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    If you have, or know of, a gallery or Pinterest specific to the VI of celebrity types you can now post it here. MBTI galleries also welcome for comparisons since they often overlap. I will keep them separated from socionics VI.

    This will be a sticky. I will add them to this post as they are posted in this thread. You can give your opinions or ratings on them but be respectful when reviewing them since people put a lot of effort and time into making these.

    Don't post videos in this thread only your links.

    Socionics:

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...IdentificationSocionics


    Socionix Gallery (wikisocion)

    Socionenneagram

    Socionics New Wave (Stackemup Typology)

    Socionics Type Examples (Sociotypes)

    Types and celebrities (socionics.com)

    Typometrics

    Video bloggers types list (by Sol)

    http://soziotypen.de/bekannte-persoenlichkeiten/


    Russian Galleries

    http://krivosheev.socioland.ru/book-gallery/ (Efim Krivosheyev)

    http://www.socionic.ru/index.php/2012-05-17-00-13-33 (Pavel Kuleshov)

    http://ru.laser.ru/gallery/index.html (Ruslan Stepanov)

    http://psychotype.ru/photo-video.html (Tomofey Duhovskoy)

    https://socioniks.net/famouspeople/ (Viktor Gulenko)


    Benchmark Lists (may or may not advocate the use of VI)

    WSS


    MBTI:

    IDRLabs

    Personality-database.com

    Personality Club

    Visually
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    Would be wider choice among lists (including text ones), as galleries do lesser of people.
    Galleries were good to get visual data and understand the "general image" of types. Since end of 2000s Internet is cheap and it's not hard to watch videos of several people per a type by their names. So the use from galleries is much lesser now.

    http://ru.laser.ru/gallery/index.html (Ruslan Stepanov)
    http://krivosheev.socioland.ru/book-gallery/ (Efim Krivosheyev)
    https://socioniks.net/famouspeople/ (Viktor Gulenko)
    http://psychotype.ru/photo-video.html (Tomofey Duhovskoy)
    http://www.socionic.ru/index.php/2012-05-17-00-13-33 (Pavel Kuleshov)

    Links to some lists: *

    more to support your interest to my examples

    addition:
    http://andrewbozhko.com/16_sociotipov (Andrey Bozhko)
    http://www.socionika.lv/en/descripti...of-sociotypes/ (Velta Mikelsone)

    http://mbti-typings.my-free.website/
    http://www.personalityclub.com
    http://visual.ly/community/infograph...sonality-types
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    here's my gallery

    http://soziotypen.de/bekannte-persoenlichkeiten/

    should be easily accessible for non-german speakers too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    MBTI users should to have some
    MBTI must be destroyed.

    damn heretics typed ****** to my holly duals
    https://www.personalityclub.com/blog/famous-infj/
    I also think he was EII in socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mclane View Post
    MBTI must be destroyed.
    I also think he was EII in socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    I looked at this gif and thought "An EII disappointed that some guy just doesn't get it." Then I discovered that this is Ann Hathaway.

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    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    "If you have, or know of, a gallery or Pinterest specific to the VI of celebrity types you can now post it here."

    Formally, it's unclear was VI used or not for a list. In general, typers take into account intuitive impressions and associations which are under strong influence of visual information they have. But if you'll ask - some may do not confirm this, as to use an intuition mb seen for them as not scientific (what is funny, as in Jung's types it's one of 4 functions). Though nonverbal specific impressions for types were mentioned since Augustinavichiute's texts, I seems was the 1st who have given the clear description of intuitive approach of VI and later in 2015 made experimenting proof that this approach is useful (by average typing match higher than accidental, up to ~20% in the experiment on the socioforum).

    It's useful to make a note in the title message, that VI has 2 appoaches: 1) physiognomic of how people look and 2) intuitive which is based on impressions from nonverbal. It's not the same to join in just "VI". A minority of typers may use a physiognomy (Duhovskoy, for example). But it's doubtful to exclude that someone totally ignores intuitive approach, especially if a typer has N type. There are cases when typers may agree to type without visual info, but mostly they prefer to have it as IRL interview, video or photos, at least. Those who use physiognomy may do not ask for more than photos, while the rest should point that video or IRL would be better.

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    Mine is the best, obviously.

    Here is a Core Primer On Stackemup Typology (Socionics-Side)'s VI Templates:


    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-VI-Templates

    Socionics New Wave (Stackemup Typology)

    ^That's mine. Mine was the first on pinterest. As I describe in the primer, my VI templates "are high-quality, time-tested, time-proof valid VI templates that completely demolish Aushra and Socionics.com's VI templates in terms of quality and practicality (Russian socionists have been trying to develop top notch VI templates for decades).

    Because I was the first to put VI templates up on pinterest, I got the name www.pinterest.com/socionics. In fairness to Socionix, Socionix already had the galleries developed at least a decade ago prior to socionix's galleries going up on pinterest.

    The rest of these pages can either be divided up into one group of people who are pulling heavily from Socionics New Wave and the other group of people as doing fake socionics.

    Comments to follow:


    Socionenneagram
    Socionenneagram features a heavy duty rip-off of Stackemup Typology (both socionics and enneagram)...happens all the time with enneagram pinterest pages, and they never give Stackemup Typology credit. Nevertheless, in spite of the fact I'm often imitated, I'm never duplicated.

    https://www.pinterest.com/stackemupennea/

    Stackemup Typology is the only one that has laid down the substantive groundwork for a fusion between Socionics and Enneagram.

    This site tries but runs into all sorts of structural/conceptual/logical flaws.

    This site came after socionics new wave and after my enneagram pinterest page and uses many of stackemup typologies typings but they have not shown socionics new wave proper deference.

    So yeah, on the one hand, a lot of the typings on there come from me. Stackemup enneagram is the first to type Bjork so/sp, first to type Obama sp/so, first to type the tesla guy sp/so...etc etc etc....at least a hundred of the not-so-famous-but-far-cooler-than celebrities on there were discovered by Stackemup Typology...i highly doubt the author discovered John Joseph on their own.

    BUT even though they take a lot of my examples they try to strike out on their own. That's the problem. They are pulling my typings out of a specific VI context, so if you pull out that example and you call my SLE-Ti your SLE-Ti, guess what, all my SLE-Ti becomes your SLE-Ti, otherwsie you're not using VI. And that's the problem...they're cherrypicking my typings out of context from its VI template. Trump is SLE-Ti because he perfectly fits the SLE-Ti Templates (which has been shown to correlate with cognitive markers consistent to SLE-Ti). The above page ends up without any coherent markers from one grouping to the other because they're pulling my typings out of context. There's no intelligent design. Its just a clustered mess with some accurate typings thanks to Stackemup Typology (socionics-side). Vladimir Putin and Bjork clearly are not the same stacking. Bjork is so/sp. Putin is sp/so. So many on there are wrong. What a nightmare. Clearly, this person is just throwing darts on a board trying to differentiate themselves from Stackemup Typology all the while Stackemup Typology has its shadow cast over that entire page. Taking my typings and not giving me credit for it, posting it like they Christopher Columbus'd the shit isn't cool.

    But at the end of the day, they are not putting forth any VI templates...the site is just doing subjective impressionism. Subjective impressionism is a crap method of typing.

    At least they got Donald Trump right (SLE-Ti), but there's no VI coherence between Trump and Napoleon (SLE-Se) yet they have Napoleon as SLE-Ti. MY VI templates are just so much tighter, so much sharper, so much more coherent.
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    Socionics Type Examples (Sociotypes)
    Sociotypes is fake socionics all day and night. I mean, come on, anybody that thinks Trump is SEE is totally clueless. That typing comes from fake socionics and are based on Aushra's low quality shitty VI templates. I told everybody, my templates are a 10 times better. Coincidentally, just about every typing in the SLE-Ti section is wrong. Those aren't Zhukovs. Where the fck do they come up with this shit...rutger hauer, demi moore, They're fckin wusses! they can't lead their way through a paper box never mind a harsh war if their life depended on it. zhukovs have steel-sized balls. Winona Ryder, Meryl Streep GET THE FCK OUTTA HERE> BUt That's HOW WE KNOW THAT AUSHRA"S VI TEMPLATES ARE SHIT, because people who fit into Aushra's Crap VI Templates totally one hundred percent contradict the psychological markers for each socionics type. In most cases they don't even have Se in their ego block thats how friggin' horrible aushra's templates are.

    My VI templates clear away all that BS...Carmine Galante, Donald Trump, Ty fckin Cobb, John Dillinger, Huey Long, these are motherfckin' Zhukovs. Winona fckin' Ryder is no fckin' Zhukov.


    Types and celebrities (socionics.com)[/URL]
    My VI templates blow socionics.com's delipadated, obsolete VI templates out of the water like a Navy Battleship firing on a canoe. They stink. Socionics.com's VI templates STINK. That's the only word to describe them with.

    Typometrics
    Typometrics is an attempt to combine Stackemup Typology's VI templates with Socionix' VI Galleries.

    This is somebody who has obviously done in-depth study into both Socionix Galleries and Stackemup Typology (Socionics-side).

    Megan Fox, Madonna, Lindsay Lohan as SLE-Ti all comes straight from Socionix...Charles Manson as LSI comes from Socionix.

    The person still reads the boaard...they got JOe Exotic (LSE-Te) from me.

    Eminem as ESI, Joe Exotic as LSE-Te (though I did not post him), Meg Myers as ESI-Fi, Edgar Kace as ILI-Ni, G Eazy as LIE-Te, all comes from me. Those are all Stackemup Typology original typings...this page isn't listed as one of my followers, though.

    OF COURSE THEY FOLLOW ME. Those are my typings, which is fine but understand they are pulling my typings out of a specific VI context, so if you pull out Meg Myers from my ESI-Fi groupings, all my ESI-Fi becomes your ESI-Fi, otherwsie you're not using VI. And that's the problem...they're cherrypicking my typings out of context from its VI template.

    That's why socionix and socionics new wave cannot be combined...you cannot combine mine with any because every single one of my typings is specific to its VI markers.

    Rather, we say that both belong to American Socionics, but just because both are American Socionics doesn't mean all VI templates are equal. Socionix' templates are not as refined as mine. mine are more refined and tighter. socionix is using a more general template for each type/subtype. its general enough of a template that megan fox, kendra wilkinson, david bowie, can be fit into SLE. my templates are tighter that I can ship those people over to SEE and EIE with no problem. In contrast, socionix entangles multiple VI templates into one type/subtype. For example, the SLE-Ti template is really a combination of SLE-Ti, EIE-Ni, and SEE-Fi. My templates are much tighter.


    These rest are all fake socionics.

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    world socionics is bs socionics...just about everybody uses stackemup typology's templates now. jack and his world socionics society is ancient history, like the majority of his exemplars. jack doesn't even have one post on his board. that's what happened after he tried to get into a pissing contest with socionics new wave (stackemup Typology). He had Expat and all those people, all the interviews, but he did not have my VI templates. My VI templates is what made Stackemup Typology (socionics-side) a typology superpower and his now a sunken battleship with zero posts on his forum....my high-quality VI templates is why I was able to get American Socionics off the ground and now American Socionics is ready to be turned into a powerhouse because it buries Russian Socionics in terms of substance. worldsocionics doesn't exist. there's only American Socionics (Smilexian Socionics, Socionix, Stackemup Typology) and Russian Socionics. Let the Cold War begin.

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ican-Socionics

    I'll say it again and again. My VI templates are 100 percent on the money. So just accept it and apply it and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Mine is the best, obviously.

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    @Kill4Me why do you write like this




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    Stackemup has no platform of their own, do they? I just see these over-the-top marketing posts on various forums by a poster who never engages in discussions, and the brunt of it is about their pinterest account (yeah well, I have a pinterest account too lol) and a livejournal site with just a list of typings without any explanations. I'm no fan of WSS either, but at least they explain their logic and engage with critique: they are accountable for their ideas and you know what they're about. Stackemup is just one big question mark. I would love to be proven wrong here, but Stackemup has always evaded scrutiny. Very evasive.


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    I'm going to repost what I had originally had up here minus the references to enneagram....This thread does open review and critique of other pinterest pages, so my my very powerful and poignantly bullseye critique regarding socionics needs to be included.

    As I previously posted:

    Typometrics is an even bigger joke than I initially thought. It has Donald Trump typed as SEE-Se. Trump doesn't have an ounce of Fi in his ego block. I totally destroyed Soupman in a debate about this years ago. The fake socionists make the dumbest argument that because Trump won the election he's got Fi in his ego block. That's essentially the argument from the fake socionics crowd for Trump being Se Fi. It's the most retarded, ass backwards argument I've ever heard. He's SeFi because he won the election...the fck!

    But wait, it gets more insane. Typometrics then puts Edward Norton as a SLE-Ti! They then cap the section off as "Conquest and Dramatics."

    Edward Norton is a fckin' goodie two shoed nerd beta bitch boy...you telling me he's all about Conquest and Trump isn't. That's ridiculous. Watch an interview with Norton, if you raise a fist to him he'll crap his pants. srsly what planet do these people come from, they have no ability to size people up. Watch interviews with Courtney Love on her ex-boyfriend Ed Norton, she describes him as the sweetest and biggest beta bitch she ever dated...They have Jim Carrey as an SLE and Trump as an SEE. Again, Jim Carrey is wayyy more Fi than Trump. But apparently for typometrics, SLE is the ultimate beta bitch type...lol. For all the typings Typometrics boosted from me (Gordon Ramsay LSE-Te, Joe Exotic LSE-Te, Ellen DeGeneres IEE-Ne, and many more, without giving me any credit I might add, it got Trump wrong...which is the easiest of all to get!...you know its not an IEI who did those groupings!) These are just clusterfcks of multiple VI templates for different types strewn into one type. You couldn't possibly come up with applicable descriptions for each ego based on the examples in each grouping. The structural/logical/conceptual flaws are abundant. It's great that I have inspired so much productivity in Socionics, but geezus, at least get Trump's type right!!

    Sociotypes also boosted my SLE-Se subtype typing for Napoleon. These people have a website too with descriptions on it that nobody ever references...It goes to show how crappy Aushra's VI templates are that you can possibly come out with Napoleon and Kirsten Dunst as the same type. That makes no sense at all, same for all of them....that's almost as bad as the site I saw where they had alexander the great and renee zelwegger as the same type and subtype! I think I saw a couple fours in there. That's the limitations of working out of a one typology closed universe mindset. JUST LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN MY SLE-TI GROUPINGS VERSUS SOCIOTYPES GROUPINGS:

    https://www.pinterest.com/sociotypes/socionics-sle-ti/

    https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sle-ti/

    LOOK AT MY VI TEMPLATES and go read the descriptions for SLE and Se-lead....YOU LOOK at my examples and my overall Template, anybody, I mean anybody, even off the street, with just a brain, would say NOW THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, cognition for FORCE, POWER, CONQUERING... sociotypes' grouping for SLE-Ti would leave anybody with a brain scratching their head, "Wait these are the conquerors?" And if you have a brain you should be like wait, that's so insane and makes no sense. And that's the point. AUshra's VI templates make no sense whatsoever. Its fake socionics. My templates give a foundation for descriptions. The templates at sociotypes are so general and entangled with multiple templates piled into one socionics type, it's a damn trainwreck. Sociotypes does have descirptions on a site nobody ever references because everybody is fed up with fake socionics...but as is plainly obvious, a lot of their examples for say SLE can't be reconciled with the description of SLE... Its like that all the way through. These people or person are not doing realism but just building air castles in the sky!

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    And this one:

    here's just one example out of a 100 of how disjointed, disconnected and discombabulated socionenneagram's VI templates are. socionenneagram has Patrick Carney and Tim Lambesis both typed as ILI-Te! Wha'

    look how bad socionenneagram's VI templates are:





    Lambesis and Carney clearly DO NOT VI in any way as the same socionics type and subtype. I could post pictures of these two that really really highlight how bad the VI is, and that is just one example out of many. Bottom line is not even Houdini could ever run descriptions off how disconnected and disjointed socionenneagram's VI templates are for each socionics type and subtype (and stackings as well).

    you don't have to know socionics to know that. it just rings as OFF even for newcomers. Nobody can believe that these two would be listed as having the same VI in any typology....

    the Structural, Logical, Conceptual FLaws in socionenneagram are HUGE....

    I said it before, I'll say it again. I CRACKED THE VALID VI TEMPLATES FOR EACH TYPE AND SUBTYPE.

    https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/

    The VI templates for each socionics type and subtype is NOWHERE NEAR AS TIGHT AND IN SYNC AS MINE.

    so either socionenneagram is not doing VI (which means the typings are just based on arbitrary whims) or they are doing VI but are really, really bad at it....like watch american idol sometimes. see those people who show up thinking they're going to win the contest only to find that they have the worst singing voice in the room, that's socionenneagram.

    As I said everybody but me entangles multiple VI templates into each type/subtype. The above is a perfect example.

    Socionix's VI templates were better than the rest during its time (before Socionics New Wave ever came onto the scene), and should remain there as a benchmark for a step in the right direction but still has structural, logical, conceptual flaws, not nearly to the level of structural, logical, conceptual flaws that plague socionenneagram, sociotypes or typometrics.

    Stackemup Typology (Socionics)'s VI templates just takes VI to the next level in its structural, logical, conceptually flawless breakdown....its like, ya know, when a person does rubiks' cube and finally gets each side uniform, its over. I cracked the valid VI Templates for each type and subtype and as they say, the rest is history.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, and children of all ages, watch as I now proceed to deconstruct sociotypes' Aushra-based VI template for SLE-Ti.

    They wanted to draw first blood. I will now eat up all of sociotypes' exemplars by fitting each one into my VI templates.

    Let's see how well sociotypes' aushra-based VI template for "SLE-Ti" stacks up against the best VI templates in the world for every socionics type and subtype. Not very well as you will soon see.

    The Only Valid VI Templates for Socionics New Wave aka Stackemup Typology (Socionics-Side) EATS UP sociotypes' so-called "SLE-Ti" exemplars.

    This is the correct and accurate typings for each of sociotypes' make believe SLE-Ti exemplars, as follows:

    Tom Felton, David Carradine, Tim Blake Nelson: LIE-Te (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/lie-te/)
    Evan Rachel Wood: IEI-Fe (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iei-fe/)
    Winona Ryder: SEI-Si (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sei-si/)
    Jason Momoa: SLI-Si (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sli-si/)
    Rutger Hauer, Anthony Hopkins, Jerome Flynn, Meryl Streep: EII-Fi: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/eii-fi/
    David Bowie: EIE-Ni (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/eie-ni/)
    Madonna: SLE-Se (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sle-se/)
    Sharon Stone, Sasha Gray, Lucy Lawless: SEE-Fi (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/see-fi/)

    I just ate up sociotypes' "SLE-Ti" exemplars in like ten minutes.
    Watch the interviews for these people as well...all obviously not SLE-Ti
    My VI templates are far more crisp, tigher, sharper and accurate.
    sociotypes got one actual SLE (Madonna)! but even still, came out with the wrong subtype, and Madonna is an obvious one.
    So much for Sociotypes' Aushra-based VI templates....aka Fake Socionics

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    Clearly, my VI templates are superior to sociotypes' aushra-based VI templates.

    These are SLE-Ti: Donald Trump, Ernest Hemingway, Mike Tyson, John Gotti, Huey Long, Jimmy Hoffa, Lyle Alzado, La China, John Dillinger, Taco Bowman, Lenny McClean, Xie Caipingz, Don Arden, Mickey Cohen, GG Allin, Connor McGregor, Carmine Galante, Charles Bronson (UK Prisoner), Ty Cobbz

    These are not SLE-Ti: Wynona Ryder, Meryl Streep, Sasha Gray, Evan Rachel Wood, Tim Blake Nelson, Anthony Hopkins, Tom Felton, demi moore, rutger hauer, Jason Momoa, David Carradine, Sharon Stone

    The "are SLE-Ti" group are not accepting of Fi and fit all aspects of Model A's cognitive markers for SLE. They all have Fi Polr.

    The "are not SLE-Ti" group are clearly accepting of Fi and do not fit all aspects of Model A's cognitive markers for SLE. None have Fi Polr. I mean, winona ryder, come on...get real. Only in science fiction...

    Like I wrote in the viewpoints section under the Core Primer thread, my VI templates "are high-quality, time-tested, time-proof valid VI templates that completely demolish Aushra and Socionics.com's VI templates in terms of quality and practicality (Russian socionists have been trying to develop top notch VI templates for decades). I beat 'em to it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Clearly, my VI templates are superior to sociotypes' aushra-based VI templates.
    It seems that, you do not have the slightest clue about typology.

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    I've been getting some questions about this so let me clear it up now, I never sanctioned sociotypes to use the phrase that I coined, "VI Templates."

    sociotypes pinterest does not belong to American Socionics. American Socionics consists of Smilexian Socionics, Socionix, and Stackemup Typology (socionics side) aka socionics new wave.

    I also got word that sociotypes pinterest page is not related in any way to ww.sociotype.com.]

    Where do you think sociotypes pinterest got the part of its introduction referring to "VI templates" from.

    The introduction on my pinterest page reads:

    "Here are the VI templates for each socionic type (plus subtype) Visit pinterest.com/stackemupennea for Stackemup Typology's breakdown for the enneagram types."

    sociotypes pinterest reads:

    "VI templates for each subtype. Register so you can view all the galleries. Regularly revised and updated."

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    The big difference between me and "sociotype," aside from their horrendous typings, is they have to "regularly revise" their VI templates and typings. (also sociotypes really, really wants people to follow them). I invite people to visit and peruse but I don't say 'please join...please register...i promise to update.' [One pinterest user told me they received a PM from sociotype trying to 'recruit' them into following the pinterest page ..lol]

    Let me be clear. They are not associated with Stackemup Typology. This is a copy cat. VI templates is a Stackemup Typology trademark. Due to Stackemup Typology's dominance over the typological multi-verse, sociotypes pinterest is using my trademark in the hopes of attracting followers, because people in the typology community read "VI templates" and assume its affiliated with Stackemup Typology.

    nobody visit or follow the sociotypes pinterest page because using Stackemup Typology's trademark (VI Templates) is not a productive way to build up followers -- even though the page wouldn't have had 40 followers if they had not used Stackemup Typology's trademark, much less sent around private messages trying to recruit people into following them.

    It also says right there in the title (see above screenshot) "regularly revised." This need to regularly revise reflects on the low quality of their so-called templates. I already demonstrated that pretty much every typing in the SLE-Ti section is wrong. I could do it for the remaining sections. At the most, they just combined a bunch of my VI templates....the true and real VI templates.

    Obviously they are not using the real VI templates, and it took me one post to demonstrate that. That's why they have to "regularly revise" theirs.

    "Regularly revise", as in, the person doesn't know what the hell they are doing

    "Regularly Revised", as in , the person is still trying to figure things out, still in the process of discovering the only valid VI templates for every socionics type and subtype - that Stackemup Typology (socionics-side) has already discovered and charted out - and "regularly revised" as in still trying to work through logical, conceptual, and structural flaws.

    We can't take any of their typings seriously because that pinterest page continually changes its typings around.

    i've got it from a good source that the sociotypes pinterest changed over a hundred typings around in the last three weeks. One follower cites that entire templates are constantly being shifted around and that at least half of the people typed LII had different typings a month ago.

    That's insanity.

    I've never had to "regularly revise" mine. If you have to "regularly revise" your VI templates and/or typings, then that's the result of pervasive logical, conceptual and structural flaws.

    Obviously sociotypes pinterest page knows that its typings are mostly wrong and that its VI templates are poor, but it wants you to stick around so that they can try to spend endless time revising it another 5,000 times. Give 'em five years. They're just on the third draft.

    My VI templates have been the same since day one. I had it all worked out when I put my templates up years ago. I've said it a 1000 times. I cracked the only valid VI templates for every socionics type and subtype. Mine are logically, conceptually, structurally flawless.

    Obviously whoever is responsible for this board not only uses my typings, uses and combines my VI templates under the label of different types, but also copied the phrase I coined "VI template".

    That's why they have followers. At least three of their followers confused it with Stackemup Typology. Probably a lot of them did. Maybe the rest confused them with sociotype .com.

    sociotypes pinterest page is definitely one to cross off your visiting list.

    Nobody was ever talking about "VI templates" before me, and anybody who has been posting on this board knows that. That's not the kind of thing people come up with on their own unless they are me or doing an imitation of me. This is an imitation the likes of which has never been seen before on this board, until now. It could very well be that Stackemup Typology gave this person the desire to start the pinterest page in the first place. As I said in the past, I'm sometimes imitated, but never duplicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    don't really feel like writing here anymore
    The best news is that you've remove T type from the profile.

    In case you are interested in the truth, but not only typing game, then use behavioral VI with videobloggers to make new list. It's better method for famouses and easier ones to be typed. While those who do not have videos are doubtful to be typed correctly at all, as people of far past. You may create higher quality list by following this.

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    Now that I ate up www.pinterest.com/sociothief's so called "SLE-Ti exemplars" its time to run typometrics purported SLE-Ti exemplars through Stackemup Typology (Socionics)'s side's VI template for SLE-Ti. Let's see how they fare. Not too good. MY VI Template for SLE-Ti easily dominates, eats up and devours typometric's so-called "SLE-Ti exemplars."

    Jesse Stoffer: SEI-Fe (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sei-fe/)
    Charlie Sheen: SEI-Fe
    *clearly these two better fit the VI template which has gene simmons, michael franti and johnny depp...
    -not to mention that Charlie Sheen is just too stupid to be Ti-creative.

    Robert Downey Jr.: EIE-Ni (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/eie-ni/)
    -obviously a better fit...the drug addict everybody loves and a 'mass seducer.' so not SLE-Ti

    Ryan Reynolds: IEE-Fi (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-fi/)
    Edward Norton: IEE-Fi
    Jeff Wittek: IEE-Fi
    Leonardo DiCaprio: IEE-Fi
    I could beat all four of these guys up at once. They're pussies. Literally, I could snap them in two. They are built like twigs. They have no natural physical strength whatsoever. My forearms are thicker than their legs. I'm a goddamned pitbull. They're puppies. I'm a man's man. Those guys are half-broad. Granted, most of the above IEE-Fis have played SLEs in the movies but are not SLEs in real life. They have too much range as actors and obviously none of these people are Zhukovs -- they simply wouldn't have it on a battlefield to be the go to guy for missions that require ruthless execution. they're pretty boys and physically ectomorphic. Sles don't have pretty faces, are not into physical body aesthetics and all that gay shit and do not make good actors because they're aggressive, so tend to be combative with producers and other actors. SLEs don't gravitate towards acting because acting is not fulfilling since its not real...a SLE would rather punch somebody in the face than have to pretend to punch somebody in the face.

    Colin Farrell: SEI-Si (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sei-si/)
    -He's all talk. He's a fckin' pussy.

    Ted Turner: LSI-Se (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/lsi-se/ -look at the VI with Mike Pence)
    [at this point you know that typometrics VI template for SLE-Ti is so broad as not to matter if they can come out with Ted Turner and Leo DiCaprio as falling under the same VI.]

    Alex Jones: ILE-Ne (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/ile-ne/)
    the guy is off the hook Ne-lead...i mean, he's a symphony of intuition.

    Donald Trump: SLE-Ti (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sle-ti/)
    Atleast they now have this one right.

    Joe Rogan: SLI-Si (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sli-si/)
    -classic SLI meathead...SLIs also tend to be genuinely tough but not quite as consistent in forcing confrontation

    Frank Sinatra: SEE-Fi (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/see-fi/)
    -He had way too much interpersonal charisma for SLE-Ti. He could just look at a woman in his audience while he was singing, and she would melt.
    -He's all about love...look at some of his songs. There's NO FUCKIN WAY SINATRA IS FI POLR. FI-CREATIVE AS FUCK.

    Ryan Gosling: ESI-Fi (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/esi-fi/)
    -Gosling's face is just too outright weak and pathetic-looking for a SLE-Ti. He's got a face like a broad.
    -My ESI-Fi template fits so much better.

    Joe Biden: LSE-Si (https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/lse-si/)
    -no way dementia Joe the creepy molester is SLE-Ti...look at him vegging out on his Si-creative, still hiding in his basement, peeping out every now and then and look how long it took him to respond to that woman who he sexually molested, and how clean his response was...rather than call her a liar, Biden played it in a manner to cause the least amount of friction and disharmony, which he is always doing (that's Si-Creative in spades)...furthermore, look how much time Biden lost since coronavirus that he could have been really hammering dummy trump on dummy trump's complete fumbling of the pandemic. moreover, the Bidenz has too many white knight positions for a SLE...SLEs have more asshole positions when it comes to their political stances. Biden is always putting his "gay empathetic look at what a white knight I am" on display. That's how LSE seeks Fi...by advocating strongly for 'pussy' political positions.

    This one is not as bad as sociothief's "SLE-Ti" list but its not good.
    I ALREADY CRACKED THE VI TEMPLATES FOR EVERY SOCIONICS TYPE AND SUBTYPE!
    The best anybody can do is replicate my results.
    Stackemup Typology is the most dominant force in typology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    a Socionics options was added

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I looked at this gif and thought "An EII disappointed that some guy just doesn't get it." Then I discovered that this is Ann Hathaway.
    This is actually a good idea. Why isn't there a gif gallery? Especially relevant to such reactions. Gamma facial expressions can be fun to see. I can open a thread about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    here's my gallery

    http://soziotypen.de/bekannte-persoenlichkeiten/

    should be easily accessible for non-german speakers too. right now I have around 400 examples.
    >1000 examples. now working with gulenko and his team (which are almost all creative subtypes). fun times.
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    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

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    Winona Ryder might have been a mistyping. I had looked at her as a very down trodden SLE and def look back at her in her younger years during the 90s. Plus a well known foumite SLE told me Ryder was SLE, so I ran with it.

    The other typings taken from me is fine. I don't need the credit all the time for my ideas borrowed.

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    A lot of these sources contradict one another, there is also always an odd one here and there that doesn't seem to make sense. Despite that VI is still useful, knowing facial expressions and body language is useful to gain insight into someone's personality. It is used in life outside of socionics all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toro View Post
    A lot of these sources contradict one another, there is also always an odd one here and there that doesn't seem to make sense. Despite that VI is still useful, knowing facial expressions and body language is useful to gain insight into someone's personality. It is used in life outside of socionics all the time.
    I think it's just very difficult to get a consensus. the only actual productive idea would be a collaborative project, but 5 people will never agree on a person's type, because there are just too many variables like functional accentuations and different understandings of what a type is. you could introduce specific rules so that type suggestions need to have a certain level of accuracy but you're just gonna lose all creative subtypes with that and most people don't have the time and patience for it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I think it's just very difficult to get a consensus. the only actual productive idea would be a collaborative project, but 5 people will never agree on a person's type, because there are just too many variables like functional accentuations and different understandings of what a type is. you could introduce specific rules so that type suggestions need to have a certain level of accuracy but you're just gonna lose all creative subtypes with that and most people don't have the time and patience for it anyway.
    I remember Gulenko saying that sensors are better suited for visual identification methods since they are more apt to pick up on subtle visual cues. I think VI typing belongs in the same category of "body language analysis" that is used law enforcement interrogations.

    Along with body movement, experts use facial expressions, voice quality, and speech content to decode what people are thinking, Dr. Glass says. "When you have all these codes of communication, then you see the whole picture, and you can make accurate analyses," she says. At a time when politicians seem shady, and celebrity drama is juicier than ever, it's no wonder people flock to body language experts to explain the world around us.
    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/wha...anguage-expert

    Body language experts are common and accepted in other fields, but VI in socionics is still challenged by some. With both I think its more an art than a science, funnily enough the article I linked says something similar about body language reading.

    But what you might not understand is that body language analysis is a science and an art that requires education and an immense understanding of human behavior.
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    Yes Se leads/creatives would have better use of VI. I find facial features helpful but can be misleading sometimes.

    BTW Trump is not SLE. He's a (definitely twisted but also somewhat idealistic) gamma extrovert (more likely SEE) who's pretending to be SLE, maybe because he really sympathizes with/believes in beta values, or he wants to get more beta votes. Possibly both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toro View Post
    I remember Gulenko saying that sensors are better suited for visual identification methods since they are more apt to pick up on subtle visual cues. I think VI typing belongs in the same category of "body language analysis" that is used law enforcement interrogations.



    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/wha...anguage-expert

    Body language experts are common and accepted in other fields, but VI in socionics is still challenged by some. With both I think its more an art than a science, funnily enough the article I linked says something similar about body language reading.
    I don't find body language all that helpful when typing celebrities or historical figures, but what you can observe is manner of speech and facial expressions. are the eyes focused on the surrounding, expressive, curious, does the person speak in a fast and precise manner, do they not think or pause all that much between sentences etc. that points to extroversion, but it's not a common trait among harmonizing extroverts. for introverts: are the eyes unfocused, looking to the side or the bottom, is there a slower manner of speech, more pauses etc. might not apply to dominant subtypes

    Quote Originally Posted by Vis View Post
    BTW Trump is not SLE. He's a (definitely twisted but also somewhat idealistic) gamma extrovert (more likely SEE) who's pretending to be SLE, maybe because he really sympathizes with/believes in beta values, or he wants to get more beta votes. Possibly both.
    this will just derail the thread tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    this will just derail the thread tbh
    I'll behave and not respond to challenges then

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    It's probably better to be thankful for every typing gallery that exists anyway. It's quite a lot of time to research these types, unless you just make vague guesses based on physical appearances, but even then it's probably still better to have an inaccurate gallery so people have something to compare. I don't really agree with many of kill4me's typings but It's still in interesting gallery to look at. I'm surprised he does it considering there's no money to be made

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    Found this a few minutes ago , it doesn't type celebrates but have VI templates of each Subtype

    https://pin.it/55WhizR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    It's quite a lot of time to research these types, unless you just make vague guesses based on physical appearances
    To suppose types not by unreasonable physiognomy but by intuitive-nonverbal method is not much longer.
    For famouses nonverbal behavior is good as main data, as there is no quality data about common behavior (big questionnaire, good knowing someone personally).
    Most people are supposed to identify types taking into account nonverbal data too. It was so from the beginning, as exists in Augustinavichiute's texts.

    > but even then it's probably still better to have an inaccurate gallery so people have something to compare

    Such lists have higher than accidental accuracy (up to ~40%) so have some use, in general. If someone uses physiognomy and not behavior - the accuracy should be lower.
    Unlike with videos, photo galleries have much lesser usefulness, - mainly easier to remember examples. Only for physiognomy users a single photo may have good use. For nonverbal, in common, photos can be useful when there are many (tens and more) of them made in different situations.

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