Any good resources for enneagram types commonly seen with certain Socionics types? I know I have seen such a chart for Socionics vs. MBTI. I’m also curious about tritypes and Socionics types
Enneagram and Socionics Correlations (please don’t kill me)
Any good resources for enneagram types commonly seen with certain Socionics types? I know I have seen such a chart for Socionics vs. MBTI. I’m also curious about tritypes and Socionics types
We’ve seen this a billion times but I’ll put my two cents in anyways
This is super stereotypical btw
IEI: 9, 4
EIE: 3, 2, 6
SLE: 7, 8, 3, 6
LSI: 6, 1
ESI: 6, 4, 9
SEE: 3, 7, 6, 8
LIE: 3, 8, 6
ILI: 5
EII: 6, 4, 9
IEE: 7
LSE: 8, 1
SLI: 9, 6
SEI: 9, 6, 2
ESE: 2, 3, 6
ILE: 7
LII: 5, 1
Not doing tritypes because we’d be sitting here for a long time
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ILE 7w6
LII-Ne 5w4
LII Ti 5w6
SEI 9w8
ESE 2w3
LSI-Ti 6w5
LSI-Se 6w7
SLE 7w8
IEI 9w1
EIE 2w1
SEE 3w2
ESI 4w3
LIE 8w7
ILI 1w2
SLI 1w9
IEE 3w4
LSE 8w9
EII 4w5
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Cuz we have 16 socionics types and 18 enneagram wingtypes
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by Azeroffs
09-01-2010 at 03:40 PM (1128 Views)
(C)orrelation - These types match up very well and I'd expect to see a person of one type as also the other.
(P)ossible - While these types don't match up quite so well, I have no reason to believe that they couldn't exist.
(U)nlikely - I see no reason why these types would exist. There's nothing about them that match up, but I couldn't make a strong case for why they wouldn't exist.
(Q)uestionable - These type matchings don't make sense, and I seriously doubt that they could exist, but I'm reluctant to say they are impossible.
(I)mpossible - These types wouldn't work. Core requirements are contradictory.
1 One - Characterized by self-control and limitation of instinctual desires. Very strong super-ego (self-critical), and reliant on judgments of right and wrong. Angry about the external world need to control inner world.
(C) ISFj, ISTj
(P) INTj, INFj, ESTj, ENTj, ESFj, ENFj
(U) ESTp
(Q) ENTp, ISTp, INTp
(I) ENFp, ESFp, INFp, ISFp
2 Two - Characterized by desire to do for others, feel validated by others, and heightened awareness of others feelings. Ignores own desires, and internal feelings. Ashamed of internal world, and need love from the external world.
(C) ESFj, ENFj
(P) ENFp, ESFp, ISFp, ISFj
(U) ESTj, INFj, INFp
(Q) ISTp
(I) ESTp, ENTp, ENTj, INTp, INTj, ISTj
3 Three - Characterized by disassociation with one's feelings. Highly task-oriented and pragmatic. Desire to be the best. Must accomplish something to deserve love, and feel ashamed when they fail.
(C) ENTj, ESTj, ENFj
(P) ESFj, ESTp, ENTp
(U) ESFp, ENFp, INTj, ISTj
(Q) INTp, ISTp
(I) ISFp, INFp, ISFj, INFj
4 Four - Characterized by internal emotion and complexity. Adherence and connection to internal feelings. Ashamed of external world and external self, and need love from internal world.
(C) INFp, INFj
(P) ISFp, ENFp
(U) ISFj, ENFj
(Q) ESFj, ESFp, INTp
(I) ESTp, ENTP, ESTj, ENTJ, ISTj, INTj, ISTp
5 Five - Characterized by detached thought and analysis. Detached from emotions and limited instincts. Fear external world, and rely on internal understanding.
(C) INTp, INTj
(P) ENTp
(U) ENTj, INFj, ISTj, ISTp
(Q) INFp
(I) ESTp, ESTj, ESFp, ESFj, ENFp, ENFj, ISFp, ISFj
6 Six - Characterized by conflict of uncertainty and trust. Lack internal guide. Need for stability and something to guide them, and fear not having anything to trust.
(C) ESFJ, ENFj, ENFp, ESFp
(P) ISFj, INFj
(U) ISFp, INFp, ENTp
(Q) ESTp, ESTj, ENTj
(I) INTj, ISTj, INTp, ISTp
7 Seven - Characterized by a need to experience, and be involved in new things. Fear internal world, and rely on external involvement.
(C) ENFp, ENTp, ESFp, ESTp
(P) ESFj
(U) ENFj, ENTj, ESTj
(Q) ISFp
(I) INTp, INFp, INFj, INTj, ISTj, ISFj, ISTp
8 Eight - Characterized by head strong stubbornness and conflict. The need to be in control of things around them. Internally vulnerable, but closed off. Angry about internal world, and need to control external world.
(C) ESTp, ENTj, ESTj
(P) ISTj, ISFj, ESFp
(U) ESFj, ENFj
(Q) ISTp, ENTp
(I) INFp, ISFp, INTj, INFj, INTp, ENFp
9 Nine - Characterized by inertness and natural calm. The have a need for harmony and conflict free environment. Need to find some well being and psychological comfort, and are angered when it is disturbed.
(C) ISTp, ISFp
(P) INFj, INFp, INTp
(U) INTj, ISTj, ISFj
(Q) ESTj, ESFj, ENFp, ESFp
(I) ENTj, ENFj, ENTp, ESTp
Socionics => Enneagram
ESFj
(C) 2, 6
(P) 1, 3, 7
(U) 8
(Q) 4, 9
(I) 5
INTj
(C) 5
(P) 1
(U) 3, 9
(Q)
(I) 2, 4, 6, 7, 8
ENTp
(C) 7
(P) 3, 5
(U) 6
(Q) 1, 8
(I) 2, 4
ISFp
(C) 9
(P) 2, 4
(U) 6
(Q) 7
(I) 1, 3, 5, 8
ENFj
(C) 2, 3, 6
(P) 1
(U) 4, 7, 8
(Q)
(I) 5, 9
ISTj
(C) 1
(P) 8
(U) 3, 5, 9
(Q) 2
(I) 4, 6, 7
ESTp
(C) 7, 8
(P) 3
(U) 1
(Q) 6
(I) 2, 4, 5, 9
INFp
(C) 4
(P) 9
(U) 2, 6
(Q) 5
(I) 1, 3, 7, 8
ENTj
(C) 3, 8
(P) 1
(U) 5, 7
(Q) 6
(I) 2, 4
ISFj
(C) 1
(P) 2, 6, 8
(U) 9
(Q) 4
(I) 3, 5, 7
ESFp
(C) 6, 7
(P) 2, 8
(U) 3
(Q) 4, 9
(I) 1, 5
INTp
(C) 5
(P) 9
(U)
(Q) 1, 3, 4
(I) 2, 6, 7, 8
ESTj
(C) 3, 8
(P) 1
(U) 2, 7
(Q) 6, 9
(I) 4, 5
INFj
(C) 4
(P) 1, 6, 9
(U) 2, 5
(Q)
(I) 3, 7, 8
ENFp
(C) 6, 7
(P) 2, 4
(U) 3
(Q) 9
(I) 1, 5, 8
ISTp
(C) 9
(P)
(U) 5
(Q) 1, 2, 3, 8
(I) 4, 6, 7
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Do a search for "enneagram and socionics correlations" on the forum using google search and a lot correlations come up. There is some consensus on certain types but everyone has their own ideas. I did my own once. I can't find them now.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Dudes, I guess I don't get notifications for replies on posts I created. Odd. Going to take a look now, thanks so much for the responses!
Thank you for the link Aylen. I agree that IEI is more 4 than 9. 9's often seem more alpha quadrant to me
Same, though I am not the most informed, but the little I do know...
Personally, I haven't seen a strong correlation between these two systems. And when I see others propose possible correlations, the explanation for them is very often lacking (mostly non-existent really), which makes it little more than more forum noise. Can be fun to think about, but please don't take it too seriously.
What an e-type most commonly shows up in socionics (or viceversa) as is not necessarily the type it equates to. The thread I made is the (attempted) matching of what each element means between the two systems since I believe there's definitely a correlation. This the op is asking for, seems to be for the prevalence estimate of each socionics type as an enneagram type (or viceversa).
9 and Ni also fit well together. Gut types in general are all Si and Ni user, hence their strong ties to nature and being grounded and shit
Are you hitting on me. Cuz if u are it isnt working
Yeah no feelings were hurt
Lol, what do y'all think about tritypes? I used to think I was 459, but the more I thought about it I was like... I'm not a triple withdrawn yo (withdrawn yes, but triple???). I do also have plenty of 5 qualities and it's undoubtedly my wing (I've scored highest on it on a particular test also, but it's always been 4/4w5 every time over the 100's of times over the years, and anyone who knows me well knows I'm extremely a 4, I almost feel like I should wipe out the other types in tritype and just be 444 lol). I score equal on 9 and 1 so that's been a dilemma for me. I always felt like the online tests were underestimating 7, as there are a lot of signs that point toward 7. I showed some brief descriptions to my dad recently and he said I fit 4 and 7. Lol, he read 1, 2 and 3 and was like (no, no, no, *gets to 4*, "well this rings a bell") He didn't see any of the gut types in me lol. So I did more research and when I found 471 I was like...oh shit. I think this is the one. I actually got emotional hearing about it, which I can't say I've had happen before really. Once again gave him some descriptions, (471, 459 and 479) and lo and behold, 471 was the choice (triple frustrated, heh, no comment :/). So I guess that's why I was curious too, wondering, how much tritypes could play a part.
Not surprised IEI is 4. The more I learn about it the more it truly seems to be my type, but as I haven't thoroughly dived into socio and probably never will, it's hard to say for sureHearing of correlations could be helpful in my quest.
Look inside yourself, that is where your type resides. It is not found "out there," via tests or what dad has to say or some interweb strangers' interpretations of loose correlations... I strongly suspect you are an attachment type because of all this.
seems like a core 9
well, I'm really interested in killing you!
as I said already, don't waste time on correlating them. find out separately. that's the most accurate way, and better(reason?because I say.).
Why is LII Type 7 impossible? May be a mistype (more likely to not be a LII, I think my enneatype makes sense) but I suspect myself to be those types. My reasoning for it was mostly through process of elimination, like I don't seem to be using any of the information elements bcz I'm just focused on distracting myself/dicking around, but when I do use an element, it's usually Ti-Ne. It's often hard to see because my thoughts are frequently blocked/forgotten but I think it makes sense. I made a "type-me" post if you want to debate it
o.o because type 7s are by socionics definition quintessential extroverts. Their base motivation of escaping from their internal world into the external world of stimulation and distraction negates any possibility of them being introverts outside of social introversion which differs from socionics. So while a 7 may be introverted by big5 definitions..e_e its impossible for a 7 to be anything other than a socionics extratim (aka extrovert).Why is LII Type 7 impossible? May be a mistype (more likely to not be a LII, I think my enneatype makes sense) but I suspect myself to be those types. My reasoning for it was mostly through process of elimination, like I don't seem to be using any of the information elements bcz I'm just focused on distracting myself/dicking around, but when I do use an element, it's usually Ti-Ne. It's often hard to see because my thoughts are frequently blocked/forgotten but I think it makes sense. I made a "type-me" post if you want to debate it
Well I think that makes sense that I may be an extrotim lol, I'm still pretty new to socionics. Thanks for the response!
I'm so lazy at the moment to write them
I'll do it later
There is none so far but it doesn't really matter.
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