I think EIE fits
I think EIE fits
And I'm what you desire, like a siren in the night
Originally Posted by Starfall7w6 2w3 8w9 - The Free Spirit
It goes for Se/Ni too, because an Se ego might be good enough in Ni and poor enough in Se to appear Ni ego or vice versa. Ex. an ESI sacrifices a lot of territory/power for their main focus of relationships, so they will use more Fi and Ni and the Se might only be visible in what they do in relationships or the power behind personal ethics. SLE would mainly focus on territory/power instead of relationships, on the other hand.
I would say EIE is a good impression so far and if you relate to being unable to relax and like shaking things up then I would say look at EIE and SEE first, IEE second, ESE last. So far you show little inward looking in your replies and there seems to be a SeFe attachment to the environment and socializing that replaces this. Which I do too.
And I'm what you desire, like a siren in the night
Originally Posted by Starfall7w6 2w3 8w9 - The Free Spirit
Oh yeah, I score 80% on neuroticism and I have a ton of negative overdramatic emotion hahahaha
For example, I am Si polr but I wouldn't say I like discomfort - that sounds like a masochistic outlook - just that I'm not particularly attentive to comfort.
Also, making people uncomfortable and shaking them up towards a bigger issue, which is what the OP says he likes to do - is more of a beta quadra thing, than gamma (especially making people uncomfortable is more of an EIE thing). Gamma values Fi, which means they usually take into account how they make others feel, if they make them uncomfortable or uneasy etc. This is not about physical comfort, but relational comfort.
Anyway all these types have 4D Fe. It's kind of interesting seeing them all together like this. E7 is more often associated with the 4 EP types. I have no real issue with an EIE 7 but on closer look a lot of them turn out to be 3w4s and not 7s especially when they are sx/so. At least that is how it has turned out with some people I talk to one on one and know irl. It was when they got a little older I realized the ones irl were 3w4. I am not suggesting any type for you since nothing really jumps out at me reading this thread. If you haven't read IEE profiles then maybe check them out.
Socionics type descriptions compiled by Igor Weisband from materials by Aushra Augustinavichiute "Working Papers on Socionics":
IEE - ENFp (Ne,Fi)
Thomas Henry Huxley - the famous English biologist and comparative anatomist.
Another pseudonym of this type: Tom Sawyer - a hero of Mark Twain's book.
1. An ardent enthusiast. He is a highly spiritual, artistic individual. The Psychologist quickly resolves any personal problems, always relying upon his talent for immediate improvisation instead of preparing the work in advance. He loves situations when new and exciting undertakings come up, when it is possible to demonstrate his own and others’ talents; when one can still expect the most unusual development of events.
2. A Don Juan. He gauges various virtues and talents in the people he meets and cannot hold back from reporting his observations to them with great enthusiasm. Often other people mistake his dramatic display of emotions for his real feelings, which earns him the reputation of a Don Juan. In fact, he is quite conservative in his feelings, attached to a close circle of his friends, whose opinions hold great weight for him and totally determine his mood, behavior, and knowledge. If he really is a playboy, he does not hide it.
3. Sensitive. His speech is often romantic, his smiles are enticing, but very often that’s as far as it goes. His motto is ‘emotional power over all and sexual freedom from all’.
4. "Modest". As a rule, he is not ambitious, because he can enjoy the circle of his friends and the anticipation of something interesting. Unlike The Politician, who likes to be an obvious ruler of the situation, he prefers to be its covert ruler. And his influence is directed first of all towards making other people reveal their skills and talents.
5. A scientist. He is sensitive about how others evaluate his mental skills. Often he strives to get a degree in higher learning, achieve scientific recognition and awards: this gives him the opportunity to work with a clear conscience (without having to doubt his qualifications). He is touchy when other people criticize ideas that he holds dear, or deny him and his friends’ talents. This is why he prefers the company of those who share his beliefs.
6. A person of mood. His mood determines everything: plans for the future, self-estimation, and ideas about the world. Ambitious plans can change to disappointment and sadness; but interesting news, praise, or an unexpected interesting opportunity immediately lifts his spirits. Boredom can even make him ill.
7. Altruistic. He is ready to help other people in solving their personal problems. The greatest pleasure for him is to find a way out from the situation that others consider hopeless. He is capable of demonstrating friendliness and benevolence to all. However, he saves his real efforts for about whom he is serious, and in this case he does much more than people ever expect from him and more than he himself promises.
Your dual (psychologically complementary type): Gabin, The Craftsman (sensory-logical introvert).EIE (Hamlet)
EIE - ENFj (Fe,Ni)
Hamlet, the Prince of Danemark - the hero of W.Shakespeare's tragedy.
1. To be or not to be? A serious person focused on global problems. Sees the world in dramatic, even tragic colors. Expects all kinds of trouble. Beethoven’s four notes – the theme of fate – sound like the theme of his life. He takes personal problems and addresses them on a global scale. Meanwhile he often also strives to give something back to mankind.
2. Romantic. Tends to permanent doubts and wavering. Sometimes seems to people around him to be an irritable, easily excitable individual. For example any unnecessary movements put him off, because the world as it is already seems to him too dynamic. Does not like to take initiative. He values feelings above cold-minded analysis.
3. Strategist. Knows how to time his efforts. Bravely enters a situation once he had carefully studied it and prepared everything ahead of time. He waits for the right time to make a move, makes arrangements for any possible turn of events, anticipates and plans against any problems, and then acts assertively, without taking a chance. He does not take his job lightly, feels responsible to complete the project he undertakes. Struggles for victory at any cost – it is easier for him to suffer defeat than settle for a compromise. In emergency situations his redundant caution disappears without any trace.
4. Good vs. evil. He never does things he considers as evil, and is very intolerable to evil in others. However, his ethical theory is based on his own principles, without consideration for customs and authority. Sometimes his views on problems of good and evil are very original. In any case he consequently acts on them and insistently defends them.
5. Attentive to people. He is sometimes even imposing and demanding, sympathizes with them, tries to rescue them during hard times. It is not so easy to get along with him, since he is not lighthearted in his attitude towards life. More likely he is a good family man/woman. He expresses his feelings for his partner not so much through material care, as with dramatic narratives and warnings against possible dangers. The latter quality is quite important for his dual (The Inspector) who is not very capable of forecasting future events. You may call him late at night; to your question "Did I wake you up?" he will reply cheerfully "You did!" (The Humanist, who also tends to empathize, will nevertheless reply "Not at all" in a tone of voice that will make you feel ashamed).
6. Unaesthetic in routine. He does not like to take care of routine chores in presence of others as a rule, in general unable to work while being watched. If he can, he will send everyone away to run an errand. He is very fearful that his movements would seem clumsy, unaesthetic.
7. "Proud". He has a characteristic seemingly arrogant way of carrying himself. People may get an impression that he is acting, beefing up his own importance. He is a good leader.
and since they were suggested here is ESE and SEE.
ESE - ESFj (Fe,Si)
Victor Hugo - the famous French writer.
1. Ardent. He has a wide spectrum of powerful emotions. He is capable of staying true to the vision of his youth throughout his whole life (Henry Schliemann still in his childhood decided to excavate the city of Troy; to achieve his dream he had to get an education, in spite of his poverty, and to get rich). An admirer of the arts as a source of pleasure. He creates his mood by himself and knows how to make it contagious for others. Emotionally fine, kind, compassionate.
2 Untiring. Always active, he is ever mixing with people, rushing to and from. He can easily switch from one task to another. He works very diligently. He does not prefer one errand to another, all should be accomplished whether interesting or not. This is not something to be discussed or analyzed; simply the work must be completed. He appears very self-assured and self-satisfied, as if succeeding without effort in all endeavors. It seems like he acts promptly and gets good results. However, he himself might not see it that way, so he greatly appreciates sincere compliments for his work.
3. My home is your home. Hugo is a pleasant interlocutor and a very attentive listener. He can pick the right key to any person. He joys himself in making others happy. Revels in table talks and all sorts of merriment. All his considerate attention is for his guest. He is capable of understanding other people, admire them, approve of their deeds, and express compassion. He trusts people, is distant from envy taking pleasure in the successes of others. He accurately detects their flaws and makes fun of them, without any intent to insult the person.
4. Traditionalist. He does not seek or like new solutions preferring older, time-tested methods. To solve the most intricate problems it is necessary for him to work alone, he gives too much attention to people and would be distracted if someone is around. When working among others he makes a lot of unnecessary movements, as if to disguise what he is really doing. In this way he draws to work his dual (The Analyst), which does not tolerate a commanding tone. He loves when people trust his word and do not demand for him to substantiate what he is saying. He is not aggressive, but he defends himself very actively. He won’t even let his superiors offend him.
5. Adherent of order. He loves to dress up and takes good care of his appearance. He can’t tolerate any disorder or uncertainty in everything from his appearance to his garage and cubbyhole. He does not wish to adapt to the tastes of others. Compliments on his appearance are in vain – he believes he knows better how he looks. He takes not of not just spiritual qualities of his partner, but physical as well.
6. Relationships in his life. People around him usually respect his opinion, but try not to communicate with him for too long, it is not easy to withstand his emotional charge. For the same reason he hasn’t too many close friends. He reaches his goals through his own hard work and does not hope for the assistance of others. What he values most in his life is his family. If he had to choose between love and a degree, he would choose the first, considering it a priority, while viewing science as a self-indulgence, a pleasurable avocation.SEE (Napoleon)
SEE - ESFp (Se,Fi)
Napoleon Bonaparte - famous French military and political leader.
Another pseudonym of this type: Caius Julius Caesar - the first Roman Emperor.
1. Kindness is power. He takes pride in his influence with people, their love and respect, of his own popularity, gladly leads others. He is assertive and kinky in expressing his sexuality, but aloof in dealing with the objective world, mistrustful towards new scientific ideas and in general towards everything things objective, which he perceives as too impersonal. He feels much more confident and therefore has a clear conscience, only in the field of manipulating people.
2. Restless activity, greed for practical actions. He never hides his feelings – en contraire, he takes special pride in them. It is easy for him to sound sincere, when he expresses his true feelings. He expresses his admiration both verbally and with a look in his eyes. He is always an adherent of love in all its aspects, both carnal and psychological, if he needs it. Even when a feeling is of a passing nature, he knows very well what he desires from his lover, has no intention to adapt – only to dictate. He is arrogant, optimistic, before a complicated situation he does not go shy but tries to resolve it immediately in a few decisive moves.
3. He pays a lot of attention to the esthetic and order in his surroundings. Frequently he is the possessor of inborn taste, knows how to dress well and demands the same from his partners. He is attentive to “physical parameters” of his partner. In all his activities he shows a lot of initiative. However, he lacks a sense of measure: he is ever unsure that he has done all he could.
4. Less nagging and more living! His life may be poisoned by the demands of those close to him to think his actions through, to act “rationally”. This is too much for him to withstand, such demands only make him want to act more irrationally, and brush reason aside altogether to spite everyone. In fact, he acts cleverly and logically until someone starts to demand of him to do so, i.e. as long as he is “respected” and “reckoned with”. It is useless to dispute his logic: one can influence him only by challenging him to set aside his goals in favor of other ones, more noble and harder attainable.
5. Laws are cowards’ inventions. His initiative and passion for new undertakings are so great that no criticism, even permanent grumble of his dual (Balzac, The Critic) who condemns almost each display of enthusiasm, can spoil his mood. Moreover: criticizing calms him down, for him it signals that his activities did not pass unnoticed and that he must have done enough.
6. Disappointment. Due to his initiative and demanding nature he frequently feels disappointed with his loved ones: they turn out to be “not what they seemed to be”, not perceptive enough of his whims. The bottom line is that he needs a partner who is easy to adapt to without adapting at all (without changing his own nature). If such a partner is not nearby, he gets up to mischief in order to draw such a person’s attention.
And welcome to the forum.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I'm a noobish typer myself, but personally I don't see any Ni in that short (too short) video. You remind me oddly of my friend, which I type ENFp. More observation and thinking-it-over/consideration (mainly on your side - it's your type) is needed.
Lol, I have considered IEE, thats what I originally typed myself as, but the more I've learned, the more I connect with Beta and less with Delta. Delta types get annoyed with me for being too Beta in conversation sometimes. Like this one time I was talking to an IEE about automation of labour and how it's a very serious threat and we need to change the system so AI works for everyone. He didnt like me getting too serious and political. He wanted to just keep things light. I hate shit like that, I think people are wayy too comfortable and if we dont get our shit together, we're gonna lose what we take for granted.
For posterity, I am a socialist and believer in revolution to turn society upside down in favor of the greater good.
I score 90%+ in extroversion on the big 5. No one I know would ever consider me an introvert. I hate being alone, I get all my energy from socializing and I'm drained by solitude within hours.
I come across as more IEE in certain contexts, cause I am enneagram 7 and I have capacity to joke and have fun/goof around for a good while. But then I have to get serious and substantive. Or else there's no point. I dont have fun just to have fun and nothing else, theres always has to be a greater purpose. Without purpose, nothing I do is worth anything
(I don't negate you may be/are an EIE, just two cents)
Adam Strange seems to know what's up when it comes to typing I notice
"I am my own muse. I am the subject I know best, the subject I want to know better."
4 core, sx/so slight sx bend, xNFp Melancholic, Negotiator, Explorer