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    Any good resources for enneagram types commonly seen with certain Socionics types? I know I have seen such a chart for Socionics vs. MBTI. Iím also curious about tritypes and Socionics types
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    We’ve seen this a billion times but I’ll put my two cents in anyways

    This is super stereotypical btw

    IEI: 9, 4
    EIE: 3, 2, 6
    SLE: 7, 8, 3, 6
    LSI: 6, 1

    ESI: 6, 4, 9
    SEE: 3, 7, 6, 8
    LIE: 3, 8, 6
    ILI: 5

    EII: 6, 4, 9
    IEE: 7
    LSE: 8, 1
    SLI: 9, 6

    SEI: 9, 6, 2
    ESE: 2, 3, 6
    ILE: 7
    LII: 5, 1

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    ILE 7w6
    LII-Ne 5w4
    LII Ti 5w6
    SEI 9w8
    ESE 2w3

    LSI-Ti 6w5
    LSI-Se 6w7
    SLE 7w8
    IEI 9w1
    EIE 2w1

    SEE 3w2
    ESI 4w3
    LIE 8w7
    ILI 1w2

    SLI 1w9
    IEE 3w4
    LSE 8w9
    EII 4w5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    ILE 7w6
    LII-Ne 5w4
    LII Ti 5w6
    SEI 9w8
    ESE 2w3

    LSI-Ti 6w5
    LSI-Se 6w7
    SLE 7w8
    IEI 9w1
    EIE 2w1

    SEE 3w2
    ESI 4w3
    LIE 8w7
    ILI 1w2

    SLI 1w9
    IEE 3w4
    LSE 8w9
    EII 4w5
    How come Ti base is the only one where subtypes change wing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    How come Ti base is the only one where subtypes change wing?
    Cuz we have 16 socionics types and 18 enneagram wingtypes

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    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...m-Correlations


    Socionics/Enneagram Correlations

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    (C)orrelation - These types match up very well and I'd expect to see a person of one type as also the other.

    (P)ossible - While these types don't match up quite so well, I have no reason to believe that they couldn't exist.

    (U)nlikely - I see no reason why these types would exist. There's nothing about them that match up, but I couldn't make a strong case for why they wouldn't exist.

    (Q)uestionable - These type matchings don't make sense, and I seriously doubt that they could exist, but I'm reluctant to say they are impossible.

    (I)mpossible - These types wouldn't work. Core requirements are contradictory.


    1 One - Characterized by self-control and limitation of instinctual desires. Very strong super-ego (self-critical), and reliant on judgments of right and wrong. Angry about the external world need to control inner world.

    (C) ISFj, ISTj
    (P) INTj, INFj, ESTj, ENTj, ESFj, ENFj
    (U) ESTp
    (Q) ENTp, ISTp, INTp
    (I) ENFp, ESFp, INFp, ISFp

    2 Two - Characterized by desire to do for others, feel validated by others, and heightened awareness of others feelings. Ignores own desires, and internal feelings. Ashamed of internal world, and need love from the external world.

    (C) ESFj, ENFj
    (P) ENFp, ESFp, ISFp, ISFj
    (U) ESTj, INFj, INFp
    (Q) ISTp
    (I) ESTp, ENTp, ENTj, INTp, INTj, ISTj

    3 Three - Characterized by disassociation with one's feelings. Highly task-oriented and pragmatic. Desire to be the best. Must accomplish something to deserve love, and feel ashamed when they fail.

    (C) ENTj, ESTj, ENFj
    (P) ESFj, ESTp, ENTp
    (U) ESFp, ENFp, INTj, ISTj
    (Q) INTp, ISTp
    (I) ISFp, INFp, ISFj, INFj

    4 Four - Characterized by internal emotion and complexity. Adherence and connection to internal feelings. Ashamed of external world and external self, and need love from internal world.

    (C) INFp, INFj
    (P) ISFp, ENFp
    (U) ISFj, ENFj
    (Q) ESFj, ESFp, INTp
    (I) ESTp, ENTP, ESTj, ENTJ, ISTj, INTj, ISTp

    5 Five - Characterized by detached thought and analysis. Detached from emotions and limited instincts. Fear external world, and rely on internal understanding.

    (C) INTp, INTj
    (P) ENTp
    (U) ENTj, INFj, ISTj, ISTp
    (Q) INFp
    (I) ESTp, ESTj, ESFp, ESFj, ENFp, ENFj, ISFp, ISFj

    6 Six - Characterized by conflict of uncertainty and trust. Lack internal guide. Need for stability and something to guide them, and fear not having anything to trust.

    (C) ESFJ, ENFj, ENFp, ESFp
    (P) ISFj, INFj
    (U) ISFp, INFp, ENTp
    (Q) ESTp, ESTj, ENTj
    (I) INTj, ISTj, INTp, ISTp

    7 Seven - Characterized by a need to experience, and be involved in new things. Fear internal world, and rely on external involvement.

    (C) ENFp, ENTp, ESFp, ESTp
    (P) ESFj
    (U) ENFj, ENTj, ESTj
    (Q) ISFp
    (I) INTp, INFp, INFj, INTj, ISTj, ISFj, ISTp

    8 Eight - Characterized by head strong stubbornness and conflict. The need to be in control of things around them. Internally vulnerable, but closed off. Angry about internal world, and need to control external world.

    (C) ESTp, ENTj, ESTj
    (P) ISTj, ISFj, ESFp
    (U) ESFj, ENFj
    (Q) ISTp, ENTp
    (I) INFp, ISFp, INTj, INFj, INTp, ENFp

    9 Nine - Characterized by inertness and natural calm. The have a need for harmony and conflict free environment. Need to find some well being and psychological comfort, and are angered when it is disturbed.

    (C) ISTp, ISFp
    (P) INFj, INFp, INTp
    (U) INTj, ISTj, ISFj
    (Q) ESTj, ESFj, ENFp, ESFp
    (I) ENTj, ENFj, ENTp, ESTp

    Socionics => Enneagram


    ESFj

    (C) 2, 6
    (P) 1, 3, 7
    (U) 8
    (Q) 4, 9
    (I) 5

    INTj

    (C) 5
    (P) 1
    (U) 3, 9
    (Q)
    (I) 2, 4, 6, 7, 8

    ENTp

    (C) 7
    (P) 3, 5
    (U) 6
    (Q) 1, 8
    (I) 2, 4

    ISFp

    (C) 9
    (P) 2, 4
    (U) 6
    (Q) 7
    (I) 1, 3, 5, 8

    ENFj

    (C) 2, 3, 6
    (P) 1
    (U) 4, 7, 8
    (Q)
    (I) 5, 9

    ISTj

    (C) 1
    (P) 8
    (U) 3, 5, 9
    (Q) 2
    (I) 4, 6, 7

    ESTp

    (C) 7, 8
    (P) 3
    (U) 1
    (Q) 6
    (I) 2, 4, 5, 9

    INFp

    (C) 4
    (P) 9
    (U) 2, 6
    (Q) 5
    (I) 1, 3, 7, 8

    ENTj

    (C) 3, 8
    (P) 1
    (U) 5, 7
    (Q) 6
    (I) 2, 4

    ISFj

    (C) 1
    (P) 2, 6, 8
    (U) 9
    (Q) 4
    (I) 3, 5, 7

    ESFp

    (C) 6, 7
    (P) 2, 8
    (U) 3
    (Q) 4, 9
    (I) 1, 5

    INTp

    (C) 5
    (P) 9
    (U)
    (Q) 1, 3, 4
    (I) 2, 6, 7, 8

    ESTj

    (C) 3, 8
    (P) 1
    (U) 2, 7
    (Q) 6, 9
    (I) 4, 5

    INFj

    (C) 4
    (P) 1, 6, 9
    (U) 2, 5
    (Q)
    (I) 3, 7, 8

    ENFp

    (C) 6, 7
    (P) 2, 4
    (U) 3
    (Q) 9
    (I) 1, 5, 8

    ISTp

    (C) 9
    (P)
    (U) 5
    (Q) 1, 2, 3, 8
    (I) 4, 6, 7
    More to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by aestrivex View Post
    ILE
    best fit: 7
    good fit: none
    ok as: 3
    questionable as: 6,9
    poor fit: 2,4,5,8
    worst fit: 1

    SEI
    best fit: 9
    good fit: 2
    ok as: 7
    questionable as: 1,3,6
    poor fit: 4,5
    worst fit: 8

    ESE
    best fit: 2
    good fit: none
    ok as: 3,7,9
    questionable as: 1,6
    poor fit: 8
    worst fit: 4,5

    LII
    best fit: none
    good fit: 1,5
    ok as: 6,9
    questionable as: 4
    poor fit: 2,3
    worst fit: 7,8

    EIE
    best fit: 3
    good as: 4,7
    ok as: 8
    questionable as: 2,6
    poor fit: 1,9
    worst fit: 5

    LSI
    best fit: 1,6
    good fit: 8
    ok as: 3,7,9
    questionable as: none
    poor fit: 4,5
    worst fit: 2

    SLE
    best fit: 7,8
    good fit: none
    ok as: 3
    questionable as: none
    poor fit: 1,2,6,9
    worst fit: 4,5

    IEI
    best fit: 4
    good fit: none
    ok as: 3,6,7,9
    questionable as: 5
    poor as: 1,2
    worst fit: 8

    SEE
    best fit: none
    good fit: 7,8
    ok as: 3
    questionable as: 2,6
    poor fit: 4,9
    worst fit: 1,5

    ILI
    best fit: 5
    good fit: 6
    ok as: none
    questionable fit: 4,7,8
    poor fit: 1,3,9
    worst fit: 2

    LIE
    best fit: none
    good fit: 8
    ok as: 1
    questionable fit: 5,6,7
    poor fit: 2,3,4,9
    worst fit: none

    ESI
    best fit: 6
    good fit: 1,8
    ok as: none
    questionable fit: 4,6,7,9
    poor fit: 2
    worst fit: 3

    LSE
    best fit: none
    good fit: none
    ok fit: 1,2
    questionable fit: 8,9
    poor as: 5,6,7
    worst fit: 3,4

    EII
    best fit: 9
    good fit: none
    ok fit: 1
    questionable fit: 5,6
    poor as: 2,4,7
    worst fit: 3,8

    IEE
    best fit: none
    good fit: 7,9
    ok fit: 6
    questionable as: 2
    poor as: 3,5,8
    worst fit: 1

    SLI
    best fit: none
    good fit: 5,6
    ok fit: 1,9
    questionable as: 7,8
    poor fit: 2
    worst fit: 3,4
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Another way of looking at it is by determining what functions each type can clearly not have as a leading function.


    So for:

    1 Ni, Ne
    2 Te, Ti, Se
    3 Ni
    4 Te, Ti, Se, probably Si
    5 Se, Fe, Fi
    6 Compatible with every function I think
    7 Probably Te, Ti
    8 Fi, Si, Ni
    9 Se, Te, Ti


    Is out of the question.
    Do a search for "enneagram and socionics correlations" on the forum using google search and a lot correlations come up. There is some consensus on certain types but everyone has their own ideas. I did my own once. I can't find them now.

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    Dudes, I guess I don't get notifications for replies on posts I created. Odd. Going to take a look now, thanks so much for the responses!
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    Thank you for the link Aylen. I agree that IEI is more 4 than 9. 9's often seem more alpha quadrant to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Thank you for the link Aylen. I agree that IEI is more 4 than 9. 9's often seem more alpha quadrant to me
    Yeah, 9 and Si fit together so well imo. I like Azeroffs correlations the best of those listed so far. (Listed in Post #4, posted by Aylen)

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    Same, though I am not the most informed, but the little I do know...
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    Personally, I haven't seen a strong correlation between these two systems. And when I see others propose possible correlations, the explanation for them is very often lacking (mostly non-existent really), which makes it little more than more forum noise. Can be fun to think about, but please don't take it too seriously.

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    What an e-type most commonly shows up in socionics (or viceversa) as is not necessarily the type it equates to. The thread I made is the (attempted) matching of what each element means between the two systems since I believe there's definitely a correlation. This the op is asking for, seems to be for the prevalence estimate of each socionics type as an enneagram type (or viceversa).

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Yeah, 9 and Si fit together so well imo. I like Azeroffs correlations the best of those listed so far. (Listed in Post #4, posted by Aylen)
    9 and Ni also fit well together. Gut types in general are all Si and Ni user, hence their strong ties to nature and being grounded and shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    9 and Ni also fit well together. Gut types in general are all Si and Ni user, hence their strong ties to nature and being grounded and shit
    Go back to the gym where you can kind of pretend you know what you're doing. =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Go back to the gym where you can kind of pretend you know what you're doing. =P
    Are you hitting on me. Cuz if u are it isnt working

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Are you hitting on me. Cuz if u are it isnt working
    No. I'm not. I made a kinda low blow there implying you're not that good at either one. Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    No. I'm not. I made a kinda low blow there implying you're not that good at either one. Sorry about that.
    Yeah no feelings were hurt

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    Lol, what do y'all think about tritypes? I used to think I was 459, but the more I thought about it I was like... I'm not a triple withdrawn yo (withdrawn yes, but triple???). I do also have plenty of 5 qualities and it's undoubtedly my wing (I've scored highest on it on a particular test also, but it's always been 4/4w5 every time over the 100's of times over the years, and anyone who knows me well knows I'm extremely a 4, I almost feel like I should wipe out the other types in tritype and just be 444 lol). I score equal on 9 and 1 so that's been a dilemma for me. I always felt like the online tests were underestimating 7, as there are a lot of signs that point toward 7. I showed some brief descriptions to my dad recently and he said I fit 4 and 7. Lol, he read 1, 2 and 3 and was like (no, no, no, *gets to 4*, "well this rings a bell") He didn't see any of the gut types in me lol. So I did more research and when I found 471 I was like...oh shit. I think this is the one. I actually got emotional hearing about it, which I can't say I've had happen before really. Once again gave him some descriptions, (471, 459 and 479) and lo and behold, 471 was the choice (triple frustrated, heh, no comment :/). So I guess that's why I was curious too, wondering, how much tritypes could play a part.

    Not surprised IEI is 4. The more I learn about it the more it truly seems to be my type, but as I haven't thoroughly dived into socio and probably never will, it's hard to say for sure Hearing of correlations could be helpful in my quest.
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    Look inside yourself, that is where your type resides. It is not found "out there," via tests or what dad has to say or some interweb strangers' interpretations of loose correlations... I strongly suspect you are an attachment type because of all this.

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    seems like a core 9

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