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    Default Expanded IM's (+/-) and music

    So I've attempted to match each expanded IM to a musical score, with the aim of developing understanding of the theory outlined here. Try to pay attention not so much to the lyrics (but they can also be relevant if present), but to the overall vibe that the song transmits. I've tried to get examples as "pure" as possible (since most music is a combination of various IM's at the same time). Remember that:

    +Fi - Delta Fi
    -Fi - Gamma Fi

    +Fe - Beta Fe
    -Fe - Alpha Fe

    +Ti - Beta Ti
    -Ti - Alpha Ti

    +Te - Delta Te
    -Te - Gamma Te

    +Se - Gamma Se
    -Se - Beta Se

    +Ni - Gamma Ni
    -Ni - Beta Ni

    +Ne - Alpha Ne
    -Ne - Delta Ne

    +Si - Alpha Si
    -Si - Delta Si

    And they are combined in the following manner (meaning the IM is actually a combination of both +/-, introverted/extroverted elements, and neighboring quadras share/value the combined element, although giving precedence (normally) to the valued particular expanded IM).

    Code:
    -Se/+Si
    +Se/-Si
    -Te/+Ti
    +Te/-Ti
    -Ni/+Ne
    +Ni/-Ne
    -Fe/+Fi
    +Fe/-Fi

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    +Fi


    -Fi


    +Fe


    -Fe

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    +Ti


    -Ti


    +Te



    -Te

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    +Se


    -Se


    +Si


    -Si

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    +Ni


    -Ni


    +Ne


    -Ne

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    -Fi with +Fi




    +Se with + Ni (and some -Te)

    Last edited by mclane; 08-29-2019 at 04:30 PM.

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    I enjoyed this thread, wonder why there's been no replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairda View Post
    I enjoyed this thread, wonder why there's been no replies.
    I mostly post stuff on this subforum for the lurkers, in case somebody from some institute in ukraine or russia etc is researching this stuff, in case they decide to roll with it.

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    -Fe with +Fe (and some +Se)


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    +Ti with +Fi and +Ni:


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    You definitely got everything that has Se in it right. Especially Fe+Se for the Skyrim theme. It's one of my faves!!

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    -Ni with +Si (and some +Fi/-Fe)


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    Pure +Ne/+Ni



    Gremlins are the quintessence of +Ne

    ETA: I think they are also -Ne (lots of Ne), and -Se (except Gizmo. Gizmo being the only good gremlin is probably EII).
    Last edited by mclane; 09-25-2019 at 05:49 PM.

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    +Se:


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    +Fi and -Fi:



    (this is a very Fi music)

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    -Si



    This is death metal. Anything related to "death" has to do with the -Si element. It belongs to the Delta quadra, which is the last quadra of the progression and corresponds to the "old age". Even though this element is introduced in gamma quadra, it peaks in delta quadra. If the music also contains an element of "anger", that is -Fe/+Fi. A "hatred" element; -Fi/+Fe.
    Last edited by mclane; 10-16-2019 at 02:14 AM.

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    Somebody posted this on the shoutbox. It is a great example of LII-Ti music; it combines a -Ti structured element with a +Ne electronic element, under an over-arching +Ni melancholy element. Great track.

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