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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    It is not imo a good method at all, even if i have occasionally indulged in it myself, it is not to be taken seriously. What was your rationale for her being SEE btw?
    "Inasmuch as it is nothing but pure communicability, every face, even the most noble and beautiful, is always suspended on the edge of an abyss"

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    Sure - but so is determining any phenotypical result. It never actually reveals the source.
    Joy and anger, sadness and pleasure, anticipation and regret, fickleness and fixedness, vehemence and indolence, eagerness and tardiness;-- all these moods, like music from an empty tube, or mushrooms from the warm moisture, day and night succeed to one another and come before us, and we do not know whence they sprout. Let us stop! Let us stop! Can we expect to find out suddenly how they are produced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Her movements are always soft and gentle.
    where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle

    she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle

    she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)
    It's not so much about what she does, but how she does it.

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    how does she do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    It is not imo a good method at all, even if i have occasionally indulged in it myself, it is not to be taken seriously. What was your rationale for her being SEE btw?
    like I said, I haven't really analysed her that much. I remember watching an H3H3 video recently where she send Ethan a jar full of her own spit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQscyzNOBNY

    I thought that her behaviour could be linked to Si as vulnerable or surpressed ignoring function, which is linked to sexuality, meaning that types with weak Si (LIE, EIE, SEE and SLE) often display their sexuality openly, or are even prone to perversion, or they have an unhealthy or unorthodox approach to sexuality. I think it applies to belle delphine. from my own observation and various socionics sources it seems that SEE is the type that is most inclined to prostitution, but belle delphine seems to also be a rather strategic and creative person, making me lean more towards EIE (who have Ne as 4 dimensional function). just my 2 cents.

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    no way she's a N, she's just too confident in her own body, makes great use of it, to be a N

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    how does she do it
    Oh my God, go watch the frigging videos!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle

    she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)
    You have a strange definition of 'violence.' I skimmed the video; I don't recall her really mistreating anything. And she never throws anything very hard. Her stuff isn't damaged.

    Plenty of Si doms and non-Se egos do sex work. There are quite a few SEI prostitutes and porn stars especially.
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    Se is about power, dominance, money, body aesthetics; Si is about comfort, caring, body pleasure, body needs.

    no doubts she's oriented toward the first.

    if you can't perceive the violence in her gestures idk what to tell you, perhaps you don't mind it and therefore, no Si valuer.

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    another thing I considered is that she never really completely sells herself. meaning she doesn't do nudes. you could argue that it's a marketing strategy to keep people interested in her, but SEE usually have a very direct approach to their sexuality, while belle delphine tries to keep mysterious and probably cares a lot about her image. that' anothet point that made me lean towards EIE.

    like I said, I don't know much about her personal life and it could probably help with the typing.

    "There are quite a few SEI prostitutes and porn stars especially."

    I doubt that. of course, porn is a huge business and you might find any type there, but saying that there are a lot of SEI prostitutes seems like a stretch.

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    SEI.

    She's also terrible. I'm not mad at her business hustle, tho--people pay big money for a lot of dumb, seemingly useless shit (that obviously has some degree of value for them); tale as old as time.

    SEis are driven to positive aesthetic experiences and all of her activities (bathing, reading books, cooking, eating, playing boring ass games, brushing her teeth) point to a physically relaxed focus on the steady, methodical, flow of the moment as if attempting to achieve optimal internal homeostasis and balance with the external world [Si]; she focuses a lot on "going through the (physical) motions," creatively executed in a way that imparts some emotional resonance (desire, lust) to her intended audience [Fe], that is ordered, structured and categorized by some internal framework that probably makes sense to her even if it doesn't to anyone else [Ti]--she essentially has the same formula that she routinely carries out, and sprinkled with bits of whimsy and novelty [Ne] that is clearly sublimated to her overarching Si program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    like I said, I haven't really analysed her that much. I remember watching an H3H3 video recently where she send Ethan a jar full of her own spit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQscyzNOBNY

    I thought that her behaviour could be linked to Si as vulnerable or surpressed ignoring function, which is linked to sexuality, meaning that types with weak Si (LIE, EIE, SEE and SLE) often display their sexuality openly, or are even prone to perversion, or they have an unhealthy or unorthodox approach to sexuality. I think it applies to belle delphine. from my own observation and various socionics sources it seems that SEE is the type that is most inclined to prostitution, but belle delphine seems to also be a rather strategic and creative person, making me lean more towards EIE (who have Ne as 4 dimensional function). just my 2 cents.
    A) You don't know many SEIs if you think they aren't strategic and creative. They also have higher valued Ti than EIEs, which has more to do with strategy than Ne -- and, anyway, EIEs' Ne is unvalued, meaning it's something they avoid using.

    B) The matter of whether S is connected to sexuality aside, her sexuality is not 'open' in the way you describe. Her entire sexuality is about an impression as an innocent child. She tailors her clothing -- which is less revealing and form-fitting than a typical sex worker's -- and environment to give this holistic sort of impression rather than making use of blunt sexuality and sensuousness itself. She is clearly not an Se ego.

    Also consider her relaxed demeanor. She isn't naturally busy; relaxment and comfort is her natural mode of being, as is common with Si valuers (i.e. the Judicious/Decisive dichotomy). This attitude is strengthened proportionally to Si's valuation. Her entire videos, where she's in her home, she's relaxed, not stressed, and, though active, never truly busy -- sometimes doing light, pleasurable 'work', like cooking, which she probably enjoys a great deal. Compare an SEE's attitude toward getting stuff done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    another thing I considered is that she never really completely sells herself. meaning she doesn't do nudes. you could argue that it's a marketing strategy to keep people interested in her, but SEE usually have a very direct approach to their sexuality, while belle delphine tries to keep mysterious and probably cares a lot about her image. that' anothet point that made me lean towards EIE.

    like I said, I don't know much about her personal life and it could probably help with the typing.

    "There are quite a few SEI prostitutes and porn stars especially."

    I doubt that. of course, porn is a huge business and you might find any type there, but saying that there are a lot of SEI prostitutes seems like a stretch.
    in fact she sells nudes and does porn, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    Social introvert/extrovert has nothing to do with type tho

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    we been know
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    only extroverts get blowjobs lol

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    and intros skullz broken, aye

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    Si is about comfort, caring, body pleasure, body needs.
    And how do you obtain these things? With money of course. So Si cares about money too.

    It's interesting how much faith people put in descriptions. Reality isn't so black or white. There's a lot of overlapping.
    If a type description, of SEI in this case, keeps from mentioning something about the type, it's just to accentuate an artificial distinction from one other type, so as to simplify things. Just like if someone said black people only do rap or soul music, it's just an oversimplification, made in an attempt at clarity.

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    you don't get body comfort with money lol, wtf

    of course everybody cares about money to some extent, if you're ready to sell your ass to get it, though, that's quite a stretch of how much you value money (a lot) and your own well being (not a lot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    It's interesting how much faith people put in descriptions. Reality isn't so black or white. There's a lot of overlapping.
    Same would go for VI, put you obviously put faith into that. Let me guess, the point you're making only goes when it's convenient for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    And how do you obtain these things? With money of course. So Si cares about money too.

    It's interesting how much faith people put in descriptions. Reality isn't so black or white. There's a lot of overlapping.
    If a type description, of SEI in this case, keeps from mentioning something about the type, it's just to accentuate an artificial distinction from one other type, so as to simplify things. Just like if someone said black people only do rap or soul music, it's just an oversimplification, made in an attempt at clarity.
    or maybe you're just intepreting functions in a very wrong way tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    "There are quite a few SEI prostitutes and porn stars especially."

    I doubt that. of course, porn is a huge business and you might find any type there, but saying that there are a lot of SEI prostitutes seems like a stretch.
    Dude. I can't give you any examples because I don't really watch porn, but SEIs are not at all rare in that kind of work. I also used to be semi-friends with an SEI stripper for what that's worth if it'll convince you that SEIs do sex work.

    If you picture any kinda introverted slut (is that word offensive?), she's probably SEI.

    Edit: there are different kinds of sluts of course so to clarify, IEIs are sluts to manipulate the men they sleep with, ESIs fall in lust with different men, one at a time, and SEIs are the school sluts who suck guys' dicks in the bathroom for the sheer pleasure and fun of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    in fact she sells nudes and does porn, lol
    she doesn't do porn as far as I know. I've read several online discussions about her that mention this. or you show me some proof (for... research purposes obviously)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    you don't get body comfort with money lol, wtf

    of course everybody cares about money to some extent, if you're ready to sell your ass to get it, though, that's quite a stretch of how much you value money (a lot) and your own well being (not a lot)
    How exactly does "selling your ass" contradict being Si valuing?

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    all props to typing smn with "she looks cute/disgusting" or "I like her/I don't like her", aye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    How exactly does "selling your ass" contradict being Si valuing?
    you didnt read the full sentence, did u

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    she doesn't do porn as far as I know. I've read several online discussions about her that mention this. or you show me some proof (for... research purposes obviously)
    what about you do your own researches instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Dude. I can't give you any examples because I don't really watch porn, but SEIs are not at all rare in that kind of work. I also used to be semi-friends with an SEI stripper for what that's worth if it'll convince you that SEIs do sex work.

    If you picture any kinda introverted slut (is that word offensive?), she's probably SEI.
    that's anecdotal evidence that doesn't proof anything. and how can I even be sure that you've typed her correctly? and now you can't give me any examples about your claim? might be pointless to argue with you then tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    that's anecdotal evidence that doesn't proof anything. and how can I even be sure that you've typed her correctly? and now you can't give me any examples about your claim? might be pointless to argue with you then tbh.
    true, although typology is very much anecdotal and based on self-report. it's one of the reasons 'typology' will never be accepted by science/actual psychology researchers (and rightly so)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    that's anecdotal evidence that doesn't proof anything. and how can I even be sure that you've typed her correctly? and now you can't give me any examples about your claim? might be pointless to argue with you then tbh.
    She typed herself. I think her typing was accurate.

    Anyway, it's probably pointless to argue about her type, but all I'm saying is to go watch some porn and play spot the SEI. It's really strange to me you think Si types are averse to sex work. SEIs are one of the most common types in it.

    There are also a lot of SEI men in porn now that I think of it. Especially in porn geared more toward women. Passionate, sensual, usually nice, etc., usually focusing on his partner's pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    true, although typology is very much anecdotal and based on self-report. it's one of the reasons 'typology' will never be accepted by science/actual psychology researchers (and rightly so)
    it does have a huge benefit, though. the problem is that many people just don't really study socionics in depth, so you get these ridiculous typings based on V. I. and other nonsense. I think the scientific community will eventually be more interested in the theory, but it might still take a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    There are also a lot of SEI men in porn now that I think of it. Especially in porn geared more toward women. Passionate, sensual, usually nice, etc., usually focusing on his partner's pleasure.
    dude just a message ago you wrote that you don't watch porn and now you're making all these claims...

    I've also never said that SEI are not doing porn, I just mentioned that Se valuing types are more common. I don't enjoy this discussion, let's stop here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    or maybe you're just intepreting functions in a very wrong way tbh.
    LOL. You're so funny German guy.
    I've never seen you formulate an elaborate, independent, original thought in any of your posts. You just vomitate what descriptions say like a tape recorder, never doubting or questioning them, it's like you're a Socionics vending machine.
    I speak from experience. I spent a considerable amount of time asking people to type themselves, and a lot of them didn't resemble totally what written in their type descriptions, even though the function order was correct. You instead continue to look at descriptions like Moses at his tablets, like something immutable and eternally true.
    The entire Socionics is a theory, theories leave always something to be improved. Yes, the earth isn't flat.

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    lol @ thinking that male pornstar focus on their partner's pleasures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    LOL. You're so funny German guy.
    I've never seen you formulate an elaborate, independent, original thought in any of your posts. You just vomitate what descriptions say like a tape recorder, never doubting or questioning them, it's like you're a Socionics vending machine.
    I speak from experience. I spent a considerable amount of time asking people to type themselves, and a lot of them didn't resemble totally what written in their type descriptions, even though the function order was correct. You instead continue to look at descriptions like Moses at his tablets, like something immutable and eternally true.
    The entire Socionics is a theory, theories leave always something to be improved. Yes, the earth isn't flat.
    let's just ignore each other from now on then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    LOL. You're so funny German guy.
    I've never seen you formulate an elaborate, independent, original thought in any of your posts. You just vomitate what descriptions say like a tape recorder, never doubting or questioning them, it's like you're a Socionics vending machine.
    I speak from experience. I spent a considerable amount of time asking people to type themselves, and a lot of them didn't resemble totally what written in their type descriptions, even though the function order was correct. You instead continue to look at descriptions like Moses at his tablets, like something immutable and eternally true.
    The entire Socionics is a theory, theories leave always something to be improved. Yes, the earth isn't flat.
    If you make use of a theory, you have to make sure to actually follow that theory as well. You can expand on it if you like, but that will just be your interpretation, and depending on what your merits are, it may not be very valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    lol @ thinking that male pornstar focus on their partner's pleasures
    It depends on what you watch. The women's market particularly is somewhat different than the male "TIGHT VIRGIN PUSSY DESTROYED BY FAT XXX COCK".
    As soon as the land of any country has all become private property, the landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed, and demand a rent even for its natural produce.

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    Also, I like how everytime soundconfusion feels he can't win an argument, he always says he prefer to end the discussion.

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