge interest in some “sensory” matters like aromatherapy and this sort.. Beading, I even considered brcoming an ASMRartist That doesn’t make me a sensor, at least in beebe it would not class this way (as in, at least his model catches it, not at least as in I am basing my ideas on beebe).

[godslave]

Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree, and most spiritual figures are Ni super egos— preachers, new agers, even some zen Buddhists are SXI’s and XSI’s..

I have had a huge interest in some “sensory” matters like aromatherapy and this sort.. Beading, I even considered brcoming an ASMRartist That doesn’t make me a sensor, at least in beebe it would not class this way (as in, at least his model catches it, not at least as in I am basing my ideas on beebe).

That was your post number 5000 ! Quoted for posterity ! Congratulation ! (I have a feeling of déjà-vu !)


Edit : I quoted the wrong post !

[Braingel]

This may also go into my role/hidden agenda (varying by which system you use), but when I was like 16, I really, really wanted to become a naturopathic doctor. Varying by definitions, this is a very Ni/Ne essence focus, with the root cause of the ails, perhaps Ni more with the dynamics that encompass it all.. And I have read tons of alternative health stuff, mostly of things like essential oils and CBD. That is probably from in some models, an Si super ego placement (in scs, Si hidden agenda super ID fantasy, but this system differs from sss I believe, I don’t know about sss).

If I am really honest, other than maybe the Buddha, almost all famous spiritual figures are sensors. The Buddha was an EII, he had a TiSe super ego.. Jesus was an ESI in my view (some people would say you can’t type them, because they are too sanctimonious). Louise Hay seems IEI, but I never looked into her, but Si role befits.

Then I am going to be becoming a certified yoga teacher.. Almkst all my interests are Si and they are informed through a lead on Ni.

When I was 18, I also wanted be a death doula and birth one, helping people with transitions, and I hood be about phlebotomy and hypnotizing people and using aromatherapy to quell anxious people with this.

[Dianacatriona]

Everyone is an IEI deep down.

[Dianacatriona]

My diagram for intertype relations:

Dual

Semi-dual/ Super-ego

Illusionary/ Mirror

Identical/ Look-a-like

Contrary/ Kindred

Activity/ Conflict

Benefit/ Benefit

Supervision/ Supervision

Quasi-identical

[nifl]

My diagram for intertype relations:

Dual

Semi-dual/ Super-ego

Illusionary/ Mirror

Identical/ Look-a-like

Contrary/ Kindred

Activity/ Conflict

Benefit/ Benefit

Supervision/ Supervision

Quasi-identical

What's the meaning? Semi-dual is e.g. not as close to super-ego as dual, activator, conflictor, look-a-like and kindred.

[Distance]

There is an assumption that I've seen in typology community here and there that consist of believing that when S types use intuition it always contains sensory references whereas when N types use intuition it is always abscrat. I think this is not true at all and I defy anyone to prove me wrong. I think this assumption comes from Keirsey and MBTI, I've seen Ben Vaserlan talking about transcontextual ideation as the trademark of intuitive Ne thinking in which what is put in perspective are abstract ideas that don't have any sensory component.

I don't think that transcontextual thinking is exclusive to intuitive types but rather the sign of functions with high dimensionality esp 4D functions. To me these kind of declarations are like coming out of the blue without any substantial argument to demonstrate them. Beside, all intuitive types can't possibly have the same intuitive thinking style, that doesn't make sense. It's a matter of communication, if you are too abstract you can't make yourself understood by anyone no matter who you are talking to. Words have meaning for a reason.

It is like a man clad in XY chromosomes, but also have estrogen like a woman's lower testosterone, and what you hear is more masculine, but there is a softer side and nurturing side in XY also.

He wouldn't get Mr. Mom of the year award but he can relate to the other side and work it. Nothing fancy in the empathy diplomatic nurturing side.

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As i think, if you notice the language is linear: 1 to 2 to 3 and it means 6, and 6 spells this phenomena in an abstraction. 6 + x = n means that too stepping in a number line.

You have static fixed points of abstractions that build in a hierarchy.

If you take groups of datum in a visual way, you are outside the standing number line and note the pattern of something similar like a Venn diagram.

Hence the minds eye or seeing something not there in optics.

Thoughts?

[Dianacatriona]

What's the meaning? Semi-dual is e.g. not as close to super-ego as dual, activator, conflictor, look-a-like and kindred.

Let me see if I can explain, not usually one to explain and I legit have some brain dysfunction at the moment.

It's not really an order..I actually wanted to type it sideways..

I think all intertype relations can be excellent, depending on context. I think different types of people benefit from different intertype relations.

However, let's say the order is dual down to quasi..but in some cases it may work the opposite way

After duals, I think that semi-duals have the best chance of long-term relationship potential, they can also make quite a big impression on each other even in brief relations/ negative relations. I also think super-ego couples can create a big impression on each other and in certain situations have good long term success.

I think illusionary couples do alright, and mirrors seem ok if both people are driven and sociable.

Identicals and look-a-likes provide a lot of support.

I put contrary/ kindred in the middle because I think contrary can be really fun, particularly for friendship. Kindred too, and I think there will also be some good long term kindred couples out there, however I'm quite curious as to what the particular appeal is.

I think you've got to be a certain type of person to deal with activity/ conflict.

I think benefit can work ok for young couples.

Supervision seems to be relatively common in marriages, at least in the older generations.

Quasi-identical- probably only ok for flings, but interestingly you see some best friends of this ITR.


You could also read it from the middle-outwards, with contrary/ kindred as best (for chemistry?)...

[godslave]

It is like a man clad in XY chromosomes, but also have estrogen like a woman's lower testosterone, and what you hear is more masculine, but there is a softer side and nurturing side in XY also.

He wouldn't get Mr. Mom of the year award but he can relate to the other side and work it. Nothing fancy in the empathy diplomatic nurturing side.

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Indeed true. I every man there is a woman and in every woman a man (Anima/Animus etc..).

As i think, if you notice the language is linear: 1 to 2 to 3 and it means 6, and 6 spells this phenomena in an abstraction. 6 + x = n means that too stepping in a number line.

You have static fixed points of abstractions that build in a hierarchy.

If you take groups of datum in a visual way, you are outside the standing number line and note the pattern of something similar like a Venn diagram.

Hence the minds eye or seeing something not there in optics.

Thoughts?

I have some difficulties to differentiate what is rhetorical from what is addressed to me in this post. It seems like you are talking Ti here.

Indeed, keep what is necessary and cut the rest. That's proper analysis when you find yourself like I do in a cacophony of interpretations and point of views. You just zoom out to have a general view, see what is in place and what is not and then clean up the mess...

[Distance]

Indeed true. I every man there is a woman and in every woman a man (Anima/Animus etc..).

I have some difficulties to differentiate what is rhetorical from what is addressed to me in this post. It seems like you are talking Ti here.

Indeed, keep what is necessary and cut the rest. That's proper analysis when you find yourself like I do in a cacophony of interpretations and point of views. You just zoom out to have a general view, see what is in place and what is not and then clean up the mess...

Under the red is S & N roads in an illustration. Venn or other. Serial builds.

I was wondering how you would illustrate S or N.

[Still Alive]

It might be that the concept of universities and seeking knowledge is a concept invented by IEI, who have "to understand" as hidden agenda. It might be that Ni base types are by far the most ideological and prone to religious fanatism. It might be that our fossil-fueled society benefits one type extremly and that our liberal world is pushed through this. It might be that AIPAC is an organization lead by IEI

https://youtu.be/rLL8s7H9LwA?si=LuBWf9CSoYaIDcKx

I find it kinda weird to think about it like this. I don't really hate particular groups. I have always been more of an observer of the world and ultimatively think we can barely control our cognition. It's just a weird intuitive impression that I get. It might be that jewish people are overwhelmingly IEI. Everyone needs to understand that I find this overrepresentation of one type in the highest echolons of society extremly concerning, like collapse is really an inevitabillity at this point.

[CosmicCat]

Leader-Follower = Supervisor-Supervisee.
Teacher-Student = Benefactor-Beneficiary.

[godslave]

Under the red is S & N roads in an illustration. Venn or other. Serial builds.

I was wondering how you would illustrate S or N.

So what did you think about it ?

[Distance]

I have a blank past in the memory department, like trouble recalling first person events, like looking at it from a 3rd person pov. if i can. Poor autobiographical memory.

I was looking at the Sol type thread of Alive ( Nov. 2023) and it seems like an eternity of time has past.

When family brings up the past: "Oh, Distance, when you were a teen, this happened and you did that and i felt this way, you were always like a son to me!"

ESI aunt here. I think this is Si playing out in her, and i have trouble connecting anything to that, i can see parts of it , but emotively i get nothing out of it. I can be poetic and frame a time stamp to it, like an overall arching theme, but the first person experience is bland on recall. I almost never go backwards on my own.

Not sure if type related.

[Distance]

So what did you think about it ?

I like the infinity symbol.

[Distance]

I have a blank past in the memory department, like trouble recalling first person events, like looking at it from a 3rd person pov. if i can. Poor autobiographical memory.

I was looking at the Sol type thread of Alive ( Nov. 2023) and it seems like an eternity of time has past.

When family brings up the past: "Oh, Distance, when you were a teen, this happened and you did that and i felt this way, you were always like a son to me!"

ESI aunt here. I think this is Si playing out in her, and i have trouble connecting anything to that, i can see parts of it , but emotively i get nothing out of it. I can be poetic and frame a time stamp to it, like an overall arching theme, but the first person experience is bland on recall. I almost never go backwards on my own.

Not sure if type related.

I stand in wonderment in how everyone derives anything from the past recall. As a matter of fact, dear diary.

I see it happen and i don't relate, hence the wonderment.

If i stroll down memory lane, it is a series of vague images of events, where people did x and felt y and it led to z, and it is gone and they will be gone, or are gone in the scene of this world, and it vibed the structure and the people, it was important and they lived their lives. How sad existentially. They were ignorant, like we all are, and fought the fine fight.

It is an interesting mire to tread in, but sort of painful.

That is my stroll in memory lane.

[godslave]

I have a blank past in the memory department, like trouble recalling first person events, like looking at it from a 3rd person pov. if i can. Poor autobiographical memory.

I was looking at the Sol type thread of Alive ( Nov. 2013) and it seems like an eternity of time has past.

When family brings up the past: "Oh, Distance, when you were a teen, this happened and you did that and i felt this way, you were always like a son to me!"

ESI aunt here. I think this is Si playing out in her, and i have trouble connecting anything to that, i can see parts of it , but emotively i get nothing out of it. I can be poetic and frame a time stamp to it, like an overall arching theme, but the first person experience is bland on recall. I almost never go backwards on my own.

Not sure if type related.

I have a similar issue but I think it's due to trauma as far as I'm concerned. I talked about it here.

[Dianacatriona]

ESE-si is my love-hate type, the type of my mum. The people I have clashed with most are LSE-si and ESE-si. LSE-si was male, and ESE-si was female. I have also met an LSE-si male who I thought was 'one of the nicest guys I've met'

[CosmicCat]

Serious types: "In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun."



ILI is dead to me.

[Distance]

I feel like i'm tied to you all.

What i read is what i give.

Read: wants.

All: everyone.

[Robin Gosens]

I've created this thread a longer while ago.

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

I closed it though because I didn't want the user "Sol" to spam unrelated messages in it. I think beta NF make up almost all public figures.

There’s a guy on the forum named Petter who I hope you never type IEI.

[Distance]

There’s a guy on the forum named Petter who I hope you never type IEI.

Sorry, don't get your hopes up.

Expect the worse, means less disappointment.

[Adam Strange]

Sorry, don't get your hopes up.

Expect the worse, means less disappointment.

To keep your disposition shiny, keep your expectations tiny.

[Distance]

To keep your disposition shiny, keep your expectations tiny.

Positivism vs negativism.

What i can lose, what you can gain.

[anotherperson]

i think SLIs have a higher propensity to mistype in socionics types/interviews than the other types because their natural inclination to solve daily problems while not inventing new goals leads them to have more spare time to dip into other functions/dichotomies

like if you had an SLI who liked to read philosophy in their spare time, they might mistype as intuitive because they have an 'unspecial' attitude about their ego block (since that would be the point to begin with)

[Distance]

Te is tied to money, or tantamount to money, in that it is the only thing that can interface moving reality.

[Distance]

Te is tied to money, or tantamount to money, in that it is the only thing that can interface moving reality.

Like throwing snowballs at the avalanche landslide to stop it, the snow ball = Te.