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    Default I'm not typing myself anymore.

    Typing is applicable to most in human bodies, but not all. It depends on your level of spiritual maturity ~ if you are of a human soul as most or a spirit etc., if you are living under angelic laws of "karma" as most, and the like.

    For a season there I tried hard getting "typed" per the old ways but I realized since it is still ultimately inapplicable for me and I understand the dynamics. I'm centered. Perhaps some of my old articles on the forum will shed light on the subject for the inquisitive in search of more truth.

    Conventionally maybe 1 label could apply a little on a shallow level than a model level but not really have true significance on this general topic of partial perspectives.

    I do also hold to the philosophy that some humans are incarnate angels or ancient souls cycling off the reincarnation wheel on this planet or other beings etc. So keep an open mind a bit when trying to type and if it just seems to elude you, you might be an incarnate human in a special minority for a reason.

    Happy typing.
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    Its true i see ur the most special woman on the planet and nobody is like you. You must be sent by the gods to make us mortals relinquish the false prophets of socionics. Gulenko the antichrist shall hereby be banished from our lands.

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    "I'm not like the other girls" - every girl ever

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    Even angels and demons have types.

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    You seemed Creative subtype in video so that's probably why you have difficulties finding your type.
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    Yeah. It is much better to find a balance in life than a type seriously.

    I kind of see you tentatively as an ILI but your circumstances are not very good. I hope it gets better.
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    you did it not good
    your type is SEE

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    It's easier to type people that you know from a distance that renders them one dimensional because they then match predetermined categories more fluidly. I can see why those people would seem like lesser beings or immature, but only if a person were inclined to push things off themselves in the process of placing themselves above, in general.

    That said, you're entitled to not have a type, and nobody really does anyway.

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    I think that the sixteenth types describe most people, but not all. Just as you can have a physical description of human beings that includes most of humanity, there will always be those people with two heads who are exceptions.

    I feel that way about my own “type” on most days.

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    Yup, this is my dual. I can smell it.

    fwiw I agree with the ancient souls
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Yup, this is my dual. I can smell it.

    fwiw I agree with the ancient souls
    ”ancient souls” seems kind of anti-Te to me, but we really need @Capitalist Pig to weigh in on this.

    Just sayin’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    ”ancient souls” seems kind of anti-Te to me, but we really need @Capitalist Pig to weigh in on this.

    Just sayin’.
    Hmm, I would agree. But on the other hand, a lot of my theories are anti-my-type too and here we are. Also I haven’t seen piggy around for a second, hope he’s doin’ alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Hmm, I would agree. But on the other hand, a lot of my theories are anti-my-type too and here we are. Also I haven’t seen piggy around for a second, hope he’s doin’ alright.
    He was here yesterday, but yeah, I hope he’s OK. He seems to be living his life one step away from disaster, all the time.

    They say that when your two strongest functions (the adults) aren’t working for you, you let the kids (the two weakest functions) drive the car. You turn into an ineffectual dual. Usually with disastrous results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Yup, this is my dual. I can smell it.

    fwiw I agree with the ancient souls
    Herpderp have same opinion as op must be soulmates with op. Thats what 1d Ti looks like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Herpderp have same opinion as op must be soulmates with op. Thats what 1d Ti looks like
    Why must you bully me at every turn #9?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Why must you bully me at every turn #9?
    Because deep inside you like it you little victim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    Because deep inside you like it you little victim
    I don't see Victim here. I see e3 "anything to play to the crowds' attention".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    Because deep inside you like it you little victim
    It’s true, I have an underlying need to be abused. Everyone here is allowed to slap me around like a rag doll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I don't see Victim here. I see e3 "anything to play to the crowds' attention".
    It could be multiple things. I don’t think anything really has just one meaning to it. But yeah, you have a good eye - I’m a performer.
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    Fresh meat!
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    Sorry for making another thread about me guys! Gosh I could just blush, I’m so embarrassed. (Not really >: ) )
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Why must you bully me at every turn #9?
    Cuz i was born that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Why must you bully me at every turn #9?
    And 8 wing

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    >IQ over 150

    why do I get the feeling that op is a gamma NT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    >IQ over 150

    why do I get the feeling that op is a gamma NT?
    Why do i get the feeling u believe any bullcrap that gets under ur nose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Why do i get the feeling u believe any bullcrap that gets under ur nose
    I don't care about his IQ, you didn't get my message at all. gamma NT types are very interested in IQ tests, because they mostly measure Ni and Te, meaning that they very often get high results and because of valued Se, they often share their scores and openly talk about it, even if no one asked them. I don't understand why you don't just ignore me considering that we clearly don't like each other. I find your passive agressive one-liners rather irritating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I don't care about his IQ, you didn't get my message at all. gamma NT types are very interested in IQ tests, because they mostly measure Ni and Te, meaning that they very often get high results and because of valued Se, they often share their scores and openly talk about it, even if no one asked them. I don't understand why you don't just ignore me considering that we clearly don't like each other. I find your passive agressive one-liners rather irritating.
    Gamma NT that care about IQ are no more than chrysalis.

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    If we all stop typing ourselves we can break the curse.
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    Why type yourself when you can just be Donald Trump?

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    Typology is something that you learn from and often outgrow. You will retain something of it and recall what was useful of it when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    It's easier to type people that you know from a distance that renders them one dimensional because they then match predetermined categories more fluidly. I can see why those people would seem like lesser beings or immature, but only if a person were inclined to push things off themselves in the process of placing themselves above, in general.

    That said, you're entitled to not have a type, and nobody really does anyway.
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    IRL communications with ILI should remove her doubts

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    I had lunch with Vess.

    She really does have an IQ over 150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I had lunch with Vess. She really does have an IQ over 150.
    new level of VI, now with IQ measure
    your opinion about her type is more interesting

    I'm sure in her SEE

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    It's not fair but people are going to box you in your entire life. Yes I think the types are about gross stereotypes but they are often true. IEIs are romantic and victimy, LIEs want to exploit you for money, SLE males are in prison- LSEs use SLE males as scapegoats to look more righteous etc. EIIs are moralistic and prudish to a fault, in an eyeball rolling way. ESEs ask you 'are you hungry?' too much after you've already eaten a feast. LSIs are Gunners/Archers/long-ranged DPS classes if super powers were real.

    But I think the ways you don't fit the type stereotypes are something u just have to constantly stick up for yourself your entire life. People are original & unique, but then again - they're also not. I think in a way this is better than just being blah blah types don't exist. /naive head in the clouds as you ride the "spiritual" wave with Phantom Esther Hicks in the sky.

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    Perhaps you are approaching socionics from the wrong angle. I'll explain to you from the point of view from which I see it fundamentally, and also how I conceive/apply it to myself and others, that perhaps is also the wrong angle, but there is little less I can do.

    Socionics cannot be a personality typology, simply because it would be ineffective compared to other frameworks in describing personality. Socionics cannot objectively describe by itself the core personality traits of a human being, although it can explain certain personal inclinations, that are in some cases almost irrelevant in the proper personality of someone. There are not 16 personalities, the human being is made up of quite a few variants, and many of them (among these, the personality itself) are already correctly understood by other psychological hypotheses to a degree higher than that which we could achieve using socionics in a behavioral way (or far worse, typing through stereotypes or wrongly associated characteristics).

    Try to use socionics as a categorization of the ways of processing information within an individual into a single, narrowed down information element, and after that as a framework in which you choose, observing the mental processes (information elements) that an individual uses to process, generate, and in general work with the information he receives (and not the personality itself of that individual), then, decide in which cognitive function you can place these processes within Model A to recreate the general picture of his sociotype. Forget about romantic styles, subtypes, temperaments, and so on, and stick with the base, the information elements, and Model A, and build from there. I hope it works for you. Furthermore, sociotype itself is unrelated to "souls" "angels" or whatever natural religion you are into, it is about describing, interpreting and categorizing factual mental processes that can be observable in human beings.
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    An IQ over 150? I know somebody who has an IQ ~170 who doesn't care about socionics either.


    guys...
    ...maybe we are all stupid...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliMeat View Post
    An IQ over 150? I know somebody who has an IQ ~170 who doesn't care about socionics either.


    guys...
    ...maybe we are all stupid...?
    Lol. Or maybe just be interested in whatever you want and don't worry about it hah. Some high IQ folks I've met have been dumber than average, simply because they lack wisdom. And the more focused they are on the number, the more their ego is tied into it, and ego is the biggest obstacle to gaining wisdom.

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    Socionics doesn’t measure intelligence/IQ. It doesn’t measure emotional maturity or intellectual maturity either. It’s cognition which sorts out how a person thinks, like a map to how a person reasons the way they do and the motivations behind it which is why it falls under the psychological purview.

    I mean if you’re leaving socionics for whatever reason, no one cares, just like no one cares why you got into it to begin with. All these theatrical Fe displays get really tiresome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliMeat View Post
    An IQ over 150? I know somebody who has an IQ ~170 who doesn't care about socionics either.


    guys...
    ...maybe we are all stupid...?
    @squark @Lolita


    I'm not 100% sure if what you two said was even directed at me, but I was being sarcastic.

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