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    - Study and love of philosophy and literature
    - A near obsession with luxury brands, and various status objects (to the point of buying such objects off auctions etc)
    - A very studious character, putting a lot of effort in school
    - Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (pretty much in all its variants)
    - Obsession with creating/having own style and aesthetics/ smth molded to their personality
    - Very giving, very caring, the sort of person you can cry to if your bf dumped you or some such, or someone to discuss the more existential aspects of life/context
    - Very gentle, quite soft spoken
    - has stated feeling 'misunderstood' on several occasions and by several people
    - very quick to grasp the political and socio-economic context of another, their upbringing, their 'where they come from' so to speak
    - extreme draw towards people who are very very (but very) social and who have huge social networks and/ or are quite high up, so to speak (high up could be many things, but im just trying to give a rough idea of an inclination).
    - the above notwithstanding, gives the impression of a very deep person (and imo is such person)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    - Study and love of philosophy and literature
    - A near obsession with luxury brands, and various status objects (to the point of buying such objects off auctions etc)
    - A very studious character, putting a lot of effort in school
    - Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (pretty much in all its variants)
    - Obsession with creating/having own style and aesthetics/ smth molded to their personality
    - Very giving, very caring, the sort of person you can cry to if your bf dumped you or some such, or someone to discuss the more existential aspects of life/context
    - Very gentle, quite soft spoken
    - has stated feeling 'misunderstood' on several occasions and by several people
    - very quick to grasp the political and socio-economic context of another, their upbringing, their 'where they come from' so to speak
    - extreme draw towards people who are very very (but very) social and who have huge social networks and/ or are quite high up, so to speak (high up could be many things, but im just trying to give a rough idea of an inclination).
    - the above notwithstanding, gives the impression of a very deep person (and imo is such person)
    Thanks!
    These points mostly match my own impression of EIEs. They have individual differences; some are very religious, others almost verbally aggressive, then there are those who are very lyrical and those who are more technically inclined. Some like luxury products but I would rather claim that they have their own taste which can be flamboyant or the other way around. I think their mood or state of health decides what kind of clothing they wear.

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    - Very giving, very caring, the sort of person you can cry to
    - Very gentle, quite soft spoken

    no

    the rest mb
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I'm thinking of the two adult EIEs ive known best, who were both bosses at work, so I've only known so much about them. One fe subtype (asshole) another ni subtype (cool guy). I bolded what applies to both of them, as far as I can tell, italicized what only applies to one of them, crossed out what definitely doesn't apply (noting that they have been bosses to me), and left the others normal.

    - Study and love of philosophy and literature
    - A near obsession with luxury brands, and various status objects (to the point of buying such objects off auctions etc)
    - A very studious character, putting a lot of effort in school
    - Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (pretty much in all its variants)
    - Obsession with creating/having own style and aesthetics/ smth molded to their personality
    - Very giving, very caring, the sort of person you can cry to if your bf dumped you or some such, or someone to discuss the more existential aspects of life/context
    - Very gentle, quite soft spoken

    - has stated feeling 'misunderstood' on several occasions and by several people
    - very quick to grasp the political and socio-economic context of another, their upbringing, their 'where they come from' so to speak
    - extreme draw towards people who are very very (but very) social and who have huge social networks and/ or are quite high up, so to speak (high up could be many things, but im just trying to give a rough idea of an inclination).
    - the above notwithstanding, gives the impression of a very deep person (and imo is such person)

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    It's definitely possible for an EIE to be gentle and soft spoken, and there are good examples, but the "stereotypical" EIE is the exact opposite of meek and humble.

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    I dont know

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    EIEs can be caring but not in the traditional sense, they are more likely to cover up the caring with jokes or bad-assery. I don't think they are very caring in the more pure 'shy cute helpless' way that SEI/IEI/EIIs portray better. Some female EIEs tho can be really nurturing cuz strong biological urges based on gender often trumps type in a sense. But they are still EIEs.. they just won't be as over the top as the males lol.

    - extreme draw towards people who are very very (but very) social and who have huge social networks and/ or are quite high up, so to speak (high up could be many things, but im just trying to give a rough idea of an inclination).
    Eh sounds more like SEE...

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    EIEs usually aren't very studious

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    My impression is that they can become pretty obsessed over some things. Let it be philosophy even mathematics or something else. Hence the variety what they do can be quite stark.

    Anyway, according to Gulenko they can become mentally quite preoccupied by something generating a person who is always on and unsure of lots of things wanting clarity (Ej temperament + Ti suggestive).
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    I'm pretty sure IEIs are more likely to become obsessed with mathematics, philosophy, logic etc. At least gaining an understanding of it, not so much developing theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    I'm pretty sure IEIs are more likely to become obsessed with mathematics, philosophy, logic etc. At least gaining an understanding of it, not so much developing theories.
    They really have troubles with seized static logical analysis being Ip temperament. Ej temperament has 4D static acess.
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    @Delilah, based on three male EIEs and one female:


    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    - Study and love of philosophy and literature
    I've never met an EIE who actively dealt with philosophy but I know one who studied History, another Computer Science and a third one studies applied geosciences (and is in a relationship with an LSI who studies something with psychology - I didn't ask. The female EIE studies geosciences). However Jordan Peterson, who's EIE imo, is into philosophy. And I think Nietzsche and this guy* are good examples, too.


    - A near obsession with luxury brands, and various status objects (to the point of buying such objects off auctions etc)
    The men not so much. The woman has the same bag in six different colors. Her wardrobe is full of clothes she never wears because her taste changes often and radically. She doesn't look for luxury brands but prefers dresses that have a lot of glitter, gold, jewelry and other decorative elements. However she only wears such things on special occasions. On all other days she is too busy with her studies to think about her appearance.


    - A very studious character, putting a lot of effort in school
    Don't know about the three men, but the female EIE often complains about how much she has to study. But when I ask her what she did the past few weeks she says that she was so stressed that she could only watch Netflix and sleep. I hear contradicting stories. Her notes are tidy and as a rule she passes all her exams.


    - Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (pretty much in all its variants)
    I guess. Extreme example would be Marilyn Manson.


    - Obsession with creating/having own style and aesthetics/ smth molded to their personality
    Yes. But wouldn't call it an obsession. Neither is much into aesthetics of their surroundings (beyond a sense of orderliness or status maybe but not practicality) and some have wild dreams about owing large mansions later in live that they can never actually take care of without paid cleaners, gardeners etc. It's hard to grasp for me. Their style is baroque. Definitely Baroque and nobility** but nothing that screams for attention. Their houses may have traces of that, like sculptures in the garden or at the front door.


    - Very giving, very caring, the sort of person you can cry to if your bf dumped you or some such, or someone to discuss the more existential aspects of life/context
    - Very gentle, quite soft spoken
    Yes.


    - has stated feeling 'misunderstood' on several occasions and by several people
    yes. The female EIE starts to limp all of a sudden. In the way that the rest of the dialogue requires you to ask "What's wrong with you, honey?" so that she can start talking about how hard the past days have been. She will stop limping soon after.
    The men start venting, as if they need advice but really don't want any. They need someone who listens to them complaining it appears.


    - very quick to grasp the political and socio-economic context of another, their upbringing, their 'where they come from' so to speak
    - extreme draw towards people who are very very (but very) social and who have huge social networks and/ or are quite high up, so to speak (high up could be many things, but im just trying to give a rough idea of an inclination).
    Haven't spent enough time with them to say anything about that.


    - the above notwithstanding, gives the impression of a very deep person (and imo is such person)
    Thanks!
    Wouldn't say they appear more complex than other people (, to me).


    *this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x9-Y9RpqBY @Luminous Lynx, looks like you?
    ** they describe their taste like this https://i.pinimg.com/564x/1a/1b/17/1...bb2a5564fe.jpg
    and this https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7a/0a/2b/7...bc86aff880.jpg maybe a bit less kitsch though. One male prefered rosť colors and the woman liked purple and black but changed that for white and green some two years ago.
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    Chiming in to say that I'm a manslut for baroque and rococo.

    Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baboooshka View Post
    Chiming in to say that I'm a manslut for baroque and rococo.

    Carry on.
    You must be EIE then. That's the rules now

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    After reading Theodore Millon's description of Histrionic personality disorder it is probably ̣- according to the caricature (other types can fulfill the criteria as well) - unhealthy EIE.



    Fits in quite well with few EIE's I know if they go to extreme. These people are not disordered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    You must be EIE then. That's the rules now
    Typing by architectural style preference is the new sensation sweeping the nation.

    Alpha - brutalism, art nouveau, whatevertheshit Gaudi was into (?)
    Beta - Baroque, gothic, rococo
    Gamma - ???
    Delta - timber everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baboooshka View Post
    Typing by architectural style preference is the new sensation sweeping the nation.

    Alpha - brutalism, art nouveau, whatevertheshit Gaudi was into (?)
    Beta - Baroque, gothic, rococo
    Gamma - ???
    Delta - timber everywhere
    alpha

    Beta

    Gamma

    delta
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    Fitting for Delta architecture to have a lot of wood in it. Let them remain untouched in their peaceful Hobbit-like worlds

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    The beta house would be nice without all the tacky gaudy stuff.

    So true about the alpha house. Notice it too is filled with tacky shit.

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    Taken as a whole? Yes, the impression does seem EIE, or IEI. In particular the parts about feeling misunderstood and status objects.

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    Baroque is alpha af

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