ESI/LIE Conversations

[Still Alive]

well it's Fi as suggestive function, they are very suggestible by love. it's very painful for these types to lose a friend or a partner (I mean it hurts everyone obviously, but for these types it seems more painful). I've met quite a few LxE types that were in horrible relationships (conflict, superego etc.) and yet they stay with their partner for decades.

[Adam Strange]

OK, this isn’t about ESI-LIE conversations, but it could conceivably bear on them.

I'm working with computers at my company, but you meet a lot of people who share stories and they are often very similar, like: hard working guy, wife left him after 10-15 years of marriage, he jumped in front of a train. the way people describe them often makes me think that they were EXTJ types.

When my (now) ex-wife left me, I was in a state of shock. I didn’t see it coming and really could not believe it was happening. She moved out and took our son with her.
About four or five days later this guy shows up at the front door and says he’s from my son’s school and could he come in? I said, Sure. It turns out my son mentioned the fact that he and his mother left, and the guy was actually from city services suicide watch or some crazy thing. I told him I was depressed but not suicidal. I don’t know why he would think I would be suicidal.
Ann Arbor is a very rich, liberal city. Personally, I think they go overboard in some areas.

Probably because they realized they did not know what they lived for other than being financial providers... Sad, really.

Well, duh.

well it's Fi as suggestive function, they are very suggestible by love. it's very painful for these types to lose a friend or a partner (I mean it hurts everyone obviously, but for these types it seems more painful). I've met quite a few LxE types that were in horrible relationships (conflict, superego etc.) and yet they stay with their partner for decades.

Interesting that you say that LxE types stay in horrible relationships. I, of course, married my Supervisor, which is generally considered to be a low 12 out of 16 on the Socionics Compatibility Scale, but I was pretty happy. Even after my ex-wife moved out, I tried to get her back. Eventually, I realized that she wasn’t coming back and I divorced her. Maybe I have a high tolerance for bullshit, IDK.
I had a Mirage GF within about six months, and while she wasn’t perfect, she was an improvement over the ex in many, many ways. So much so that when I told my ex that I was dating again and she said, “Why not date me?”, I mean, I could not believe it. After breaking our relationship, she wants to fuck me over again?
She’s gonna be single and alone for the rest of her life.

[Rebelondeck]

.......Interesting that you say that LxE types stay in horrible relationships. I, of course, married my Supervisor, which is generally considered to be a low 12 out of 16 on the Socionics Compatibility Scale, but I was pretty happy......

Of the factors that contribute to content, long-term marriages, type doesn't seem to be all that significant. Type certainly helps with the understanding of partnering (especially for managers who have to put project teams together) but beyond that, I wouldn't stake future success of a marriage on it. Most people acquire so much baggage as they go through life that type effects are usually rendered insignificant. If your ISTp wife caught you by surprise, then expect no less from ISFjs because they can be even less communicative. I've seen some duals divorce (some of those regretting it, but not all) and versions of all other combinations that have lasted. Other needs usually overshadow type. For example, a dual relationship where one partner is never home, has adopted another belief system, or has become an abuser.........

a.k.a. I/O