Last edited by Reyne; 04-03-2020 at 07:19 PM.
you can type people when they are 3 years old. I think there's enough information to type her.
an english interview with her. "I'm a realist, I see facts"
she doesn't want to go to school because climate change is threatening our very existence, and it doesn't seem like we are even remotely capable of preventing it. I find Greta extremly inspiring, and it's sad that this young and intelligent girl is one of the few ray of hopes for this planet.
this is not an international socionics institute. I don't see a problem talking about the type of a public figure on an obscure website.
She doesn't show any emotions
because is her vulnerable function
or because she has Aspergers?
Intuitive type, anyway.
Good grief I wanted to be the one to start the nihilism here about politics.
The puppeteering that happens is clear however it raises something important: why person does this and are they blind to it and is the attention and treatment enough to make them believe in it even harder or does the person see an opportunity here [she gets the fame and as a result it takes you a long way]? Well, the analogy here is religion. It is a mass thing and only the person itself can answer it. When the perspective starts to shift and can who can break off when benefits are too good or the risk seems too great?
This is not in anyway my take on climate change.
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One of the deeper issues (in the world right now) is fear which is what a good psychologist could probably help those who are fearful of the unfamiliar and experiencing anxiety in relation to it with. It goes beyond anything this forum is capable of dealing with. If they would like to express their fears more in depth they are free to post about them in other areas of the forum where people who are interested in debating or commiserating with them will surely show up.
Most typing threads go off topic here but if no one responds then it doesn't get out of control. Some off topic stuff does relate to the typing of the person in question. I am not familiar with the subject of this thread. If you feel people are posting off topic you can direct them to post in another thread that deals with the topic, create their own, or ignore them.
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She seems to have no issue with influencing others or applying emotional pressure in order to attain a goal, and tries to unite people around this goal. This is the purpose Hamlets have in society, for better or worse.
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I'll check out the interview later, as I am interested in what she has to say as she's far from stupid.Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
Still, I think she is not very wise, like many radicals who push for immediate action without thinking of the consequences. All she sees is the climate, and she seems to reject certain facts (despite what she claims) for example, how dependent our civilization is on fossil fuels (for better or worse) and that cutting our carbon emissions in half in ten years (which to her is not radical enough) would be a catastrophe that will lead to economic recessions, which will inevitably lead to the rise of the far right and ethno-nationalism all across the world. A small recession like 2008 is responsible for the rise of populism everywhere, albeit indirectly, from Trump to Brexit to Bolsonaro, and a carbon tax in France lead to political instability in France, just imagine how much of a catastrophe cutting carbon emissions by that much would be, it would rive up costs of production and living which would have a destabilizing effect. I'm not saying climate change is not an important issue, don't read me wrong here, it is but there is no "easy" solution here. It seems an ILI would be aware of this, ILIs are more likely to be labelled as 'apathetic' when it comes to politics especially in times like these because of their fear of radical solutions, which Greta is not.
"I'll check out the interview later, as I am interested in what she has to say as she's far from stupid."
I personally think that she's highly gifted.
I agree with that about ILIs, however ILIs are often not the ones to stand up in front of the world in the name of a cause, either. EIEs are more likely to do this. IME, an ILI is likely to hold their opinions and emotions in much of the time (unless they are in a more intimate setting), they are not very likely to be the voice of a cause.Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
Yes, but I think many people accept this. But why her in to stand in front of the world and say it? This is not just stating known facts, there is something more, something I associate with EIEs and their tendency to rally people to towards a course of action. I don't think EIEs are unaware of facts, some of them are very smart and gifted beyond their peers, I have seen it myself. I'm just saying I don't think ILI would find themsleves her role, even ILIs who would agree with her proposed course of action. Personally I'm skeptical of it (or at least, that it is the best course of action) , though I do agree that the situation does not look good no matter what we do. But this is a topic for another thread.Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
I wouldn't doubt it.Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
I feel like clarifying because I feel my last response does not express my views in toto.
My thoughts can be summarized in two points.
1. She says in the interview you posted (which I am about halfway through) that she does not have doubts. She "knows what needs to be done". This does not seem consistent with ILI who are often internally doubting their own conclusions, even if they externally assert them sometimes.
2. Like I said above, I don't think ILI would find themselves in this position. I get she had no intent to start a movement, she just wanted to get people talking about this issue, but this to me shows there is a desire to influence people (which she says wants to do) despite not wanting to start any kind of organized movement.
It is not unreasonable to think ILI however, as she describes herself as disliking "small talk", "shy", and says she "doesn't say much". This might point to introversion at least. I still think EIE is the best fit, she's just a heavy Ni subtype which accentuates shyness and "introversion" to an extent. Saying she is a realist and looks at facts seems pretty gamma, I will concede that.
She says she has autism.
I think its hilarous how she's such a big deal abroad, when people don't realize the back story. Her mom released a book on the environment and pimped her out with the help of her friend who is this big shot pr-dude. Basically using her autistic child to profit on the environmental hype.
Her parents are quite pathetic. I guess it is a liberal way dealing with a problem, playing the victim card and what a wombo, combo an autistic child.
I support her to some extent, but this whole thing is truly sad story
Even if the problem had a basis in science, even then it would still be pimping. She's a child and as advertised, with a disability and her mother decided to use this in a pr campaign. What part of that do you not consider pimping?
edit: re-read your post and I got your point. You consider pimping justified as long as you are on the right side.
She is my identical. I was very much like that as a kid. I was not talking all the time about the environment. She is an introvert, logical, intuitive, so that means she is either LII/ILI.
why is none talking about how billie eilish, bobby brown, justin bieber, britney spears aguilera timberlake rihanna miley cyrus dakota fanning holsens harry potters etc have been pimped out just to sell some pop songs, pop movies, pop shit?
why is everyone complaining when legit causes are brought up? i guess truth hurts...
she just seems to be saying what everyone has been saying all these years
I didn't however finish the video, so maybe she got to that later. Good at Fe, can really pull on the heart-strings, and the dramatic pauses, she knows how to use Fe very well.
Maybe that is Fe in a raw sense, but it makes Fe look really shitty if that's the case lol. The climate change activists personally lose me and alienate me when they say things like that. ie never forgive, how dare you, my future is at stake.' If you want to get somebody to care about something we should ideally all care about since we all must live on the planet - I don't see the point in emotionally attacking people or saying emotionally edgy things just so gullible people will give you an applause. I am much more persuaded by people who can be logically cool or if they use their emotions they do it inspire others rather than tear others down but that's just me I guess. I think that with power hungry 'world leader' people you might do have to say things like that to get them to listen because they are hard wired to only pay attention to 'power' anyway. What makes her think world leaders will even fix things tho. I don't see much of anything being fixed by them, like at all- why would climate be any different.
I was just at Holly Marie Combs twitter page where she is talking about similar issues, and instead of making me care for about the environment I just think 'god what an obnoxious spoiled bitch.' Perhaps that is too unfair on my part but the way she goes about it doesn't really make me interested in it or want to save the world or anything. It just feels like some fake society thing she's doing to improve her own narcissistic career....and to get other equally duplicitous people to agree with her for some other image enhancing thing.
it's clear that she focuses a lot on data and science, more than the average person. how are people saying that she's good at using Fe when she has the same stoic facial expression >90 of the time. it's really weird to me when people see a strong use of Fe when I see her as a type with Fe as vulnerable function, but different opinions I guess.
IEE rarely take sides, though.
"IEEs are naturally sensitive to mood, atmosphere, and feelings. They rarely say or do anything that would worsen people's feelings, preferring instead to distance themselves from people and social situations that produce negative feelings. IEEs are naturally skilled at regulating the degree of emotional intimacy between people, which can mean being businesslike (yet polite) as well as warm and inviting."
I don't see that in Greta at all.
she will probably type herself soon
For all we know, we don't know what her actual logical ability is like. She may use logic in other situations that we don't know of. Or she may use or develop logical abilities later.
It doesn't matter though, because we are capable of being both logical and emotional at the same time. It's not a matter of being either logical or emotional. It's just a matter of how we want to use either logic or emotions, depending on situations or choices that we make.
she's a little weirdo and people are more used to see hyper-sexualized kids with no contents than a weirdo with strong opinions... what a sad world.