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    Quote Originally Posted by Sithis View Post
    do not eat cloves or nutmeg by the cupful.
    breaking the spice rack at 15 in the middle of the night to explore with some nutmeg. never did get around to trying it and something tells me this is probably a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Cthulhu oil was good, but nothing else I've been taking so far has any obvious effect to me. Maybe I have less chest pain, but that is hard to quantify and associate with any one thing.

    I found out yesterday that I have a genotype that affects the balance of Omega-3 and Omega-6 conversion, and a genotype that makes me more likely to be Vitamin D deficient. But seeing as I'm taking Cod Liver Oil and Vitamin D+K pills already, that isn't an issue.
    What kind of chest pains are you affected by? I have chest pains caused by costochondritis, and this helps me a lot:

    www.backpod.co.nz

    Last year I was suffering from chest pains by different causes, and I was turned inside out by medical specialist. My own family doctor attributed my problems to psychological issues, but then I more or less accidentally discovered the mist likely cause: esophageal spasm. Its acute symptoms can be confused for a heart attack, but it is not something the average doctor considers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    What kind of chest pains are you affected by? I have chest pains caused by costochondritis, and this helps me a lot:

    www.backpod.co.nz

    Last year I was suffering from chest pains by different causes, and I was turned inside out by medical specialist. My own family doctor attributed my problems to psychological issues, but then I more or less accidentally discovered the mist likely cause: esophageal spasm. Its acute symptoms can be confused for a heart attack, but it is not something the average doctor considers.
    My doctor says it is anxiety, but I thought it was something to do with my heart and/or high blood pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    My doctor says it is anxiety, but I thought it was something to do with my heart and/or high blood pressure.
    Sounds like the story of my life in the past year. Many doctors all too easily attribute somatic problems to psychological causes exclusively. Have you been examined for heart related issues? Over here in Holland they do check you out to rule out conditions of the heart. It is also possible that it is a physical problem made worse or brought to the surface by psychological discomfort. Your issues do not have to be either/or, but can also be both in interaction.

    If you have been tested for heart problems, but not for other issues, and your problems persist, it is time to ask critical questions about the causes already mentioned (Tietze/costochondritis or esophageal spasm). Another syndrome with symptoms that can be mistaken for a heart attack, is pains originating in the intercostal muscles. Some of this you can test yourself by pressing with a decent amount of pressure along the ribs or in between. Best if you let someone else do it, but not too hard, because if one presses real hard, it will hurt anyway ;-)
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    If there's one thing that I think consistently makes me feel like shit, it's probably gut & anxiety related.

    People with bad diets and little exercise honestly seem healthier than me at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Sounds like the story of my life in the past year. Many doctors all too easily attribute somatic problems to psychological causes exclusively. Have you been examined for heart related issues? Over here in Holland they do check you out to rule out conditions of the heart. It is also possible that it is a physical problem made worse or brought to the surface by psychological discomfort. Your issues do not have to be either/or, but can also be both in interaction.

    If you have been tested for heart problems, but not for other issues, and your problems persist, it is time to ask critical questions about the causes already mentioned (Tietze/costochondritis or esophageal spasm). Another syndrome with symptoms that can be mistaken for a heart attack, is pains originating in the intercostal muscles. Some of this you can test yourself by pressing with a decent amount of pressure along the ribs or in between. Best if you let someone else do it, but not too hard, because if one presses real hard, it will hurt anyway ;-)
    I did have a cardiogram (or whatever the machine is called) which only established that I have "first-degree heart block" but apparently this is nothing serious and does not need to be treated. I also had my Blood tested for Hepatitis at some point - I cannot remember if was due to this specific issue, and they were probably also testing for low iron levels and similar deficiencies.

    Yes, my doctor told me that as the pain stopped (?) when I held my chest, then it probably was not a heart issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    I did have a cardiogram (or whatever the machine is called) which only established that I have "first-degree heart block" but apparently this is nothing serious and does not need to be treated. I also had my Blood tested for Hepatitis at some point - I cannot remember if was due to this specific issue, and they were probably also testing for low iron levels and similar deficiencies.

    Yes, my doctor told me that as the pain stopped (?) when I held my chest, then it probably was not a heart issue.
    Anxiety can feel like a heart attack.

    I had a PTSD attack a couple years ago and I thought I was having a heart attack. I was surprised when I was still alive after 90 seconds. I mean, if your heart stops or your aorta splits open, you really don't stay conscious for very long.

    I took three aspirins and laid down to reduce the strain on my heart, and thought about what had caused the PTSD attack. My conclusion was very enlightening.

    P.S.
    After my wife left me, I was having heart problems. (Lol. If my dance instructor had left me, I might have had foot problems.) I had a heart stress test done which showed only that I have a 5% or so increased chance of dying from some heart problems. Not enough to worry about, especially considering the longevity of my family members (immigrant grandfather excepted). I made up for that 5% by not buttering my toast and moved on.

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    I drink around 10-12 cups of tea and coffee every day, which may be an issue, but I don’t think I’ve discussed it with a doctor. I suppose seeing as they frequently test my blood pressure, they would see it as a distinct issue to chest pain.

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    Dude, if you drink that much tea/coffee then it's probably affecting how much vitamin C, B and even D you are absorbing. It can cause low iron too which could worsen your anxiety symptoms. If you're on epilepsy meds, make sure you're taking supplements based on the specific type (some will leech vit D so you can afford to take a higher dose than other people. Some require a vitamin B supplement). Sorry if you know this already. I'm just very aware of how the NHS is on info sometimes (and the "healthy" levels they compare against are set too low - lower than other countries). Also been on many epilepsy meds and they often need reminding to check blood levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    I drink around 10-12 cups of tea and coffee every day, which may be an issue, but I don’t think I’ve discussed it with a doctor. I suppose seeing as they frequently test my blood pressure, they would see it as a distinct issue to chest pain.
    What... the...fuck.. here I thought my 3 smol cups of coffee throughout the day was too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    I drink around 10-12 cups of tea and coffee every day
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    Top ways to improve health:

    1. Good diet
    2. Exercise
    3. Balanced vitamins and minerals:

    a. Vitamin D3
    b. Magnesium
    c. Fish Oil

    Vitamin D3 helps you absorb calcium thus helps your bones. It also helps with your immune system to fight off viral and bacterial infections

    Magnesium helps you absorb Vitamin D3 in the gut and regulates your D3 levels. Thus, magnesium will boost D3 if low. In ADDITION, If you're worried about TOO MUCH D3, your magnesium keeps it IN CHECK.

    Magnesium also alleviates any agitation, emotional sensitivity, and stabilizes mood. Most American diets are deficient in magnesium so supplementing is very helpful.

    Fish oil is great for overall inflammation. Less inflammation, less depression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onfireee View Post
    Top ways to improve health:

    1. Good diet
    2. Exercise
    3. Balanced vitamins and minerals:

    a. Vitamin D3
    b. Magnesium
    c. Fish Oil

    Vitamin D3 helps you absorb calcium thus helps your bones. It also helps with your immune system to fight off viral and bacterial infections

    Magnesium helps you absorb Vitamin D3 in the gut and regulates your D3 levels. Thus, magnesium will boost D3 if low. In ADDITION, If you're worried about TOO MUCH D3, your magnesium keeps it IN CHECK.

    Magnesium also alleviates any agitation, emotional sensitivity, and stabilizes mood. Most American diets are deficient in magnesium so supplementing is very helpful.

    Fish oil is great for overall inflammation. Less inflammation, less depression.
    I think I'm doing pretty good on my supplements game but have become curious lately about magnesium, so this is good to know. Do you recommend a certain brand?

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    One time I was taking magnesium and when I had my blood drawn the doctor said I had too much magnesium lol. He said too much makes you weak.

    I'm glad I stumbled across this post again though because I feel like I'm lacking vitamins myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    One time I was taking magnesium and when I had my blood drawn the doctor said I had too much magnesium lol. He said too much makes you weak.

    I'm glad I stumbled across this post again though because I feel like I'm lacking vitamins myself.
    Drink about 2 liters of water spread throughout the day, not all at once. Sleep 7-8 hours daily (make it a routine). For mental health sleep is one of the best things you can do. Make sure you sunbathe if you have the opportunity. Best time is in the afternoon, don't get burned. Most food is vitamin D fortified, but you still need sunlight (antidepressant). This is as easy as doing something outside in the sun, preferably something that covers the exercise part. Strict exercise is always boring, find a sport you enjoy = better option. Eat varied meals with plenty of vegetables, fruit, carbs and protein. <== you should be fine without supplements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
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    I used to drink that amount, with the addition of 2 spoons of sugar (12 grams) added to each cup of coffee. Since I drink lattés, you also need to add the 6 grams of lactose, and the 4 grams of fat. About three years ago I already switched to 0% fat milk, and since three months I add lactase to my milk so all the lactose is converted to glucose and galactose, which makes the milk sweeter, but not higher in calories. I also add some artificial sweetener, but since this does not produce the right kind of sweetness, I still add 1/2 teaspoon (3 grams) of plain sugar. Together with other measures, such as freezing my lunch meats and cheese to avoid snacking, I have lost 8kg since last July.

    I was also reducing the number of cups per day, but then the covid crisis started, I was forced into mandatory vacation and gained 3kg again.

    ETA: speaking of mandatory vacations: I have been drinking wine and eating Mediterranean snacks in vacation-sized amounts lately, and apart from the weight gain, I also start to feel worse physically again. I have a sort of love/hate relationship with alcohol and drugs: I like to use it a bit, but when taken in too large quantities (which is still a lot less than lots of other people) over an extended period (usually a matter of days), these start working against me. This is probably why I never became an alcoholic or drug addict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    I think I'm doing pretty good on my supplements game but have become curious lately about magnesium, so this is good to know. Do you recommend a certain brand?
    Having 400+mg of Mg as a single dose causes a laxative effect in many people. Taking the dose two times per day virtually eliminates the laxative effect. Just as you do not consume all of your water or food for the day at one time, you should not consume all of your Magnesium for the day at one time. Excessive food, water, Magnesium, etc. is too hard on the gut.

    Controversy as to which form of Magnesium is best., but here are some important points:

    --Liquid form: Magnesium Chloride has good bioavailability and low laxative effect. Can also be used topically on sore muscles
    --Pill form: Magnesium Citrate seems pretty good
    --Magnesium Oxide - consensus = concerns with low bio-availability
    --Watch out for calcium - Be careful that the suplement does not contain Calcium (most people need to reduce Ca intake)

    Supporting evidence:

    https://vitamindwiki.com/Vitamin+D+and+Magnesium

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Drink about 2 liters of water spread throughout the day, not all at once. Sleep 7-8 hours daily (make it a routine). For mental health sleep is one of the best things you can do. Make sure you sunbathe if you have the opportunity. Best time is in the afternoon, don't get burned. Most food is vitamin D fortified, but you still need sunlight (antidepressant). This is as easy as doing something outside in the sun, preferably something that covers the exercise part. Strict exercise is always boring, find a sport you enjoy = better option. Eat varied meals with plenty of vegetables, fruit, carbs and protein. <== you should be fine without supplements.

    IF IEE maintaining this will not be possible, so just find a Si dom friend or something who can point out when you are overexerting yourself and drag you along into such a routine. better yet, find Si dom bf and get massage/sex ).
    LOL at the last sentence. I do greatly enjoy massages. I wore sunblock today for the first time in I don’t know how long. I have very fair, freckly skin in a high skin cancer zone so it’s important. I smell like sunblock, but whatever. Yeah I do over exert myself sometimes and end up injuring myself lol. Strict exercise is boring as hell, I find bike riding and hiking to be the most enjoyable, though if without company hiking can get boring. Bike riding doesn’t though cause I’m always blasting music and sometimes I dance on my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onfireee View Post
    Having 400+mg of Mg as a single dose causes a laxative effect in many people. Taking the dose two times per day virtually eliminates the laxative effect. Just as you do not consume all of your water or food for the day at one time, you should not consume all of your Magnesium for the day at one time. Excessive food, water, Magnesium, etc. is too hard on the gut.

    Controversy as to which form of Magnesium is best., but here are some important points:

    --Liquid form: Magnesium Chloride has good bioavailability and low laxative effect. Can also be used topically on sore muscles
    --Pill form: Magnesium Citrate seems pretty good
    --Magnesium Oxide - consensus = concerns with low bio-availability
    --Watch out for calcium - Be careful that the suplement does not contain Calcium (most people need to reduce Ca intake)

    Supporting evidence:

    https://vitamindwiki.com/Vitamin+D+and+Magnesium

    Hey thanks for the thorough reply! This is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    Hey thanks for the thorough reply! This is great.
    Like @thegreenfaerie mentioned with “weakness”, I and others I know have had heart palpitations and difficulty breathing with too much magnesium. I think one person I knew had a blackout. So be careful seriously lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Like @thegreenfaerie mentioned with “weakness”, I and others I know have had heart palpitations and difficulty breathing with too much magnesium. I think one person I knew had a blackout. So be careful seriously lol.
    Good to know. I'll be careful.

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