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    I think nothing is so disgusting as planning your life until death. What if we didn't have to die? Of course that's science fiction, but so are most things before they happen. Even if you still die at 80, you're going to miss everything if you plan everything. If you got 20 old people and lined up their lifetimes, you'd reach back to Jesus. I'm sure you've seen 20 old people in a room together, though of course you can't actually line up people's lives. History as an idea was invented and first recorded at about 500 BC. If you plan your whole life, you're bound to miss at least 1/26th of it, if all the events you've ignored don't kill you first. Of course, you should plan events, plan your education, career moves, etc., but only based on reasonable information, which imaginary images of your hagiography at your funeral are not.

    Why would anyone base their lives around using outdated information to leave the prettiest corpse possible to begin with?

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    Why do people insist on working as a good way to fill up their time? They are NPCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Why do people insist on working as a good way to fill up their time? They are NPCs.
    HYLICS

    (I hope no one is actually a hylic.)

    Also, I'd argue work is good if it's good work. Don't be lazy but work smarter and not harder.

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    I've also learned you should always be brave and do the seemingly hardest thing out of your available options. I'm not saying to be foolhardy, but then if you've actually thought things through you're not being foolhardy, which seems like avoiding thinking about what you should be doing as opposed to cowardice being avoiding doing what you should be thinking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    I've also learned you should always be brave and do the seemingly hardest thing out of your available options.

    After everything, this I have learned to be the truth.
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ―Thucydides



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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Why do people insist on working as a good way to fill up their time? They are NPCs.
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    I don't think planning everything is natural or healthy. Short term goals are important, have as many of them as you want. But the only things we were meant to plan as human beings is our shelters, our hunts, and our reproduction. Grab life by the horns and let it kick you in the balls back and you'll both take each other in places you never expected.
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    A little bit of planning and then focus never hurt anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I don't think planning everything is natural or healthy. Short term goals are important, have as many of them as you want. But the only things we were meant to plan as human beings is our shelters, our hunts, and our reproduction. Grab life by the horns and let it kick you in the balls back and you'll both take each other in places you never expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
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    People who feel a need to plan everything probably have issues of control and/or fear. They want to be sure and prepared. There is a lack of trust in the natural flow of life events. I can't help but think of preppers as I write this.


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    This is my justification for not putting shit into my retirement funds. Who the hell knows what'll happen when I'm 70 anyway. If I make it that far.

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    I wanted to find out about additional uses for all the pecans I have bc I have so many pecan trees, and found some info on a survivalist board so joined lol. They're really funny. There are some interesting topics there, and I'll be reading some posts, forget where I am, and someone will make a comment in stride about society collapsing or the apocalypse or whatever it is they're worried about, and I laugh, and do a double-take . . . oh yeah, they really think the world is going to collapse on them and they have to be prepared.

    I don't at all think people should live their lives in fear. Constantly dreading tomorrow seems a bad way to go about things . . . ah "sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" as is said. Worrying about all these things does no good. But, I'm not against some planning for various unseens and unknowns. Because you don't know what's going to happen, it's imo a decent idea to have something set aside to cover whatever happens. I budget for car repairs, home repairs, etc and so on, so when something comes up (and something always comes up) I have the funds to cover it without having to scramble about. I'm not planning for stuff to break or whatever, and I'm not worried that it will. If everything remains running great, no problems that's cool, I'm happy, and there's one less thing to worry about, but if it does, then I'm alright to cover it too.

    The thing is. . . nothing lasts forever, you see someone stocking up on canned goods or doing this or that. . . and all those things have expiration dates, eventually they too need to be replaced, so trying to prepare for everything and plan everything leaves a person constantly playing catch-up, always putting out fires, and always living in dread of the day ahead. I wouldn't want to live like that.

    A final thought - I think maybe people don't trust themselves? They don't believe that they'll be okay, or they'll be able to adapt or figure something out. Maybe that's the source of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    This is my justification for not putting shit into my retirement funds. Who the hell knows what'll happen when I'm 70 anyway. If I make it that far.
    I’ve always said I don’t want to live past 40 (or 50 if I age well). I’ll already have lived my youth and there’s nothing exciting about getting old. You just get ugly and wrinkly and your brain and body deteriorate until you’re a vegetable. Nada!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I’ve always said I don’t want to live past 40 (or 50 if I age well). I’ll already have lived my youth and there’s nothing exciting about getting old. You just get ugly and wrinkly and your brain and body deteriorate until you’re a vegetable. Nada!
    Point Three, the Performer, is the child who lost hope that the Universe will provide and discovered that love, recognition, value and acceptance came to those who could achieve, who could “do”, and who could accomplish. Performance, however, also must be matched with an image of success. The Three is the core point of the “heart, or feeling, traid”.

    The passion is “deceit” and the corresponding fixation is “vanity”.

    Key issues for the Three include, but are not limited to the following:

    Deceit:
    The deceit is of one’s self through the unconscious adaptation to, and an identification with, a role that is deemed by the Three to be the epitome of success in a given situation.

    Image:
    Looking good is important. Image fits the context of a situation. The Three alters to fit the situation and may appear slippery and deceptive through image.

    Threes can be “used car salespersons” in whatever field–and there’s a part of me that loves to sell ideas and feel the approval and flow from the crowd as I respond to their interests using their language and experiences. It’s great!

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    Hate to do this to you, but, I have heard other EIE 3s say similar, on this forum. You will find once you hit 30 that number going up by another decade or more, depending on how you develop and what attachments you have formed by then (like a strong relationship or your own family). Better start taking better care of yourself now, if looks and health matter that much to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Hate to do this to you, but, I have heard other EIE 3s say similar, on this forum. You will find once you hit 30 that number going up by another decade or more, depending on how you develop and what attachments you have formed by then (like a strong relationship or your own family). Better start taking better care of yourself now, if looks and health matter that much to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post

    Keith Richards' survival is probably the most surprising of the lot of them.

    When I was a small child I thought thirty would be the magic number where life all made complete sense, I would know everything and I would finally be an adult making good decisions. Then I observed more 30 year olds still acting as children. I had to raise that number. Now the number is somewhere around, unbelievably old and dead (only kind of j/k-ing here).

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    You gotta plan everything or else you won't know if you're doing stuff right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Hate to do this to you, but, I have heard other EIE 3s say similar, on this forum. You will find once you hit 30 that number going up by another decade or more, depending on how you develop and what attachments you have formed by then (like a strong relationship or your own family). Better start taking better care of yourself now, if looks and health matter that much to you.
    Haha no problem, I already brought the beast up myself. You didn’t do anything. Ironically, this is a big worry of mine but taking care of myself is the thing I’m worst at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    This is my justification for not putting shit into my retirement funds. Who the hell knows what'll happen when I'm 70 anyway. If I make it that far.
    But, retirement is basically preparation for heaven! If you don't retire, you'll accidentally go to the other place!






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    Maybe try a religious forum? A Facebook group?

    I'm not even sure if I buy into the whole afterlife thing. It's just a path Im nudging with my toe. You could mock me for trying, if it helps heal some wound you have or something, but it wouldn't be as fun as battle with someone who wants to proselytize and argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Maybe try a religious forum? A Facebook group?

    I'm not even sure if I buy into the whole afterlife thing. It's just a path Im nudging with my toe. You could mock me for trying, if it helps heal some wound you have or something, but it wouldn't be as fun as battle with someone who wants to proselytize and argue.
    I was joking. Retirement has nothing to do with the afterlife, but it's portrayed the same and people seem to use it to avoid thinking about death. From now on, when in doubt I'm using [/s]

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    Well there's that old proverb 'We Plan, God Laughs' ... but I don't think that means we should stop planning entirely, because well we are not God, and it is kind of the human ego to make plans and follow a linear structure, it is how the ego operates. We can plan but we also need the wisdom to understand that chaos and disruption is natural and inevitable and so much of what we plan and say we want we don't, not really. Our conscious is saying we want this but our subconscious is saying 'we really want this' and often times they just fart each other out and cause distraction. But this distraction is beautiful- and it is what makes us 'human' and separates us from mere machines. It's also kinda like how everybody growing up had that naive childhood fantasy of their school being blown up- and if you didn't have that fantasy, you weren't very human and part of the reptilian shape shifters who want to control this planet. It doesn't mean you wanted anybody to hurt or die- but PLANNING ... is like that, eventually you just end up imploding and the plan fails anyway.

    It's like planning a diet and anally counting every calorie like a neurotic housewife. You do well for awhile doing it that way but eventually you crack and then end up shoving donuts in your mouth or you tell yourself you will never look up porn again, no - its bad and immoral and destroys society and even if it doesn't, real sex is better right anyway? Then two weeks later you are looking up porn until 5 am and wasting time... because you tried to plan all that crap in your head 'out of good intentions' but it didn't go anywhere. The trick is to live your life so much and so fully where it is impossible to plan, you literally don't have the time or desire to 'plan' anything- that is how you know you are getting closer to freedom. Then some stuff you plan comes true, some doesn't- but it doesn't matter so much because you are LIVING.



    Therapists will often tell you things like 'life is messy.' Or 'don't put a pretty ribbon on everything' basically, everything that's a variation of don't overly mentally structure your life like some weird nerdy therapist, like Mr Frond on Bob's Burgers? lol But just because life is messy- doesn't give you the right to spit on others. Unless they are into that of course.

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    i never rlly understood the idea of planning ur life-- like sure security is a cool thing to have, but uhhhhh, i figure id be fine either way i don't necessarily have an opinion on ppl who do it either unless i actually know them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    i never rlly understood the idea of planning ur life-- like sure security is a cool thing to have, but uhhhhh, i figure id be fine either way i don't necessarily have an opinion on ppl who do it either unless i actually know them
    The problem is it ruins your security. Who saw the Internet coming, or the nuclear bomb? If someone planned everything for decades, they'd end up delusional, which lowers your chances of survival quite a bit to say the least.

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    Here's what I have to say about that


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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    I think nothing is so disgusting as planning your life until death. What if we didn't have to die? Of course that's science fiction, but so are most things before they happen. Even if you still die at 80, you're going to miss everything if you plan everything. If you got 20 old people and lined up their lifetimes, you'd reach back to Jesus. I'm sure you've seen 20 old people in a room together, though of course you can't actually line up people's lives. History as an idea was invented and first recorded at about 500 BC. If you plan your whole life, you're bound to miss at least 1/26th of it, if all the events you've ignored don't kill you first. Of course, you should plan events, plan your education, career moves, etc., but only based on reasonable information, which imaginary images of your hagiography at your funeral are not.

    Why would anyone base their lives around using outdated information to leave the prettiest corpse possible to begin with?
    Who says ur gonna miss everything when u plan sth. What if ur plan is to experience everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Who says ur gonna miss everything when u plan sth. What if ur plan is to experience everything
    That's not an allowed plan because the time since the post-war era has been the most uneventful in history and if you even want so much as a single experience you're going to let the demons loose on the poor Baby Boomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    That's not an allowed plan because the time since the post-war era has been the most uneventful in history and if you even want so much as a single experience you're going to let the demons loose on the poor Baby Boomers.

    Derrida and Oprah's bunker in the Alps can't save them now.
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    Plans need to be flexible and responsive to new realities to be sane. Even we can change our minds. But as long as one remains responsive to those things, I prefer the presence of a plan and enjoy planning.

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    It depends on the motivation. Sometimes (often) you need to create a plan to maximize your chances of success or survival. As for your entire life in detail, yeah that might constitute insanity lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    I think nothing is so disgusting as planning your life until death. What if we didn't have to die?

    Ah, but what if you planned for your own inevitable death? Like, you already have your funereal planned. Mine involves a ton of booze and a roast of yours truly. Mourn not my death, celebrate the very fact I even existed and that my shift from this world to the next reminded you of the joyous fact that I knew you, and you knew me. Raise the parting glass, know that I go before you all to a better place and pray to the most high that you can join me in the embrace of heaven!

    As to not being able to die? Well, think long and hard on that one. Mortality, in any form, is a blessing. I have no shortage of terrible fates that can befall an "Immortal" that I can share with you if you so desire. Let's just say that "death" can be a profound and dare I say divine mercy...

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    I misread this as people who end their lives and I was gonna say I’m a future contestant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    As to not being able to die? Well, think long and hard on that one. Mortality, in any form, is a blessing. I have no shortage of terrible fates that can befall an "Immortal" that I can share with you if you so desire. Let's just say that "death" can be a profound and dare I say divine mercy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I misread this as people who end their lives and I was gonna say I’m a future contestant.
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    base Ni dream long plans. but those plans are easily changing
    people have expectations and hopes for times more than 5 years
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    I think nothing is so disgusting as planning your life until death. What if we didn't have to die? Of course that's science fiction, but so are most things before they happen. Even if you still die at 80, you're going to miss everything if you plan everything. If you got 20 old people and lined up their lifetimes, you'd reach back to Jesus. I'm sure you've seen 20 old people in a room together, though of course you can't actually line up people's lives. History as an idea was invented and first recorded at about 500 BC. If you plan your whole life, you're bound to miss at least 1/26th of it, if all the events you've ignored don't kill you first. Of course, you should plan events, plan your education, career moves, etc., but only based on reasonable information, which imaginary images of your hagiography at your funeral are not.

    Why would anyone base their lives around using outdated information to leave the prettiest corpse possible to begin with?
    What do you mean you miss everything when you plan your life. What if what you plan is to experience as much as possible? Somehow you came to the wrong conclusion that planning shit makes you miss out on everything. Youve probably made the wrong plans then. False premise, wrong conclusion.

    Where did u make that statistic up from that ur gonna miss 1/26th of your life or some shit lmao. Bruh make some better plans!

    It seems like youre debating yourself on this one more than anyone else, like youve projected your shitty plans on others and made it a rule

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